Tuna From Shore - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

tattoobob · 10-12-2005, 05:03 PM

They have been getting tuna from shore on the outer beaches

and I was told that you can not keep it if caught. the tuna permit is for the vessel and not the angler so it must be released right away.
I thought if you had a boat you had to get a permit and if you caught a tuna from shore it was yours no permit.

Pete_G · 10-12-2005, 06:08 PM

I think the fish have to be 47" now anyways to keep if you're a recreational angler.

Also, as far as I know, being on shore isn't a valid excuse if you're caught with one. Boat only, and only if you have a permit.

Rappin Mikey · 10-12-2005, 07:08 PM

I heard it was a 25# bft from the horses mouth. The guy kept it too. Saw the steaks and everything. He was in the unit right next to me at the hotel I stayed at. 47" would be @ 50# I'm guessing. And yes, caught on a darter from shore. If I knew the regs I might have turned him in. Honestly though, I think I would have a hard time throwing one of those babies back myself. (I would though after a quick pic) It still would be hard.

tattoobob · 10-12-2005, 07:10 PM

I also heard that tins and metals were getting them.

You said unit ha haha ha

Rappin Mikey · 10-12-2005, 07:13 PM

I almost said back-side too.

Pt.JudeJoe · 10-12-2005, 08:52 PM

When I was at the Race last weekend ,there was talk of a tuna hookup each day ,although I never saw one .Everybody sure was yackin about it enough though so I guess it was true. Anyway on Saturday Ranger Rachel was drivin up and down the beach lookin' very hard ,they said she was lookin for the guy with the tuna.

Personally , I think she was looking for Habs so's she could get a needlefish plug.

tattoobob · 10-12-2005, 08:57 PM

I heard the same thing about the rangers.

Joe · 10-13-2005, 07:30 AM

Tuna from shore - sweet.
Permits?
We don't need no stinkin' permits.
Stuff that baby under your arm, run off the beach like OJ in a Hertz commercial and get some lemons on the way home..

Pete_G · 10-13-2005, 08:29 AM

Although the chance of getting caught is minimal (and fresh tuna steaks do taste incredible) getting caught could get real ugly.

Fines for possession are very steep. I can't find any numbers right now but I'm pretty sure it's thousands of $$, not hundreds. You can probably say goodbye to any fishing gear you have on you at that moment and if they were in a bad mood your beach buggy as well.

They take it very seriously.

MakoMike · 10-13-2005, 10:14 AM

I can't believe what some of you guys are saying, and then you have the nerve to bitch abut some guy from CT who wants to illegally sell a couple of hundred pounds of fish? Not only don't you have the required permit but its odds on that the fish is undersized as well, yet you think you have divine right to keep it. How are you different thn the guy selling fish without a license?

Rappin Mikey · 10-13-2005, 10:21 AM

Hey, I said I'd throw it back. I just said it would be hard, that's all. In fact, I think everyone else on this thread was talking about regulations. Accept Joe of course, but it was obvious to me he was just joking @. Lighten up a bit will ya??

MoroneSaxatilis · 10-13-2005, 10:24 AM

What if the tuna is in a can? Can I keep it?

likwid · 10-13-2005, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by MakoMike

How are you different thn the guy selling fish without a license?

You're not selling it.

Swimmer · 10-13-2005, 11:00 AM

MoroneSaxi????

Only if it was caught on a barbless circle hook.

Thom · 10-13-2005, 11:02 AM

The way I had it explained to me was you needed a permit and you only could fish for them from a boat. Like Pete said major fine if you get caught with one without a permit. ThomT

Joe · 10-13-2005, 01:11 PM

"I can't believe what some of you guys are saying, and then you have the nerve to bitch abut some guy from CT who wants to illegally sell a couple of hundred pounds of fish? Not only don't you have the required permit but its odds on that the fish is undersized as well, yet you think you have divine right to keep it. How are you different thn the guy selling fish without a license?"

How is a surfcaster who has the good fortune to catch a tuna from shore different from a guy who got caught selling two hundred pounds of poached bass?

Ya kiddin' right?

Well.....
Maybe because the surfcaster will probably get between 0-1 tuna in his lifetime from shore and the guy caught with a couple hundred pounds of poached bass has most likely made a part-time job of it long before he was caught?

