NFL is problem not Pats

[Steve K]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/s...blame-the-nfl/

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Originally Posted by Steve K

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/s...blame-the-nfl/

This writer should be given a Pulitzer or perhaps a Presidential Medal of Freedom.

This is great...

Werder’s report leads to a dumbfounding possibility. If the NFL knew the Patriots operated with deflated footballs and waited until halftime to play “gotcha,” then the league willingly allowed – if not outright encouraged – the Patriots to gain a slim, illegal advantage for an entire half of the AFC Championship.

[Steve K]

An he is not even from NE.

Originally Posted by spence

This writer should be given a Pulitzer or perhaps a Presidential Medal of Freedom.

This is great...

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[Raven]

that's more like it....

[5/0]

I can't wait to hear what Iamdrippy has to add.
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[iamskippy]

Originally Posted by 5/0

I can't wait to hear what Iamdrippy has to add.
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I will be More than happy to add my 2 Cents, esp after the threats of violence i have received. It just motivates me more!

Keep em Coming.
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[Slipknot]

threats of violence? are you serious? wow, pretty sad if that is true


TDF, so that must have been the player who did not make it on the plane, it all makes sense now.

The NFL has done a fine job this year, Robert Kraft stood up for his commissioner and look what that got him. Goodell is a tool.


zimmy,

whatever you want to believe
does not matter anymore
the pats cheated, have always cheated, they will continue to cheat, they only draft players who cheat and felons and murderers and that lighthouse at the field, you know what that is? It's a big middle finger to the league!

I have just about reached the point of Embrace the Hate

[buckman]

Originally Posted by iamskippy

I will be More than happy to add my 2 Cents, esp after the threats of violence i have received. It just motivates me more!

Keep em Coming.
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Jesus ! Sorry to hear about that.
You're well on your way to becoming a martyr 😊
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[5/0]

Originally Posted by iamskippy

I will be More than happy to add my 2 Cents, esp after the threats of violence i have received. It just motivates me more!

Keep em Coming.
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Bring it drippy!
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[zimmy]

It's the NFL's fault? I thought it was Kensil's fault? I mean, the weather's fault. The NFL wants a scandal because the best way to detract from the other scandals is not to have a clean, football centered super bowl, but to drag out another scandal that makes the NFL look stupid? That is more of a reach than it is Kensil seeking revenge for... whatever it was he wanted revenge for.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by zimmy

It's the NFL's fault? I thought it was Kensil's fault? I mean, the weather's fault. The NFL wants a scandal because the best way to detract from the other scandals is not to have a clean, football centered super bowl, but to drag out another scandal that makes the NFL look stupid? That is more of a reach than it is Kensil seeking revenge for... whatever it was he wanted revenge for.

Are you a closet Jet's fan?
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[zimmy]

Originally Posted by buckman

Are you a closet Jet's fan?
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Ha. Good one. So looking at this from a non-biased viewpoint makes one a closet Jet fan? Every day there is a new post from a Pats fan with a new theory of what happened. The refs, the weather, a rogue attendant, Kensil, the NFL wants it. You don't have to be a Jets fan to be amused by the certainty that comes with each new postulation. What deserves just as must consideration is that the attendant dropped the air pressure at Brady's wishes. . I can see how that would be an unpopular scenario if I were a Pats fan. Most likely he takes the fall for it and the Pats live happily ever after.

[Slipknot]

Originally Posted by zimmy

It's the NFL's fault? I thought it was Kensil's fault? I mean, the weather's fault. The NFL wants a scandal because the best way to detract from the other scandals is not to have a clean, football centered super bowl, but to drag out another scandal that makes the NFL look stupid? That is more of a reach than it is Kensil seeking revenge for... whatever it was he wanted revenge for.

oh, and you forgot, they don't fumble the ball as much as other teams because they deflate the ball by 1 psi so they can get a better grip, that 1 centimeter grip make all the difference in the world when you have a decent running back and most of your plays are quick screen passes where they go to the ground fast. statistics don't lie. they cheated their way to the top for the past 14 years in a row.
I've heard it all this week, now I can go give myself a lobotomy

[Jackbass]

Originally Posted by zimmy

It's the NFL's fault? I thought it was Kensil's fault? I mean, the weather's fault. The NFL wants a scandal because the best way to detract from the other scandals is not to have a clean, football centered super bowl, but to drag out another scandal that makes the NFL look stupid? That is more of a reach than it is Kensil seeking revenge for... whatever it was he wanted revenge for.

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/inde...nfl_inves.html
Anyone heard about this scandal?
Probably even a bigger violation than taping side line signals.

But it's the Browns
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[Cool Beans]

it's simple business, the more people that "HATE" the Pats, the more people will watch the super bowl.... The NFL is using the WWE and the Jerry Springer technique to gin up more viewers.



