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08-20-2007, 04:29 PM
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Soggy Bottom Boy
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Billerica, Ma.
Posts: 7,260
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Plug Prices
Is it just me or are wood plug prices just getting higher and higher
I would love to have some, But I can't spend that much on a piece
of painted wood.
What's your thoughts?
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Surfcasting Full Throttle
Don't judge me Monkey
Recreational Surfcaster 99.9% C&R
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08-20-2007, 04:49 PM
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Hydro Orientated Lures
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Brockton,Ma
Posts: 8,484
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welcome to the club Bob ... Vintage wood is out of my league for sometime now . I occaisionally score a beater ,(no box ,well used,missing paint,rusty hooks) to copy . People are very educated about vintage wood in corect boxes and special colors .
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Belcher Goonfoock (retired)
(dob 4-21-07)
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08-20-2007, 05:46 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: N.K.
Posts: 1,330
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Yep plugs are expensive and they are addictive once you dabble in them.They add up and take up space.When you loose one to a rock or a lobster pot your twice as pissed as you would be if you lost a cheapy.I fish rocks alot and the wood and paint takes a beating.Woods nice but sometimes plastic holds up better.Most I've spent on one is 25 bux I can't see any more than that.
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08-20-2007, 06:06 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: RI
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I think the new custom plugs are just getting closer to their true value. Additionally there seem to be a lot of builders out there who don't have to rely on it for a primary income, so they don't have to worry as much with competition.
But I think things will trend down a bit unless there's a change in the market. There's only so many plug consumers out there.
-spence
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08-20-2007, 06:31 PM
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Seldom Seen
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 10,543
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Much easier to pay up at the spring shows, when I'm jonseing to fish. Someone has it right in their signature; The next best thing to fishing is buying new gear. Can't do it at this time of year when I see I haven't even used 10% of what I have..... Heck, I could get by without adding another five years, and still not use them all. (But we all know that won't happen...)
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“Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms.” – James Madison.
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08-20-2007, 06:35 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: People's Republic
Posts: 1,025
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This topic has been beaten to death by now. There are still inexpensive wooden plugs out there like Bob Hahn's that are available. It is simply supply and demand.
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08-20-2007, 06:49 PM
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Moderator
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Marshfield, MA
Posts: 6,267
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think about it....
how many plugs do you really need???
and how many times can you use a plug???
ya cant change hooks on a chunk....or repaint an eel
in comparison...plugs (even expensive ones) are an economical way to fish....ya just dont need a miliion of em...or every new one
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Live at Leeds
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08-20-2007, 06:56 PM
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Moderator
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Marshfield, MA
Posts: 6,267
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ya think plugs are expensive?? did you get a look at that Jap beef over there in Scuppers?? 
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Live at Leeds
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08-20-2007, 07:16 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: To close to water for my insanity
Posts: 884
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You think surf plugs are expensive look at what Cali and the rest of the world is getting for almost the same plug for fresh water. Now thats expensive. When you start to dish out $300 for a largemouth plug somethings wrong...okay I have a problem
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offthehookfishing.com
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08-20-2007, 07:25 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: RI
Posts: 5,704
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That's why I buy Salty's stuff.Price is right anytime and when Scott throws out the deals...he throws out the deals.
His sh!t works.
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08-20-2007, 07:35 PM
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Night Stalker
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: ............
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:-) happy thoughts :-)
Last edited by luds; 08-20-2007 at 07:55 PM..
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08-20-2007, 07:43 PM
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My brother is bald
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Parts Unknown
Posts: 4,516
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The way I've been thinking about it is, every plug I've ever had is gone accept the ones I have right now. Not really brain surgery but mind boggeling when you really cotemplate it.
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seals + plovers =
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08-20-2007, 08:04 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: N.K.
Posts: 1,330
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Shipping sucks bad... but the damn things can't fly so we have no choice.I love my plugs.Sometimes I just hold them and show them to wife and kids.I feel like they are members of my immediate family because I'd like to spend more time with them than the rest.
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08-20-2007, 08:08 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: New Haven Ct
Posts: 957
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do like I do buy plugs but fish eels that way the plugs last longer. 
