Bellhorn & Millar - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

Bigcat · 07-09-2005, 03:31 PM

It is freakin painful to watch them.
They have to be the two most unproductive players at their postions in baseball?

Homerun04 · 07-09-2005, 03:35 PM

Agreed....and Renteria is no big help either....

The Dad Fisherman · 07-10-2005, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigcat

It is freakin painful to watch them.
They have to be the two most unproductive players at their postions in baseball?

Now this I'll agree with you on. Every time I see Bellhorn strike out I feel like driving my forehead through the wall

. I think its time to give Olerud some more time at 1st (If he would just put on a regular hat) and let Millar sit for awhile. Unfortunately we don't have any options w/ Bellhorn for a second baseman (unless maybe meuller at 2nd and Youkilis at 3rd).

Renteria, at least, is starting to show some signs of life. I thought they should have kept Cabrera also but if Renteria's bat can heat up a little more I'd be happy.

Squid kids Dad · 07-10-2005, 03:12 PM

Bellhorn has the 3rd most walks in baseball tho...So he does get on base even though he ^%$%^^ strikes out a lot

CAL · 07-10-2005, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Unfortunately we don't have any options w/ Bellhorn for a second baseman (unless maybe meuller at 2nd and Youkilis at 3rd).

I've been thinking the same thing since last year but Mueller said a few weeks ago he won't move over to 2nd. Not being much of a team player.

ProfessorM · 07-10-2005, 05:23 PM

Mueller has bad knees and says it will effect his performance. To me he is a great team player. Mets might be interested in Millar, they can have him. Every time Bellhorn takes a called third strike I shake my head, at least swing the bat. Paul

CAL · 07-10-2005, 05:57 PM

Well, when I said he wasn't a team player it was more in the way he said he wouldn't go to 2nd. He said he has always been at 3rd so "why should he" move over at this point in his career.

Squid kids Dad · 07-10-2005, 06:29 PM

Valentin said that also...Why should I move?? But he did

afterhours · 07-10-2005, 06:47 PM

pains me to watch bellhorn at the plate. all i hear is what a good eye he has, teddy b'game and boggs had good eyes i don't see any similarities. as far as millar- 18 extra base hits in over 80 games that says it all- see ya.

Bigcat · 07-10-2005, 06:54 PM

I heard Mullar say in a intervew don't expect much from me, I only make 3 million.
He may be a great clubhouse guy,but he brings very little to the table

afterhours · 07-10-2005, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigcat

I heard Mullar say in a intervew don't expect much from me, I only make 3 million.
He may be a great clubhouse guy,but he brings very little to the table

great attitude huh?

Squid kids Dad · 07-10-2005, 06:59 PM

Bigcat..Heard that also...Disappointed me...It seems like Damon is lining up every free agent the Sox have to go wherever he goes...

Bigcat · 07-10-2005, 07:05 PM

Damon is playing great ball,but at 32years old the sox wont sign him long term.
The farm system is loaded with talent,I think we will start seeing some of the kids very soon?

Squid kids Dad · 07-10-2005, 07:37 PM

Your right..Bring up the kids and see what they can do

Homerun04 · 07-11-2005, 08:46 AM

I think what we are witnessing is that in baseball it is ALMOST impossible to keep together a very talented team for very long. Since it is a player's run league, all they really care about is money. And that's okay, I suppose.

So the only way to keep together a talented team is to pay them all tons of money - which few franchises can do because of the luxury tax. That is why Steinbrenner does it, and look how competitive the Yankees have been over the years. He pays throw the nose for a competitive team. Then look at the Devil Rays.....and their payroll versus their track record of success.

Bottom line - if the Sox want to stay competitive for many years, they will have to start paying even more money. But I know that John Henry and Larry Lucchino understand that doing this doesn't make good business sense. In fact, owning a baseball team doens't really make good business sense. I wouldn't invest in one.

vineyardblues · 07-11-2005, 10:23 AM

My Daughter loves Mark B, I always call him serveral names and then he gets a hit ...lol

schoolie monster · 07-11-2005, 03:30 PM

Bellhorn is brutal, but Millar is killing them. Bellhorn bats 9th and is decent in the field. Millar is below average fielding and he STINKS at the plate and they bat him 5th/6th alot. That gives Manny no protection.

Alot of his hits are 2 out, bloop singles... thanks Kev. You just keep waiting for him to win them a game at some point with a big homerun, but he doesn't even seem to get a big single, let alone a homer. He's without a doubt, the biggest rally killer on the team.

Mueller plays really good defense at third and gets alot of clutch 2 out base hits. I wouldn't mess with him, he's a solid role player. If you want Eukalis to play, play him at first in a platoon with Olerud and spell Mueller once and again. Sit Millar's big, fat butt on the bench or send him packing.

Bellhorn... I wouldn't trade or sign anyone to replace him, but bringing up that kid Pedroya (sp?) to check him out wouldn't be a bad idea. I'm not sure if they have a roster spot for him, but he probably couldn't strike out as much.

Millar...for a supposed "clubhouse" guy, he whines when his spot is threatened even though his performance is absolutely awful. His act is tired and the fact that they have two guys that can do better on the bench is pretty frustrating.