And for full disclosure, to IamSkippy, apparently I used to be a Chiefs fan. I found an old picture of me wearing a KC shirt and sitting on the floor near the t.v. with my dad, watching their last Super Bowl win IV in 1970. In my defense, I was only 3 years old and my dad made me wear the Chiefs shirt........

[iamskippy]

Originally Posted by Cool Beans

it's simple business, the more people that "HATE" the Pats, the more people will watch the super bowl.... The NFL is using the WWE and the Jerry Springer technique to gin up more viewers.



And for full disclosure, to IamSkippy, apparently I used to be a Chiefs fan. I found an old picture of me wearing a KC shirt and sitting on the floor near the t.v. with my dad, watching their last Super Bowl win IV in 1970. In my defense, I was only 3 years old and my dad made me wear the Chiefs shirt........

I knew there was a solid reason i like you. KC welcomes you with open arms.
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Did everybody know that one of the colts players was arrested a day or two before the AFC championship game for rape.....you didn't? You mean you spent all that quality airtime (pun intended) discussing under inflated footballs....yeah the NFL would never try and deflect yet another black eye on the league by using a conspiracy theory
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Now that everyone knows slight ball deflation can bring a 14 year stretch of success you better believe everyone will be doing it.

[Raven]

putting on taller boots

[Raider Ronnie]

Wed the week of the game it's still a big topic.
NFL network just did a very good presentation of inflating a ball to 13 lbs psi then deflating to 10.5
13 lbs rock hard
10.5 soft.
Even Patriot Supporter Boomer Esiason thinks there was some cheating and the league will be handing out a steep penalty.
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[Slipknot]

Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie

Wed the week of the game it's still a big topic.
NFL network just did a very good presentation of inflating a ball to 13 lbs psi then deflating to 10.5
13 lbs rock hard
10.5 soft.
Even Patriot Supporter Boomer Esiason thinks there was some cheating and the league will be handing out a steep penalty.
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that is a 2-1/2 psi difference, 10 balls were 1 psi under
one was within the boundaries apparently, and the last was the one that the Colts had after interception which IMO cannot be trusted was mysteriously 2 psi under.

dog and pony show that it goes from hard to soft, well to be fair try it with the 1 psi difference.

Boomer said IF they prove tampering with the balls after the officials approved them, there would be stiff penalties.

I say if the balls were approved, then so be it. They did not and would not risk any chance of questioning their integrity after the scrutiny they have been under and the cloud that has hung over them by letting air out after officials approved them.
I think the refs did NOT measure all of them and the nfl needs a scapegoat. If they get fined for playing with under inflated balls, then fine the Packers also for turning in over inflated balls. Why weren't they investigated. Rodgers admits he turns them in over inflated and if they pass, good, if they let air out, so what.

The attendant theory that Brady had him do it is contrary to common sense, there is no risk/reward there, only risk of damaging the reputation. Didn't happen, will never happen. But speculators are going to accuse and life will go on.


Skippy, early on in the investigation, the Patriots turned in all video and stuff like that. The NFL has it.

there is this though

[iamskippy]

Just curious and not trying to rehash things but someone mentioned to me today aboit a video where the football's ended being taken to a mens room?


Has anyone seen this video or have a link to it. Just curious if that is a fact or another mythical event surrounding these allegations?
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[iamskippy]

Hahahhaa slip that is fantastic lol.
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[Piscator]

http://www.boston.com/sports/footbal...=Must_Reads_hp

Just saying boys.....just saying. Refs have some explaining to do....

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Originally Posted by Piscator

http://www.boston.com/sports/footbal...=Must_Reads_hp

Just saying boys.....just saying. Refs have some explaining to do....

If true it blows up the entire controversy and puts the spotlight right on the NFL leaks.

[Slipknot]

this blog is PISSA

If you are a football fan that feels as though the Patriots have hurt the integrity of your precious sport with the PSI of a game ball, or a member of the media who took to your laptops and the airwaves to editorialize your distrust of Bill Belichick and Tom Brady and Bob Kraft, then you should be mad right now; because the NFL played you like a fiddle.

They made a mockery of you. They dangled the bait in front of you and you snapped it up so quickly and with so much vigor that they haven’t even had to come out and speak to you and answer your questions; because you haven’t even asked them to.

And they knew that you wouldn’t.

They dared you to inundate an entire team of athletes and personnel with accusations based on your lingering distrust of Bill Belichick post-SpyGate; distrust that constantly leaves you calling for his resignation and/or the confiscation of his Super Bowl rings despite the fact that you have failed to exhibit the same vitriol for the also-highly-decorated Jimmy Johnson who admitted to doing the same exact thing.

