US VS vs Chinese VS - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

cheferson · 01-06-2009, 08:46 AM

WHat are the differences between a us made van staal and a chinese made model??? Ive heard the handle is fixed and that the anodizing is better in the chinese version. Anyone had any negative experiences with the chinese made models???

Raven · 01-06-2009, 08:53 AM

Crafty Angler · 01-06-2009, 09:06 AM

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Raven · 01-06-2009, 09:32 AM

uhuh

Crafty in a blizzard lol

cheferson · 01-06-2009, 09:45 AM

Raven · 01-06-2009, 09:56 AM

lead in the paint job i'd wager

steve · 01-06-2009, 10:13 AM

Chef, I just bought the last American made VS(200) we had in the store. It is the gold model which I'm not crazy about but the price was right as well as it's origin(USA). It is different than the overseas model in that the GOLD color is duller than the other version. It also has the old stlye handle. Everything else seems the same!

Crafty Angler · 01-06-2009, 10:20 AM

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uhuh

Crafty in a blizzard lol

Actually, Rav I was supposed to do some plug testing in a sheltered cove tomorrow - given the forecast, that might be pretty accurate...

Nebe · 01-06-2009, 10:32 AM

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Chef, I just bought the last American made VS(200) we had in the store. It is the gold model which I'm not crazy about but the price was right as well as it's origin(USA). It is different than the overseas model in that the GOLD color is duller than the other version. It also has the old stlye handle. Everything else seems the same!

Gold is perfect for fishing the federal hill headwaters.

cheferson · 01-06-2009, 10:44 AM

Did anyone use a china Vs this season?

luds · 01-06-2009, 11:09 AM

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GattaFish · 01-06-2009, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by cheferson

Did anyone use a china Vs this season?

I did,,, it was a VS250,,,, no problems,,,,

I did have an issue with my American VS200 made with chinese parts .....

rwilhelm · 01-06-2009, 11:41 AM

With the prices they charge you figure they would have kept production here! What is their profit margin now 500%! It is really scary if a company like Van Stall goes to China. The manufacturing sector is in trouble and it will continue to get worse!

Sorry for the rant but this really pisses me off!

steve · 01-06-2009, 11:46 AM

Nebe, I'll wear my mink surf top and Gucci waders when I use it!

saltfly · 01-06-2009, 12:05 PM

QUOTE=rwilhelm;652047]With the prices they charge you figure they would have kept production here! What is their profit margin now 500%! It is really scary if a company like Van Stall goes to China. The manufacturing sector is in trouble and it will continue to get worse!

Sorry for the rant but this really pisses me off![/QUOTE]

shadow · 01-06-2009, 12:30 PM

truthfully I am surprised it took this long,figured the parts have been being made there for awhile now,it is to bad they wouldn't keep them in the u.s. hopefully the quality won't change.

ivanputski · 01-06-2009, 10:19 PM

I have a chinese VS, but its the only one ive ever owned, so i have nothing to compare it to... no problems... is it really such a shock they are now made in china though? its no secret that the usa only exports 2 things... jobs, and empty shipping containers bound for china...

Rocco34520 · 01-06-2009, 10:33 PM

My first VS will be a China made one. So i hope theres no problems with them.

Gunpowder · 01-07-2009, 11:27 AM

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My first VS will be a China made one. So i hope theres no problems with them.

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yah same for me... still trying to save

Adam_777 · 01-07-2009, 04:50 PM

The holes in the spool intead of being round are more like little slits and are slanted slightly .......The drag knob is made of weaved straw.The lube is mashed rice meal.This is what I've heard from a local source .I have the USA VS250.Leaking out of the box really nothing to be proud of.

Rocco34520 · 01-07-2009, 05:12 PM

My friend said that SWE tested the china made VS this year and found no issues with them. Good news for me! Id rather support the US economy but i just cant spare the $700 right now.

PurpelNoon · 01-08-2009, 07:09 AM

I always felt that being American made was the sole support for it costing what it does. But to still cost that mcuh and be made in China is insane.
I have a 250 which is about 3 years old and when serviced the last year(Chinese parts) it is the only time I can say the reel isn't performing the same as it did). Anyhow, now that they are made in China, I would no way pay the asking price on another one.

cheferson · 01-08-2009, 09:08 AM

Anyone know when parts started being manufactured in china? What serial number on the reel starts the made in china VS???

Raven · 01-08-2009, 09:15 AM

not that i can afford a VS reel but after reading this post

and hearing about the reduced quality from the manufacturing going over to china i'll never buy one...

i've read where certain components were found to be radio active in other products because they just melt down everything all together...

customs made them ship them all back to China...

cheferson · 01-08-2009, 09:19 AM

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I have a 250 which is about 3 years old and when serviced the last year(Chinese parts) it is the only time I can say the reel isn't performing the same as it did).

How do you know the parts they replaced were made in china?? WHat difference in performance have you noticed?

ivanputski · 01-08-2009, 04:21 PM

the easiest way to spot a chinese made VS is the handle/arm... the USA made reels have a little star-shaped knob on the corner so you can unscrew the handle... the chinese reels dont have it at all... just a flush hex-head screw... if im not mistaken...)

ivanputski · 01-08-2009, 04:26 PM

Pete_G · 01-08-2009, 04:34 PM

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Many reels that have the "new" fixed reel handle are U.S. reels.

It's by no means a reliable way to ID a reel. There was actually a very long overlap where there were both star knobs and fixed handles. It started being seen on the bailed reels and VS275 long before "Made in China" had even hit the Internet rumor mill.

ivanputski · 01-08-2009, 04:56 PM

I stand corrected... I should have said that I have never seen a star handled chineses model... anyways, the chinese ones say "made in china" on them (reel seat) mine does. I'm no authority, thats why I always throw in a disclaimer...

Pete_G · 01-08-2009, 05:26 PM

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I stand corrected... I should have said that I have never seen a star handled chineses model... anyways, the chinese ones say "made in china" on them (reel seat) mine does. I'm no authority, thats why I always throw in a disclaimer...

No one knows the truth or has all the facts these days. There's so much misinformation drifting around I rarely bother to correct it in the event I know the truth; it would be a 24 hour a day job. That's assuming what I've been told is completely the truth.

It's like the rumor that Chinese parts were being used in US reels before the move to China. I don't know if it's true. I've never asked. But I bet if you really questioned those who "know" that US reels had Chinese parts they'd struggle to prove it. They could be right. Or not. I don't think it matters enough to warrant a 6 page pissing match every single week on SOL, that's for sure. The reels are the same as they ever were. If you don't like the price, don't buy them, if you can't accept a foreign made reel, don't buy them. I just don't understand the excitement.

But the reel handle facts above I'm sure of. I've never seen a Chinese stamped reel with a star knob but I have seen plenty of reels not stamped "Made in China" with the fixed handle.