So it has started

[wdmso]

President Donald Trump has accused the media of dishonesty over the number of people attending his inauguration.

Mr Trump's press secretary said it had been "the largest audience to ever see an inauguration"

He said the new US administration would hold the media accountable.

Visiting the Central Intelligence Agency headquarters in Langley, Virginia, Trump said that one network had estimated a turnout of 250,000 at the National Mall.


WOW I see this the day I get back from Mexico With all the other "Carnage " He see in this US. he and his people are worried about crowd size ? Pictures dont lie ... and he complained to the CIA as well He is the POTUS no matter how many people showed or did not show to his Inauguration

He is nationalistic , Isolationist, narcissistic and has authoritarian tendencies .. you just dont know which one your going to get on a what day this just re enforces what I see and its only day 2

[Nebe]

Isn't fascism fun ? Get used to it. Mussolini is smiling from his grave.
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[PaulS]

You 2 better watch what you say.
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[scottw]

democrat rent-a-mobs are always larger...none of them have jobs

[Jim in CT]

It was an idiotic thing to say. What gain is there, to lying about something so stupid and unimportant?

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

It was an idiotic thing to say. What gain is there, to lying about something so stupid and unimportant?

What I like is that it points out how stupid and unimportant the so called news about the size of the crowds was in the first place.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by detbuch

What I like is that it points out how stupid and unimportant the so called news about the size of the crowds was in the first place.

Agreed 100%. But Trump needs to learn to let these things go, he doesn't need to respond to every stupid attack. He's going to get attacked without pause for the next 4 years, he needs to learn to let some things bounce off him.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Agreed 100%. But Trump needs to learn to let these things go, he doesn't need to respond to every stupid attack. He's going to get attacked without pause for the next 4 years, he needs to learn to let some things bounce off him.

Maybe Obama told him in his letter how to do just that.. Seeing he did it for 8 years

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Maybe Obama told him in his letter how to do just that.. Seeing he did it for 8 years

Now THAT is hysterical. Did Obama ever let anything bounce off him? He spent 8 years whining about Foxnews, criticizing Rush Limbaugh by name...

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

It was an idiotic thing to say. What gain is there, to lying about something so stupid and unimportant?

This is just the beginning of the show. Sit down and grab the popcorn.
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Nebe

This is just the beginning of the show. Sit down and grab the popcorn.
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The show started a long time ago.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Nebe

This is just the beginning of the show. Sit down and grab the popcorn.
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Well, with a phone call, Trump saved hundreds of Carrier jobs, jobs that Obama specifically said could not be saved, and for which Obama mocked Trump for suggesting he could save them.

Do you prefer a horse's azz who can get things done, or an eloquent buffoon?

If that's what we can look forward to for 4 years (adding jobs without adding trillions to the debt), then sign me up.

[Nebe]

Just wait till the bombs start flying.
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[Slipknot]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Just wait till the bombs start flying.
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I'm worried about you Nebe



We all know how Donald exaggerates, who cares
he has an ego, that is why he cares

[Raider Ronnie]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Just wait till the bombs start flying.
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Madonna ???
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[Nebe]

Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie

Madonna ???
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Mostly from the Raiders.
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[Jenn]

I saw it on the internet...it must be true!

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jenn

I saw it on the internet...it must be true!

Welcome : do you believe Trumps False Claims or Everyone else reports

http://www.politicususa.com/2017/01/...rowd-size.html

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...ion-crowd.html

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Agreed 100%. But Trump needs to learn to let these things go, he doesn't need to respond to every stupid attack. He's going to get attacked without pause for the next 4 years, he needs to learn to let some things bounce off him.

It's apparently not who he is. He's been doing this for over a year now. It got him the nomination. Then it got him the Presidency. It is, actually, very entertaining.

It exposes the social and political pimples, boils, and blisters in our "system." He's brought out the mad dogs howling at the gates--the women's march with all its ridiculous bombast; the eternally whorish Madonna; the idiotic Black Lives Matter; the self-important motion picture actors who think that because the public "believes" them when they mouth fictional scripts in movies that it will do the same when they mouth phony political talking points; the even more self-important press which has been exposed to be the biased tools which they denied being in the past; and the utterly uber-self-important politicians with their perpetually lying, hypocritical, phony selves accusing him of the foibles they have owned from time immemorial.

Even in this little irrelevant episode, when they pointed out that he was "lying" about the size of his crowd, it gave his spokespeople the opportunity to point out that in the same day one of the news agencies falsely accused him of removing the statue of MLK from some room in the white house, and another had just previously falsely stated that Rick Perry, his nominee for Energy Secretary, didn't know what that office was supposed to do.

It's going to go back and forth like this until the media is able to politically destroy him, or, if not, it will wound itself to the point that its credibility is worse than his.

As eben says, get out the popcorn.

But make no mistake, it's not just a circus performance for our enjoyment. It is the political battle to define "who we are" (as they like to say when Progressives try to paint us with their version) as a nation--a constitutional republic or a democracy; a sovereign nation or part of an overarching world order; a polity of free individuals or worker bees and dependents of the collective.

And, maybe, neither Trump nor the Press realizes that.

[wdmso]

The Bigger issue is his press secretary in no uncertain terms Told the press you cover the issues and stories we want you to cover or there will be consequences

then they double down with ‘Alternative facts’

I recall much outrage from the Right about how much Trash was left in 2009 4 million people attended the inauguration and how little the tea party 70,000 people who attended the rally a few weeks later

but they left out most trash cans had been removed for security reasons http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...012103900.html

The story was covered as was the crowd size in 2009 as it was 2017

No response from the Obama press secretary giving ‘Alternative facts’

But yet once again President Trump has used the office in an attempt to influence what News gets Covered .... and His supporters Love it... thats the Scariest part of all....