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08-20-2007, 08:11 PM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Middleboro MA
Posts: 17,125
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Plug prices are determined by lots of factors. One is by what people are willing to pay for them, that's why the 300 dollar largemouth plugs that folks thing they have a chance at a world record with for instance. Other guys just want to ask a fair price, others it's determined by supply and demand.
The most I've paid for a plug I fished was $35.00 and I still fish it when I feel like it.
Lex lures are a very good value, they catch fish too, I don't know how Scottie can make any profit.Simple plug that works and is affordable at less than 10 bucks.
I have a priceless plug that I have fished and most guys think I'm nuts to fish such a work of art but I feel it is a testament to the builder of the plug since that is what it's intended for.
even caught a nice fish on it on the second cast with it back in May.
RM Smith makes artwork as fishing lures
I don't think half the fishemen out there that use plugs have any idea how much work goes into making a plug that looks good,lasts or holds up a reasonable amount of time, that entices fish to strike and cats well enough to be used and be put in the rotation of your plugbag.
I love wood and appreciate it. Guys like habs and beachmaster are real craftsmen as their popularity and demand show, I love their plugs also. There is room for everybody.
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It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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08-20-2007, 08:17 PM
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Night Stalker
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Wow. Awsome post Slip. Thanks.
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08-20-2007, 08:18 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Southern NH
Posts: 3,781
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Bruce is the pic at bottom and one in the nice bassies mouth Ryan`s work?
Thanks....nice pic and nice bass 
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Good health and family
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08-20-2007, 08:28 PM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Middleboro MA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Skitterpop
Bruce is the pic at bottom and one in the nice bassies mouth Ryan`s work?
Thanks....nice pic and nice bass 
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yes
that is Ryan's work in both pics
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The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.
1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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08-20-2007, 08:35 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Southern NH
Posts: 3,781
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slipknot
yes
that is Ryan's work in both pics
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Wow Those are wonderful!
plug prices: Look at all the flipping on new BMs.... double the retail days after bought .
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Good health and family
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08-20-2007, 08:44 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 61° 30′ 0″ N, 23° 46′ 0″ E
Posts: 8,158
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One of the best Canal fishermen I know brags about only owning one plug 
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Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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08-20-2007, 08:48 PM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Middleboro MA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike P
One of the best Canal fishermen I know brags about only owning one plug 
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that would be the future legend Jim 
Yep, he carries ONE plug, a pencil in his jigbag just in case 
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The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.
1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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08-20-2007, 08:58 PM
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Plug Paladin
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Jackson, N.J.
Posts: 1,132
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We as fisherman get caught up in the fear of not having the magic lure
when thats all the fish want. So we start to collect huge amounts of tackle. Like someone said in this thread you only need a couple of plugs.
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08-20-2007, 08:59 PM
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Callinectes sapidus
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 6,277
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When it comes to custom wood - yeah, I think the prices can get up there....and I feel that way mainly because you can't control how long you're going to own the plug ,,, (break-offs/snagged on a rock/bluefish-bitten/"HO'-ed" ,,, It's one thing if you pay a lot of money for it and you really take great care of it, wash it, wax it, re-hook it, BUT ...when you decide to fish it, any and every time you do....you're gambling on the chance of losing it. That's when it becomes expensive in my mind. I've never been a collector, I buy things to use them, so for that simple fact, yes...I find them expensive (especially when I can do GREAT with a $5 Creek Chub  ) . The only plugs you'd see in a case at my house would be plugs that I caught memorable fish on etc// and decided to retire them for a particular personal reason, custom wood, plastice, rubber...a BARE HOOK if it means something to me....
