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Old 08-30-2004, 12:05 AM   #1
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Unhappy Another Nautil mishap

Someone told me to put lock-tite in a couple of places...I guess I didn't listen -

Of course I found out on a fish - - - luckily it wasn't very big. Reel fun trying to bring her in with the bail not closing....I didn't want to tighten the screw and ruin my line as the line kept finding danger spots.


MikeCC - - you don't carry any spares, do you? Heading somewhere tomorrow ...in search of missing part.

Something you Nautil users may want to examine...this screw backed it's way right out.
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...it finally happened, there are no more secret spots
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Old 08-30-2004, 12:14 AM   #2
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Milo - - - 20 minutes after you left - fish on, BM Danny. . . . reel starts skipping..feels like the bail is opening, I look down...but in the darkness don't see the defect...and bail is NOT opening ...felt like a moron after I realized what was wrong. ... and being in wavy-waist-high water, forget about finding the $%@ thing!!! Had to stop fishing....I'm sure it got real HOT after I left. Good thing is, there was no one there to tell me that it did.

...it finally happened, there are no more secret spots
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Old 08-30-2004, 05:10 AM   #3
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wow that sucks,did they get any bigger?I told ya to load that peice up with grease ,cause if ya would of greased it ya would of tightened it..
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Old 08-30-2004, 05:16 AM   #4
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Sorry just ABU parts.

Try Bucko's

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Old 08-30-2004, 11:24 AM   #5
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Bloo besides this mishap would you recommend one? Also I have heard do not take apart yourself, you should send in for service is that true. After the warranty expires is it expensive to get them serviced?
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Old 08-30-2004, 12:18 PM   #6
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...rwilhelm...


FYI -

I had another issue with this reel....the Bail would NOT close. I normally close my bail manually - (meaning - I don't crank the handle until it closes) - and it was at a point where it almost felt like I was going to break it just to get it to close. I lubed up that area and haven't had problems since, .. . until last night. . ..

Overall - I'm pleased with the performance of the reel. I spend alot of time IN the water..(my reels get wet)...so for me, it was definately worth it. Should you get one? I guess that depends on how much time you spend in the surf. There are plenty of other reels availible that are just as good if you don't spend much time waist high A thorough cleaning will keep most reels up to par - but if you enjoy getting wet, I definately recommend one.


As far as servicing goes - I don't recommend taking the reel apart unless your a little mechanically inclined. I normally try to find the defective part and replace it myself. I live about 10 minutes from Buckos' - the leading repair shop in my area. He is always very helpful...doesn't get mad if you want to fix it yourself

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Old 08-30-2004, 12:41 PM   #7
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Thanks Bloo - I do spend most of my time in the surf and my reels get soaked. I have a slammer that I like but I am sick of always having to take apart because of sand and water getting in. I was thinking putting the slammer on a rod for rocks/breachways and get something more waterproof for the surf.
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Old 08-30-2004, 12:45 PM   #8
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Gilly,

Sorry to hear you had a problem with your Nautil.

I had some lesser failures on that model a while ago and decided then that it wouldn't hold up very long to the rigors of NE surfcasting. Honestly, I think a Penn 704z would have suited you better.
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Old 08-30-2004, 12:56 PM   #9
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I don't know about the rest of the guys but I fish about 100 nights a year IN the surf. I fish the rock bars in Southern RI where I am waist deep for hours at a time. I use primarily 704Zs and 706Zs. My 704Zs are converted to manual pickup (no bail). Other than breaking a dog spring once a year I have virtually no problems and I catch a lot of fish so the do get a workout. I do wash them off evry trip and clean the drag washers every couple of trips.
The Penns have been my workhorses for 25 years or more. I use Calcutta 400s for my conventional rods and they also have been great. Just my opinion.
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Old 08-30-2004, 01:07 PM   #10
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Piemma what size rod are you using? I have thought about getting a 704Z with a manual pickup or a 706Z but I have a 9' rod and I was thinking they will be too heavy for my setup.
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Old 08-30-2004, 01:10 PM   #11
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yeah, they would be too heavy. My rods are 10' Saber Graphite blanks wrapped by CMS. The 704Z/706Z work best on a 10' and up. I use a 5500 on my 9' as I have never been a fan of the 710 even though I have 2 of them. Hope that helps.
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Old 08-30-2004, 03:19 PM   #12
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Quote:
Originally posted by bloocrab
I live about 10 minutes from Buckos' - the leading repair shop in my area. He is always very helpful...doesn't get mad if you want to fix it yourself
Mike is great.A few years back I needed a reel repaired but he was completely backed up so he sold me the part I needed and showed me how to fix it.
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Old 08-30-2004, 04:33 PM   #13
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I can be a sucka for new equipment....sometimes it's a good thing,,, other times....

The Nautil is definately a good thing - I slapped it on a 1088 but to me, it's a bit heavy . . .... I had a Stradic 5000 on the '88 but the anti-reverse blew up fishing eels to large, hit my thumb so hard it's still numb... I know...but I'm stupid like that

Now is NOT the time to be playing with new or unproven equipment. Everyone has their work-horse - the one that hardly let's them down. If your trying a new reel, make SURE your work-horse is nearby....


As far as Mike Bucko Class "A" guy-
He won't tell you to buy his most expensive reel....he'll tell you which one's built better, which one spends less time in his shop and more time in your hands. He must have taken after his uncle Stanley....(the ol' timers may remember Stanley)....he used to give me Bazooka gums by the handful when we'd stop by for bait back in the early 80's...he's the one that convinced me to turn the bail by hand...I think he was just sick of giving me and dad free bail springs. He was my grandfather's neighbor over on Tecumseh - ...another GREAT MAN. Very helpful - I'm not sure what happened to that place now. I feel the service went a little down-hill on 2nd street....but Mike keeps his place up-to-par. He'll answer any question...and he WON'T be bias.

Kudos to Bucko's on Stafford Road -

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Old 08-30-2004, 06:32 PM   #14
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i am geting a penn slammer and it only weighs 20oz great for my 9ft 1-4oz rod i can throw a 3oz Kastmaster a country mile with 17lb mono with my okuma-23oz i gonna be even better with my new slammer its a penn so if it gets dunked it will still work

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I'd be carefull o' them peen slammers
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