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06-19-2006, 09:01 PM
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Callinectes sapidus
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 6,277
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49" ...but only 17lbs. ??
I'll start off by saying, if it comes from the ocean, ...  I'LL EAT IT!!...
That being said, I caught a 49"...17lb fish the other night....
One would think, " huh?..that doesn't sound right".
It does if it was a sand shark/dogfish. .
Here's my question, has anyone ever tried eating it?
I was thinking I should have cut some fillets off the shoulder/side area. I mean...it's fish right? How bad can it taste??....
Anybody??.....Karl??....I know you've had seal  ....but hows about dogfish???...
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 ... it finally happened, there are no more secret spots
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06-19-2006, 09:10 PM
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West Siiiiiiiiide
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: San Francisco
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Actually had dogfish a couple times and enjoyed it. I find that it tastes like other shark meat... a lot more texture and a meatier flavor than normal white fish flesh. Apparently sometimes the uric acid can build up and give it an ammonia taste/smell, but this has never happened to me.
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Lookin for my big'un!
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06-19-2006, 09:10 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Fifth Ward
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I used to see boats off loading totes of dogfish in Chatham. Some one said they sold it as "fish 'n chips" in England 
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06-19-2006, 09:23 PM
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lobster = striper bait
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Location: Popes Island Performing Arts Center
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roseneath
I used to see boats off loading totes of dogfish in Chatham. Some one said they sold it as "fish 'n chips" in England 
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Thats correct.
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Ski Quicks Hole
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06-19-2006, 09:27 PM
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Super Moderator
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Location: Middleboro MA
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I could never eat anything that pisses thru it own skin
go ahead if you think it's edible
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The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.
1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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06-19-2006, 09:47 PM
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Registered User
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The future ain't what it used to be. --Yogi Berra
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06-19-2006, 10:42 PM
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That's a freaking huge dogfish.
Seriously, that may be the biggest one I've ever heard of - and unfortunately, I've caught hundreds of the miserable creatures.
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06-20-2006, 05:36 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 5,945
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Fish and Chips Fodder for the Limeys.
Never Eaten one, (that I know of,  )
altho, I've been told you don't want anything too close to the head...
for the aboce reasons...
Seals, taste like Plover.

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06-20-2006, 06:29 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 3,595
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Not sure you got a dog fish with out pic's ///
sounds a little 2 big !
Maybe a brown shark ? First off a brown shark is one of the best eating fish that you can catch from the beach. Right now alot of guys set up on east beaxh on the vineyard to catch them.
And they do grow very large and will hit anything from a eel to a metal lure.
I have ate them several times and to my surprise they are really a great tasting fish.
VB
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06-20-2006, 06:43 AM
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Location: Southern NH
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South Cape beach has brown sharks who like mackerel chunks late at night 
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Good health and family
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06-20-2006, 06:44 AM
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Callinectes sapidus
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 6,277
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It was definately a dogfish...I was into em' for a couple of hours, tide changed...bass showed up for about 1/2 hour, then the dogs came right back around again....... I agree....this was by far the biggest one I've ever encountered...you guys actually got me thinkin'....
I did a little research...
Dogfish "is a type of small shark that lives in the ocean. There are about 70 species of dogfish. Most measure less than 5 feet (1.5 meters) long. However, the largest dogfish, the Greenland shark, can reach a length of over 20 feet (6 meters)".
I guess I just happened to get a bigg'en...
It was a bit of a scare though...  ....standing waist-high in the surf in pea-soup fog...hearing the thrashing of the fish just ahead of me....thinking BASS!!....turning the head-lamp on to lip-em'....  .....then extending my rod and backing up real quick until I verified it was a dogfish and NOT some other toothy species of shark.
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 ... it finally happened, there are no more secret spots
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06-20-2006, 07:11 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2002
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49-inches would be big for a spiny dogfish but on the average size for a smooth dogfish. Both species are quite abundant in our waters.
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06-20-2006, 09:19 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
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I've caught dogfish/sand sharks up to 5 1/2 feet long, how do I know?, held from the tail it was at my eyes while the nose of the fish was at the ground and laid on my deck, it touched both gunwales and I have a 7' 10" beam. In the deeper rips and last summer north of Nantucket, we had a blast catching the things drifting whole snappers on 17lb test, most were over 40" long and fought better than bluefish or striped bass. I know, the elitists out there will snub their nose at anything but s-b but catching is catching and fun is fun.
From what I have learned, one needs to skin the fish right after catching so the fluids in the fish/what essentially is the anitfreeze for the fish does not leech back in to its flesh, that and gutting it right after catching. For the people I know that eat the things, they love it, the flesh is whiter than any other fish and the consistency after cooking is not unlike swordfish, after all, I've found sea robin, scup, squid and all the other stuff that bass/bluefish eat so . . .
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06-20-2006, 09:33 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Bethany CT
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Dogfish= McFish sandwich or as my grandfather calls them... McDonalds trout. I bet most of us have eaten them at one time or another. Something tells me they isn't bein skinned immediately for McD's. 
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06-20-2006, 09:49 AM
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Boston Anglah
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Sitting on top of the world with my legs hangin free
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I believe Macado's is pollack
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Used hard and put away dirty....
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06-20-2006, 09:57 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Corona Del Mar, CA
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I used to catch them commercially in gill nets. We didn't ice em' gut em' or do much of anything with them but throw them on the deck. Beware of the spines on their fins, if you get cut by them, they get infected quick. There were days when we were cod fishing that we would get a 10,000 lb bycatch of doggies and throw them all overboard.
If you get a pregnant one, squeeze her stomach and the pups are great bait for S-B... anyone ever use those? If you hang out by the fish pier when they are unloading, you'll hammer em with the pups.
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06-20-2006, 10:00 AM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Skitterpop
South Cape beach has brown sharks who like mackerel chunks late at night 
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Craigville beach at nite is another hotspot .
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"A beach is a place where a man can feel he's the only soul in the world that's real"
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06-20-2006, 04:52 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Kingston
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About all they harvest from dogfish are the fins(to japan for shark fin cartilage) and the belly flap(to the UK for F&C). The rest is fertilizer.
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06-21-2006, 10:25 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: stoughton, ma
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Bloo,
If you make a stew out if it, I'm in.(I'll even peel the potato's)
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06-21-2006, 11:46 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Southern NH
Posts: 3,781
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Professor Moriarty
Craigville beach at nite is another hotspot .
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Falmouth heights as well late night / early dark morning ,chunks, 65# braid to a 200 lb steel leader, 9/0 to 12/0 heavy bait hooks 
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Good health and family
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06-22-2006, 11:47 PM
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#21
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Callinectes sapidus
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 6,277
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Rick...
Maybe add some dogfish to an already decent tasting chowda ...eh?... 
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 ... it finally happened, there are no more secret spots
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06-23-2006, 05:39 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: MA/RI border
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I was chunking a new spot on the RI coast last night and once the sun went down it was dog 'o rama!
I must have found the kennel.
The area looked fishy. I picked up a short at dusk, minutes after getting there, but then it was pure dogs.
Im just getting back into the surf thing so Im always looking for advice.
What do the dogfish tell you...if anything.
Should I have moved away as fast as my legs could carry me?
(as much fun as crawling over bowling balls on a moonless night is)
Should I have adjusted my presentation?
Wait them out?
cut bait or cut wrists?
I think my pogies had been feeding on milkbones.
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" the fisherman taking a great cod line to which he fasteneth a peece of lobster and threwes it into the sea. The rockfish biting at it, he pulls her to him and knockes her on the head with a sticke."
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