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11-19-2021, 01:16 PM
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obvious, obvious justice
let the riots begin.
justice triumphs over obvious, politically-motivated bloodlust.
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11-19-2021, 01:22 PM
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media reached a new low. too many lies perpetuated by the media to count.
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11-19-2021, 01:59 PM
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Happy aren’t you
Sadly he will no doubt now become a political pawn to a greater degree than before. He'll be an aide to Matt Gaetz and have a prime speaking slot at the RNC in 2024.
It's not healthy but we're not currently a healthy country.
Perhaps he is innocent under the law. And perhaps we've eliminated almost all real obstacles to an American Kristallnacht, legally of course.
In that vein, a Republican member of Congress has instructed his supporters to “be armed, be dangerous.”
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11-19-2021, 02:16 PM
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Happy aren’t you
Sadly he will no doubt now become a political pawn to a greater degree than before. He'll be an aide to Matt Gaetz and have a prime speaking slot at the RNC in 2024.
It's not healthy but we're not currently a healthy country.
Perhaps he is innocent under the law. And perhaps we've eliminated almost all real obstacles to an American Kristallnacht, legally of course.
In that vein, a Republican member of Congress has instructed his supporters to “be armed, be dangerous.”
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“perhaps he is innocent under the law.”
with that statement, you are clearly saying the jury did the exact right thing. because all that matters, s how it fits under the law, not according to who you hope wins the next election.
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11-19-2021, 02:40 PM
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It was a great victory for gun toting minors who like to strut around at riots.
I do think the national attention to this case will lead to more tragic shootings.
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11-19-2021, 02:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim in CT
“perhaps he is innocent under the law.”
with that statement, you are clearly saying the jury did the exact right thing. because all that matters, s how it fits under the law, not according to who you hope wins the next election.
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No, I’m not required to think the jury is correct, only respect it’s decision.
I wonder what a jury would have decided and what you would claim if Gaige Grosskreutz had shot in self defense the man who already had killed two people, shot at others and was pointing a weapon at him.
Would he be your hero?
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11-19-2021, 03:01 PM
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It was a great victory for gun toting minors who like to strut around at riots.
I do think the national attention to this case will lead to more tragic shootings.
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“like to shoot around”
so it’s just a random coincidence that the people he shot, were all involved in a confrontation with him?
he just shot people at random, right?
you don’t believe in self defense?
terrible post.
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11-19-2021, 03:02 PM
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It was a great victory for gun toting minors who like to strut around at riots.
I do think the national attention to this case will lead to more tragic shootings.
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and what will
media distortions and constant lies lead to?
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11-19-2021, 03:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete F.
I wonder what a jury would have decided and what you would claim if Gaige Grosskreutz had shot in self defense the man who already had killed two people, shot at others and was pointing a weapon at him.
Would he be your hero?
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you don't have to wonder pete, there is the example of the unarmed woman shot during the cell phone insurrection, I think we all blamed her for being there...if Kyle had threatened Grossk...and aimed a gun at him, Kyle would have deserved to be shot at and perhaps killed...that's not how it happened though, however much you'd like to think...Kyle hadn't shot anyone or even pointed a gun at anyone until he was attacked, and then attacked again and then threatened...by people that I believe all had violent/criminal histories... |
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11-19-2021, 03:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
It was a great victory for gun toting minors who like to strut around at riots.
I do think the national attention to this case will lead to more tragic shootings.
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bitter and dumb |
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11-19-2021, 04:19 PM
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you don't have to wonder pete, there is the example of the unarmed woman shot during the cell phone insurrection, I think we all blamed her for being there...if Kyle had threatened Grossk...and aimed a gun at him, Kyle would have deserved to be shot at and perhaps killed...that's not how it happened though, however much you'd like to think...Kyle hadn't shot anyone or even pointed a gun at anyone until he was attacked, and then attacked again and then threatened...by people that I believe all had violent/criminal histories...
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Pete likes to create fake scenarios that have no relation to the argument at hand. |
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11-19-2021, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
No, I’m not required to think the jury is correct, only respect it’s decision.
I wonder what a jury would have decided and what you would claim if Gaige Grosskreutz had shot in self defense the man who already had killed two people, shot at others and was pointing a weapon at him.
Would he be your hero?
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Lying through your teeth. Gaige testified that Kyle never had his gun pointed at Gaige, until Gaige pointed his gun at Kyle. This is precisely what Gaige testified in court, and precisely what photos showed. This was the turning point in the trial, when the prosecution was doomed. Gaige was a prosecution witness, who testified that he pointed a gun at kyle
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the next damn day, Gaige was MSNBc, saying that Kyle tried to
murder him. naturally the “journalist” an msnbc didn’t say “hold on, that’s not what you testified to yesterday. so we’re you lying then, or are you lying now”?
Pete, we know for a fact, that Gaige pointed his gun at Kyles head before Kyle shot him. What was Kyle supposed to do?
this was dumb, even for you.
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11-19-2021, 04:42 PM
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media reached a new low. too many lies perpetuated by the media to count.
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What did the media lie about? |
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11-19-2021, 04:42 PM
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Biden was asked if he stood by calling Kyle a white supremacist. As anyone could have predicted, Biden got angry and refused to answer.
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11-19-2021, 04:49 PM
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Biden was asked if he stood by calling Kyle a white supremacist. As anyone could have predicted, Biden got angry and refused to answer.