You went on the radio and the internet and TV and indicted the Patriots based on nothing other than a couple of flimsy reports and an announcement of an investigation. You did that knowing that despite it being enough of a story that Belichick and Brady were at the podium talking to you about it, the NFL had inexplicably failed to even have a conversation with Brady yet. You did that knowing that this is the same exact league and Commissioner whose credibility you’d spent most of the season dismantling.

You wanted and needed so badly to believe that the Patriots couldn’t possibly be the dynasty that has reigned supreme over the last fourteen years that you gave the NFL the benefit of the doubt.

The league that tried to cover up their knowledge of a video of Ray Rice knocking his fiancé unconscious with a punch to the face, then had their Commissioner stand up in front of you and dare you to try to make him pay any consequences for it.

The league that, in the interest of financial gain, ignored and covered up the brutal health implications of playing for them until a beloved Hall of Fame linebacker killed himself and donated his brain to science in the hopes that it may save the lives of other players.

Why has it not also been shoved down your throats that they’re investigating the Browns for illegal use of electronic devices for sideline communication, or that the Chargers were fined in 2012 for cheating through illegal use of towels with a hidden substance? Where was the viral outrage when the Cowboys and Redskins were fined millions in cap dollars after being found guilty of purposely dumping salaries into the uncapped year in 2010?

Wait, you will love this one. Why didn’t the NFL deem it necessary to make quarterbacks and coaches speak to their accountability and respect for the integrity of the game when just TWO MONTHS AGO they caught the Vikings heating game balls on the sideline in a 12-degree game against the Panthers after they supposedly reminded both teams that it was illegal to do so? (Full credit and big thanks to Pats Krieg for compiling these.)

The NFL’s brilliant leaking of a “possible” Patriots scandal was enough to incite such a frenzy that you immediately repudiated the trustworthiness of Brady; one of the NFL’s pillars of sportsmanship and someone who has never previously been accused of being a cheater (or drug-user or rapist or animal endangerer or criminal of any kind). Not only did you question him but you attacked him. With nearly no provocation and armed with only a vague statement from an NFL spokesperson and unofficial reports from other sources, you labeled Brady a liar and a cheater.

After he told you that he didn’t do anything wrong and stood and answered your questions for 35 minutes, you came on television and arrogantly rattled on about “disappointment” in him; disappointment based on the inflation level of game balls that almost every single current and former player agrees is a non-issue. That consensus is further backed up by the lack of outrage when the aforementioned ball-tampering in Minnesota popped up in November of 2014.

Aaron Rodgers admitted that he hopes his purposely over-inflated balls sneak by the referees’ inspection, and you dismissed that as not cheating. Because you know that the pressure of the balls does not win you NFL games. You aren’t mad about deflation or inflation; you just want to hate the Patriots.

The problem is that if you do think that the Patriots benefit from ball pressure, then Rodgers just told you that he does too. You’re not going to start a war against Rodgers, so you make it about principle. It’s “the principle” of the matter.

Okay. That’s what they were figuring you would do.

So now we are nine days into this thing while fast approaching the Super Bowl, and the NFL has not even had to come out and actually call the Patriots cheaters. Nor have they addressed the issue directly to the media or the public. A spokesperson confirmed that there was an investigation. Then five days ago the NFL released a statement that took three paragraphs to say exactly what the spokesperson had confirmed: that they are investigating. The only notable addition was to note that the Patriots are cooperating fully with said investigation as well as a particularly preposterous paragraph in which they explain the reconnaissance mission in terms more suited for the script of an episode of CSI.

The fact that you so willingly fell into this trap is a testament to just how much power the NFL has over you. They handed you the narrative that they knew you wanted. They figured they could solve the “indignity” that the league had suffered at the hands of the mighty cheating Patriots by throwing the book at the "bad guys”. They’d even do it to Bob Kraft to show you how they don’t play favorites.

What better way to help solve an image issue than align yourself with the masses against a common enemy? Bravo to Goodell. He "cracked down" on cheating without further angering any of the NFL owners that already don't like him.

You bought it hook, line and sinker because you're under the delusion that your team is all clear eyes-full hearts and has somehow been victimized by this. It is one thing to buy into a perfectly timed PR stunt. It’s another thing entirely to fall into the ignorant space between conspiracy and reality that enables you to continuously denounce the NFL and its most successful franchise as cheaters and liars, yet still voraciously consume their product that they've pitted you against.

The only way that this league will change for the better is if you stop letting the NFL take you for such fools.

[Slipknot]

http://tanyarayfox.weebly.com/blog/h...th-deflategate

[Linesider82]

What if there was a fight between bill belichick and a hurricane who would win? ....
That's right, the GIANTS!
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[Raven]

i wanna know what the name is of that hater beotch reporter that asked Tom to apologize @ the press conference.

[1dozenraw]

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=12252086&ex_cid=espnfb