I don't think I'm ever gonna catch a tuna from shore but I would not worry about the Rhody DEM Officers catching anything other than a few z's in their green machines until their pensions kick in.

Saltheart · 10-13-2005, 01:22 PM

Why would there be a law that allows you to catch a fish from a boat but not from shore? What difference does it make to the fishery if your feet are in a boat or on the dirt when you catch that fish??

tattoobob · 10-13-2005, 03:14 PM

I wonder if you threw it back minus the stakes would you get a fine.
If you can't land and keep a tuna from shore there is definitely something
wrong with that law, and why do only Boat guys get a chance to keep
them, are they special?

bart · 10-13-2005, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MakoMike

I can't believe what some of you guys are saying, and then you have the nerve to bitch abut some guy from CT who wants to illegally sell a couple of hundred pounds of fish? Not only don't you have the required permit but its odds on that the fish is undersized as well, yet you think you have divine right to keep it. How are you different thn the guy selling fish without a license?

The Iceman 6 · 10-13-2005, 03:33 PM

You gotta love the rainy days.....

JFigliuolo · 10-13-2005, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe

"...Rhody DEM Officers catching anything other than a few z's in their green machines until their pensions kick in.

I actually saw DEM officers at Watch Hill checking people for shorts (fish that is) It's the first time in 15 yrs I've seen them ANYWHERE other than fresh water. I'm sure that was it for the millenium.

Roger · 10-13-2005, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tattoobob

I wonder if you threw it back minus the stakes would you get a fine.
If you can't land and keep a tuna from shore there is definitely something
wrong with that law, and why do only Boat guys get a chance to keep
them, are they special?

FWIW, the permit is issued to the vessel. So if I have one for my boat and I hook one while fishing with you on your boat, I can't keep it. OTOH, if you fish with me on my boat, you are covered even though I bought the license. At least it works both ways.

Even if you could buy a license to fish them from shore, how many surfcasters would pay $22 in case they hook an sbft? I'm guessing not many.

I'm kinda surprised that Joe has no problem with poaching. He uses the same rationalization that googans use to keep short bass. "hey, if I'm lucky enough ... I'm gonna keep it"

SeaWolf · 10-14-2005, 08:21 AM

yes, as roger said, the permit is for your vessel only. not for the person. and, you are required to call in your catch as well within 24 hours. the feds do not screw around w/ tuna. also, you cannot even cast to tuna w/o the permit, never mind keep. tuna are one of the weathiest fish in our ocean and one with the most politics attached. ever wonder why there are many helicopters around occasionally when the tuna show up? or the coast guard and unmarked vessels are around looking for people illegally catching tuna?

on the subject of tunas from shore, how many anglers would be able to distinguish a bft from a yft or big eye? smaller species are very hard to tell apart from time to time.

RIROCKHOUND · 10-14-2005, 08:31 AM

If anyone gets a YFT or big-eye from shore then they must live with a 1000 horseshoes up their backside; I dont know of anyone who got YFT within 40 miles from the beahc and big-eyes from any closer than the edge or just up off the edge (close to 100 miles)

piemma · 10-14-2005, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Iceman 6

You gotta love the rainy days.....

...and it's only October. Wait til Winter.

Joe · 10-14-2005, 11:14 AM

I'm guilty of a "pre-crime" poaching tuna from shore.

MakoMike · 10-14-2005, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roger

I'm kinda surprised that Joe has no problem with poaching. He uses the same rationalization that googans use to keep short bass. "hey, if I'm lucky enough ... I'm gonna keep it"

That's exactly my point! Illegal is illegal regardless if its selling bass or illegally catching and keeping a tuna. How can you rail against anone else breaking the law when you condone breaking it in "certain" situations? Is it O.K, to keep 8 inch scup if you're going to live line them for bass? How about 6 inch Tog? I could go on and one, but I think you guys got the point.

spence · 10-14-2005, 12:36 PM

As was said above, I think Joe's post was a bit of a joke.

-spence

likwid · 10-14-2005, 01:50 PM

MakoMike: You need to start fighting back whenever people complain about plovers and dogfish then. If you're so adamant about regulation then start backing them all.

MakoMike · 10-14-2005, 03:04 PM

I complain about the plover and dogfish regs. But just because I don't like them doesn't mean I go out and break them.