Don't get me wrong, I give the custom guys a lot of credit. They make GREAT stuff. I've held some of Mr. Pogy's stuff and let me tell ya, the finish on his plugs scare me to even touch them, let alone fish them. Those plugs and many more of the top builders on this site are definately WORTH THE MONEY, just not always my money ( because I use and could lose them). I own plenty of custom stuff and will contine to buy them, just not in the volumes that "collectors" do. I think when you "collect" something, it becomes a hobby. Fishing isn't a hobby for me, it's a PASSION. I couldn't put a price on fishing. Guys talk about gas prices holding them back, bait being too expensive, gear prices outrageous/what have you,,, .....There's no shame in using your old Abu Garcia rod, a $5 dollar plug with a wire-leader for security and having a great time. If you really know what you're doing, you already know you don't need TOP $$ equipment to catch fish. Of course it helps...(ALOT)...but ask Roy about snoopy rods or scoobe doo, and they'res your pudding.
People afford what they want to afford (whether they can or not is a different question), that's the American way.
Sorry bob, long winded point of view....SHOOT ME
Do I think they're just "a piece of painted wood" ??? HELL NO, they ARE WORKS OF ART,,, but like Picasso's,,, I can't always afford them, but I wouldn't discredit it because I couldn't afford it. As a struggling artist wanna-be....I have much respect for ART work, and that's what a lot of our builders create.  . . .ok, I'll shut up now.
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 ... it finally happened, there are no more secret spots
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08-20-2007, 09:45 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Easton, MA
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The guys who have labored at making their own plugs can understand why the custom wood plugs are so expensive. It's labor intensive and takes a real skill to make a plug that swims right and catches fish. I've made my own and figured that I spent enough on one to buy several made by the real craftsmen on this site. You really can appreciate what these guys are doing. I will spend good money on plugs that really catch my eye, but I also use knockoffs that cost $6 to $8 that catch just as well (usually after having a $20 plug cut off by a blue). The lure is important, but the person using it has to know what they are doing if they are going to catch fish.
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08-21-2007, 12:39 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: newport
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The cost of materials is way up. Like others have said ,and I have seen first hand, a lot goes into making custom wood plugs. The $ per hour by the time it is finished is very small ,but they do it because they love their work and it shows in the finished product.But the truth is.....you should all be throwing METAL! 
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08-21-2007, 05:24 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Newport, RI
Posts: 2,316
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There's always Super Strike. As good as they ever were...
Although those have gone up too. Considering where plastic comes from you can't be too surprised I guess.
Barring lobster pots and other random tragedies I really rarely lose a plug, so I'm fairly fearless when it comes to throwing wood. My only requirement is that the plug will tolerate years of service. I'll pay if it works and it lasts.
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08-21-2007, 05:50 AM
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Respect your elvers
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: franklin ma
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Striperknight
We as fisherman get caught up in the fear of not having the magic lure
when thats all the fish want. So we start to collect huge amounts of tackle. Like someone said in this thread you only need a couple of plugs.
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I just put a couple hundred of mine up for sale for that very reason.
I kept a few Hab's needles and a bunch of old F-80 rebels.You don't really need any more than that to catch fish, save for some jigs.
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08-21-2007, 06:07 AM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: over the hill
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike P
One of the best Canal fishermen I know brags about only owning one plug 
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LOL. Plugs add another and a significant level of difficulty to fishing. Specializing in one spot or one technique is hardly an indication of overall skill as a fisherman. Nice that he catches fish and can brag about it, though. Got me beat.
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08-21-2007, 06:14 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Long Beach
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However
I believe plug prices reflect workmanship and quality. For instance the plugs below go for only $15 as alot of other retailers are selling plugs very similar to them for $23 you really have to see them up close this is one of the only plugs that you could by for reasonable and affordable price and people have never heard of them. It is unfourtinate but raw materials are going up like paint, wood, wire, lead, and metal welcome to inflation it sucks but it affects the builders more than you think. How much money do you think th builders are making from building plugs after labor and costs of materials. I can honestly say not much its more of a hobbie for most of the guys.
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08-21-2007, 06:52 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Mass
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Mac's Plugs
I remember going into the local Penny Candy store when I was a kid...you walk in and don't now were to to start...you only have a Quarter to spend but you want to try one of each  it reminds me of the day Rick Hern introduced me to Mac a few years ago.
I walked into Mac's work Shop in his back yard ...O'MY GOD...it was like being in that candy store...Only had $25 bucks...But I wanted to try out each Plug...WE MISS YOU MAC !
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