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02-08-2006, 11:15 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Weymouth, MA
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Okuma vs. Daiwa?
I'm thinkin of picking up a new reel for the spring. Anyone have any experience with the Okuma epixor or the Daiwa Black Gold series? Would be for an 8 foot Tica rated for 1/2 to 2 oz. And I'd be loading it with powerpro. Don't want to spend more then $80 or so.
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02-08-2006, 11:28 AM
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Seldom Seen
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 10,543
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I have an Epixor, one of the high speed models. Was the replacement from Okuma after the Metaloid blew up on me while on a Cuttyhunk trip. (They claim the Metaloid series was not intended for salt water use....) It is smooth and has held up pretty well. Had it reconditioned by Okuma last winter at very reasonable cost. Has 9 or ten sealed BB. Just rinse religiously and make sure bail bearing is lubed regularly.
I want to hear about their VS series.....
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“Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms.” – James Madison.
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02-08-2006, 11:52 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Cumberland, RI
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BG hands down
MUCH tougher than the Okuma's. Nothing fancy. but they WORK.
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Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement -- Keith Benning
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02-08-2006, 11:55 AM
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Plug Builder in Training
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: wareham MA
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IMO the Daiwa reel will out last the Okuma hands down. The problem is the BG series is not going to be around much longer. It is outdated in it's design but still a work horse kinda like Penn.
nightfighter
The Okuma VS Sucks. Bigest piece of crap I have seen in years.There is a lot better reel out there for the money.
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02-08-2006, 11:59 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Cumberland, RI
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mikecc
The Okuma VS Sucks. Bigest piece of crap I have seen in years.There is a lot better reel out there for the money.
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Last year picked up an Okuma Axeon. Big, Heavy, POS... sent it back to the factory after something broke (I forget what). Told them It was a POS. I wanted to be upgraded to the VS. To there credit they did... But like mike says... it was also junk. It's in my basement. never used.
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Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement -- Keith Benning
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02-08-2006, 12:24 PM
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Canceled
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: vt
Posts: 13,425
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I'd try a shimano spheros
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02-08-2006, 05:43 PM
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Seldom Seen
Join Date: May 2001
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Thanks Mike. One more off the "what to get list".... I do like the weight of the Epixor, so am looking for a quality go-to reel in that weight range. Thinking Shimano, but need to test drive a real VS, just to screw me up while trying to put a dollar amount on what I need to spend. Not to hijack, but what range does the VS150 handle versus the 250?
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“Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms.” – James Madison.
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02-08-2006, 05:59 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Bristol, PA. U.S.A.
Posts: 130
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For less than $20 more.
Daiwa Whisker Tournament SS 2600.
Great plugging reel.
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GET OUT THERE,
and FISH!
Steve
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02-08-2006, 06:20 PM
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stripadan
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: wareham
Posts: 101
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I'd go with a Shimano Sedona 6000. It's in the same price range, comes with a spare spool, weighs about the same, and has an awesome drag. A 5000 would be a better size with braid, but not available in the Sedona (4000 has much smaller drag). For about $30more you could get a Spheros 5000 with metal frame, but no spare spool (an extra 25$ or so) or a 4500 Baitrunner if you need that feature. But again, no spare spool. The Sedona has 3 bb plus 1 anti-reverse bearing. Unless you are spending big money, I don't think you'll notice a difference between 3 and 9 bearings. Where are they going to put them all?
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02-08-2006, 06:28 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: RI
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The BG is a tried and true workhorse.
If you looking to go a little more modern bluefishercat's suggestion of a Spheros is a great one.I've put an 8000 through 3 full seasons.No problems.
Sedona just isn't on the same level as a Spheros.None of Shimano's reels with a sealed drag come with a spare spool.
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02-08-2006, 06:50 PM
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stripadan
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: wareham
Posts: 101
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I agree the Spheros is a MUCH better reel (especially with braid), but including spool it is about $60 more. I was suggesting something in the $80 range.
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02-08-2006, 07:00 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: RI
Posts: 5,704
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Spheros prices.
SP-3000FA 5.1:1 12.5 170/8 $79.00
SP-4000FA 5.1:1 12.7 200/10 $79.00
SP-5000FA 4.7:1 20.0 165/14 $96.00
SP-6000FA 4.7:1 20.5 170/16 $96.00
SP-8000FA 4.7:1 19.8 160/20 $100.00
SP-12000FA 4.6:1 28.4 265/20 $117.00
SP-14000FA 4.6:1 28.9 290/25 $123.00
Well worth paying a little extra for the spare spool than settling on a Sedona when it comes to buying a reel for saltwater.
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02-08-2006, 07:36 PM
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stripadan
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: wareham
Posts: 101
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Those are good prices, below msrp. Are they mail order or local?
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02-09-2006, 10:15 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Weymouth, MA
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Thanks guys. I'll let you know what I go with and how it works out. I was going to go with a Tica 8 footer but I'd be willing to listen to other suggestions. I'll be throwing 1/2 to 2 lb plugs, jigs and I want to keep the total package around 180 for rod and reel.
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02-09-2006, 04:40 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Cumberland, RI
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaywalker33
Thanks guys. I'll let you know what I go with and how it works out. I was going to go with a Tica 8 footer but I'd be willing to listen to other suggestions. I'll be throwing 1/2 to 2 lb plugs, jigs and I want to keep the total package around 180 for rod and reel.
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For 1/2 - 2 lb plugs... may I recommend a 2x4? 
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Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement -- Keith Benning
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02-09-2006, 04:41 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Weymouth, MA
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woops. I meant oz.
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02-10-2006, 03:05 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 66
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I agree with the spheros
Is the BG too old school for braid?
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02-10-2006, 03:52 PM
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Canceled
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: vt
Posts: 13,425
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaywalker33
Thanks guys. I'll let you know what I go with and how it works out. I was going to go with a Tica 8 footer but I'd be willing to listen to other suggestions. I'll be throwing 1/2 to 2 lb plugs, jigs and I want to keep the total package around 180 for rod and reel.
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I'd go with the spheros 6 or 8000 and one of the Daiwa sealine rods. The Daiwa's cast great regardless of price. I know my 10 footer is rated 3-6oz but will cast plugs well from B17s to 3oz. I suspect there other rods are also overrated for lure weight.
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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02-11-2006, 03:13 PM
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Rookie
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Falmouth
Posts: 111
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I used a B&G last year w/ 50 lb power pro. Paired it w/ an 8' Tica M/H. Good rig for short $. Had no issues w/ braid. Certainly not the Cadillac of outfits... but solid enough for me. No problems at all.

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02-13-2006, 09:46 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Quincy
Posts: 4,145
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Go to the MSBA EXPO in March, and see all the brands of rods and reels. You will get a great deal. SOme vendors here sell their wares at the show !!! Great deals and supports your local guys. Good Luck..

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02-13-2006, 11:37 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Weymouth, MA
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I plan on being at the MSBA show, went the past 2 years and loved it. Thanks all for the advice.
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