And I think they want to increase the press room to allow more "new's people " AKA internet supporters . so they can avoid answering real questions from those sources that wont carry their message ...

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by detbuch

It's apparently not who he is. He's been doing this for over a year now. It got him the nomination. Then it got him the Presidency. It is, actually, very entertaining.

It exposes the social and political pimples, boils, and blisters in our "system." He's brought out the mad dogs howling at the gates--the women's march with all its ridiculous bombast; the eternally whorish Madonna; the idiotic Black Lives Matter; the self-important motion picture actors who think that because the public "believes" them when they mouth fictional scripts in movies that it will do the same when they mouth phony political talking points; the even more self-important press which has been exposed to be the biased tools which they denied being in the past; and the utterly uber-self-important politicians with their perpetually lying, hypocritical, phony selves accusing him of the foibles they have owned from time immemorial.

Even in this little irrelevant episode, when they pointed out that he was "lying" about the size of his crowd, it gave his spokespeople the opportunity to point out that in the same day one of the news agencies falsely accused him of removing the statue of MLK from some room in the white house, and another had just previously falsely stated that Rick Perry, his nominee for Energy Secretary, didn't know what that office was supposed to do.

It's going to go back and forth like this until the media is able to politically destroy him, or, if not, it will wound itself to the point that its credibility is worse than his.

As eben says, get out the popcorn.

But make no mistake, it's not just a circus performance for our enjoyment. It is the political battle to define "who we are" (as they like to say when Progressives try to paint us with their version) as a nation--a constitutional republic or a democracy; a sovereign nation or part of an overarching world order; a polity of free individuals or worker bees and dependents of the collective.

And, maybe, neither Trump nor the Press realizes that.

I don't disagree with any of that, and maybe it's time for both sides to take the gloves off so to speak, and see who we are when the bell rings.

But I don't see how it helps his cause, to give his critics (and hell, his supporters) legitimate reasons to be embarrassed.

[Nebe]

In all honesty here... I read something yesterday from Tom Hanks and it struck a chord. "I hope he does so well that I will want to vote for him in 4 years". I will sit back and watch what unfolds.
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

I don't disagree with any of that, and maybe it's time for both sides to take the gloves off so to speak, and see who we are when the bell rings.

But I don't see how it helps his cause, to give his critics (and hell, his supporters) legitimate reasons to be embarrassed.

Trump is a perpetual fountain of embarrassment. He wears embarrassment on his sleeve. And his sleeves are like duck feathers, embarrassment just rolls off and he keeps moving forward. Trying to embarrass him is futile. It is almost an endearing quality. It's sort of like the kid who clumsily swings at bad pitches but keeps trying to hit them all the while being made fun of by the "better" players. You tend to root for the kid, not side with the meanies. Especially if you don't like the meanies to begin with.

Trump supporters didn't like the media long before he came along. The more it rags on him, the more they dislike it. His fight with the media, with the Washington establishment (including Republicans) may well be a plus for his cause, regardless of its embarrassing moments.

What more likely will hurt his cause is if he turns away from it. If he chooses to be "correct" rather than embarrassing, and becomes an acceptable politician who nicely fits in with our ruling crowd.

In terms of actually important stuff, he seems to be getting off to a quick and good start.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Trump is a perpetual fountain of embarrassment. He wears embarrassment on his sleeve. And his sleeves are like duck feathers, embarrassment just rolls off and he keeps moving forward. Trying to embarrass him is futile. It is almost an endearing quality. It's sort of like the kid who clumsily swings at bad pitches but keeps trying to hit them all the while being made fun of by the "better" players. You tend to root for the kid, not side with the meanies. Especially if you don't like the meanies to begin with.

Trump supporters didn't like the media long before he came along. The more it rags on him, the more they dislike it. His fight with the media, with the Washington establishment (including Republicans) may well be a plus for his cause, regardless of its embarrassing moments.

What more likely will hurt his cause is if he turns away from it. If he chooses to be "correct" rather than embarrassing, and becomes an acceptable politician who nicely fits in with our ruling crowd.

In terms of actually important stuff, he seems to be getting off to a quick and good start.

He is off to an amazing start in terms of jobs and stock market confidence.

As to the rest...he can fight the fights that need fighting, without being a crybaby, and without being overtly offensive.

I'd rather have an effective jerk than a nice guy who can't do anything right.

[Cool Beans]

And here's the crowd at Hillary's Inauguration LOL

[Sea Dangles]

Some hear only what they choose to hear. Then pretend to be well informed. Then they open their keyboard and provide proof of their ignorance.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Some hear only what they choose to hear. Then pretend to be well informed. Then they open their keyboard and provide proof of their ignorance.
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... what a surprise care to comment on the the topic or just another drive by our local Internet Troll ?

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by wdmso

... what a surprise care to comment on the the topic or just another drive by our local Internet Troll ?

Wayne, your contempt and hate have made discussions with you an exercise in futility. I will be satisfied with an occasional snipe,sorry if this displeases you. I know you like to dictate the boundaries but this is my way of contributing.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Wayne, your contempt and hate have made discussions with you an exercise in futility. I will be satisfied with an occasional snipe,sorry if this displeases you. I know you like to dictate the boundaries but this is my way of contributing.
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All you had to say is that you dont like a vision of the world that does not mirror your own... thats not contempt , as for discussions I have had none with you. I am sorry if you consider calling you out on your Snipes for what they .. as dictating the boundaries of the forum I guess we agree to disagree...

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by wdmso

as dictating the boundaries of the forum

There's Boundaries???? When the #&!$ did that happen???