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			11-21-2018, 03:30 PM
			
			
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				Bad Trillium Vibes
			 
			 
			
		
		
		Sounds like some of the employees have been posting bad things. Sad to hear if it is true. 
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-21-2018, 11:09 PM
			
			
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		 even The Globe is on it, sheeessshhh 
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-21-2018, 11:30 PM
			
			
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			11-22-2018, 11:37 PM
			
			
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		 BA postings are interesting, JC replied and the postings continued, sounds like PE $$$$ is an "issue" these days. 
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-23-2018, 01:48 PM
			
			
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		 Disappointing but not surprising. 
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			11-26-2018, 09:26 AM
			
			
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		 I think we are seeing the negative influence of Private Equity in this "space" more and more recently. Might focus on the small folks from here out. 
		
		
		
		
		
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			12-06-2018, 05:55 PM
			
			
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		 Good to see. Night Shift put them to shame and now they are catching up. 
		
		
		
		
		
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			12-07-2018, 06:48 PM
			
			
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				Good to see. Night Shift put them to shame and now they are catching up. 
			
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 Night has had some great beers out lately. Was fortunate enough to get my hands on some Craigerator. Only 5.0 ABV but had a bight like a solid DIPA.  
		
		
		
		
		
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			12-09-2018, 10:23 AM
			
			
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		 Question for the group while the subject is fresh. It never even occurred to me to tip the person cashing me out for cans until now. Am I alone here? If you POUR me a beer, yes, I tip but if your handing me cans? How is this even a thing? Or am I way off base here? You dont tip other retail people like when you go to a package store for a case of cans so why would you at a brewery? 
		
		
		
		
		
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			12-09-2018, 11:04 AM
			
			
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		 I never tipped people handing me cans, I look at it as just a retail store. 
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			12-09-2018, 11:16 AM
			
			
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				I never tipped people handing me cans, I look at it as just a retail store. 
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 You cheap bastahd!
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			12-09-2018, 10:41 PM
			
			
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				I never tipped people handing me cans, I look at it as just a retail store. 
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 Right? me too! Nebe not out of being cheap, trust me if anything I over tip bartenders, waitstaff, etc. but the retail staff? never crossed my mind until I read the Trillium staff story about pay and being tipped staff. I would never have guessed it was considered a tipped position because it shouldnt be! It really is no different!  
		
		
		
		
		
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			12-10-2018, 06:25 AM
			
			
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				Right? me too! Nebe not out of being cheap, trust me if anything I over tip bartenders, waitstaff, etc. but the retail staff? never crossed my mind until I read the Trillium staff story about pay and being tipped staff. I would never have guessed it was considered a tipped position because it shouldnt be! It really is no different! 
			
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 I'm the same way, I usually over tip as well. But tipping someone who is just grabbing you your cans isn't something I do. Has nothing to do with being cheap.
 
Do people tip the guy at the convenient store for giving you your smokes or scratch tickets? Pretty much the exact same thing. Go up to the counter ask for something and they hand it to you.  
		
		
		
		
		
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			12-11-2018, 12:30 PM
			
			
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		 I agree that you should not have to tip the people who get cans. They should be paid as retail/hourly employees in my opinion but I really don't know what other breweries are doing and what the standard is, so its hard to say if Trillium really did anything that wrong. Glad they stepped up to fix it, though I think they may have gone too far with the pay for what the job and market is (most retail jobs do not pay that much). Some of the complaints read as entitlement and sour grapes to me. There are lots of people working much tougher jobs for much less pay and no one is forcing anyone to work at a brewery. 
 
It always annoyed me that the tablet would pull up standard 15% and 20% tips for the retail employees. Like your expected to tip $20 for someone packaging up a case of beer? With the pay raises, I hope they swap out the system so it does not ask for tips for retail. Asking kind of makes it seem like its expected. 
		
		
		
		
		
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			12-15-2018, 08:32 PM
			
			
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		 Sounds like JC stepped up to the plate.  
 
ChrisG was at the restaurant recently and everyone he talked to was very happy with things there.  
 
Sounded like a disgruntled ex was the start of things, but they did need some fixin'. 
		
		
		
		
		
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