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I'd be willing to wager it was a staffer and he didn't even know what they were talking about.
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11-19-2021, 04:50 PM
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What did the media lie about?
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that he was a white supremacist.
that he was just shooting people, with no cause.
that he drive the gun across state lines.
that it had anything whatsoever, to do with race. for months, i assumed he shot black people, based on media reports.
that he only went to Kinosha looking for trouble ( his father lives there, he’s there all the time.)
then there’s someone at msnbc ordering a reporter to follow the jurors. that’s not stupid.
you’re slipping. even you aren’t usually this poorly informed. drinking out of pete’s commie glass?
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11-19-2021, 04:59 PM
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that he was a white supremacist.
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I think that was just social media responding to him in a bar flashing a white power sign.
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that he was just shooting people, with no cause.
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Never head this.
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that he drive the gun across state lines.
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I think that was just uninformed reporting, certainly not a lie. Not sure it's even material.
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that it had anything whatsoever, to do with race. for months, i assumed he shot black people, based on media reports.
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Never heard this.
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that he only went to Kinosha looking for trouble ( his father lives there, he’s there all the time.)
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Again, I don't think this is anything close to a lie. Until the trial I'm not sure anyone knew this.
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then there’s someone at msnbc ordering a reporter to follow the jurors. that’s not stupid.
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The guy was a freelancer working for MSNBC. If they really directed him to do that it would be stupid but also I've not seen any confirmation that's what actually happened. |
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11-19-2021, 05:46 PM
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I think that was just social media responding to him in a bar flashing a white power sign.
Never head this.
I think that was just uninformed reporting, certainly not a lie. Not sure it's even material.
Never heard this.
Again, I don't think this is anything close to a lie. Until the trial I'm not sure anyone knew this.
The guy was a freelancer working for MSNBC. If they really directed him to do that it would be stupid but also I've not seen any confirmation that's what actually happened.
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But when Trump said something that was uninformed, it was called a lie.
Try this:
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11-19-2021, 06:13 PM
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spence you asked about lying.
on man call right now, the graphic in the bottom of the screen says “killer at BLM rally acquitted for
killing two”.
the host said “the jury co-signed on vigilantes”.
“the judge did everything he could
to maintain white supremacism.”
“a white boy went out and terrorized people at a demonstration”- that was a colllege professor.
“it was a white supremacist assault on black life.”. - again the college professor.
i cannot believe i’m in the planet earth. imagine being a student in her class. jesus god.
“the law says that white relief is the important thing to take away from all
this.”
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11-19-2021, 07:17 PM
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Quote:
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Lying through your teeth. Gaige testified that Kyle never had his gun pointed at Gaige, until Gaige pointed his gun at Kyle. This is precisely what Gaige testified in court, and precisely what photos showed. This was the turning point in the trial, when the prosecution was doomed. Gaige was a prosecution witness, who testified that he pointed a gun at kyle
first.
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the next damn day, Gaige was MSNBc, saying that Kyle tried to
murder him. naturally the “journalist” an msnbc didn’t say “hold on, that’s not what you testified to yesterday. so we’re you lying then, or are you lying now”?
Pete, we know for a fact, that Gaige pointed his gun at Kyles head before Kyle shot him. What was Kyle supposed to do?
this was dumb, even for you.
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We know for a fact that Kyle had already killed two people and shot at others.
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11-19-2021, 07:33 PM
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Wasn’t OJ found not guilty
How many people accept that?
Just goes to show who ever shoots 1st and yells self defense wins.
The jury just allowed qualified immunity into civilian shootings
But. In the end not guilty is not guilty
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11-19-2021, 07:33 PM
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We know for a fact that Kyle had already killed two people and shot at others.
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right. which doesn’t mean, nor should it mean, he then had to let Gaige shoot him in the face. does it?
and the ones he killed? self defense.
another disaster for the left. an absolute disaster.
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11-19-2021, 07:36 PM
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you are sounding senile with the nonsense you are drooling.... |
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11-19-2021, 07:38 PM
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he's going to be living large on the lawsuits he's about to file and win or settle against a bunch of media members and organizations...
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11-19-2021, 07:43 PM
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We know for a fact that Kyle had already killed two people and shot at others.
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was there testimony that he shot at someone that wasn't threatening him?... we know for a fact that those he did shoot were shot in self defense...sorry pete...maybe you will obsess and cry over this one for longer that you've been hoping trump will be jailed  |
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11-19-2021, 07:59 PM
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joy reid: rittenhouse trial
was designed to protect white supremacists who kill.
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11-19-2021, 09:10 PM
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he's going to be living large on the lawsuits he's about to file and win or settle against a bunch of media members and organizations...
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Wait for the civil lawsuits. He has nothing against the media. |
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11-19-2021, 09:15 PM
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Wait for the civil lawsuits. He has nothing against the media.
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yeah the media all
just said “let’s wait for the facts to come in.”.
dershowitz saying he has a very strong case because they called him a white supremacist and that he illegally crossed state lines with. rifle. those are t opinions, they are verifiable facts, and guy can be sued for misstating those facts
msnbc and cnn were pathologically peddling verifiably false information. he’s going to make a fortune against cnn and msnbc.
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11-19-2021, 09:37 PM
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msnbc and cnn were pathologically peddling verifiably false information. he’s going to make a fortune against cnn and msnbc.
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What a joke. Be specific.
Besides Jim, an acquittal it a technical thing. It’s not an ethical win. |
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