Daiwa Saltiga Surf - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

Jackbass · 11-16-2012, 12:57 PM

Any input on this reel thinking of putting one on my new 11 fter?

iamskippy · 11-16-2012, 01:54 PM

Jack, i own one of the original 4500H not the surf, but i have a few friends who have, and i have not heard anything good about them, but that is just what i have heard and not from experience.
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Jackbass · 11-16-2012, 02:50 PM

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Jack, i own one of the original 4500H not the surf, but i have a few friends who have, and i have not heard anything good about them, but that is just what i have heard and not from experience.
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Exactly the kind of feedback I am looking for. I want the long cast spool. But I am weary if spending 500 on a reel that I am not positive about. I am not willing to spend 1300 on the dog fight? I would rather buy another Zee
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PRBuzz · 11-16-2012, 03:11 PM

My 6500H blew up! Needed to replace 3 of the gears. Happened to be fighting big blue dawgs....not shore fishing.

iamskippy · 11-16-2012, 03:25 PM

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My 6500H blew up! Needed to replace 3 of the gears. Happened to be fighting big blue dawgs....not shore fishing.

Phil wasnt that a saltist 6500 not a saltiga surf?
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iamskippy · 11-16-2012, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Jackbass

Exactly the kind of feedback I am looking for. I want the long cast spool. But I am weary if spending 500 on a reel that I am not positive about. I am not willing to spend 1300 on the dog fight? I would rather buy another Zee
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Maybe wait to see what shimano comes out with this year? Rumor is they will have a long cast spool designed for the surf, but that is a rumor

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PRBuzz · 11-16-2012, 03:28 PM

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Phil wasnt that a saltist 6500 not a saltiga surf?
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yup your right!

Jackbass · 11-16-2012, 03:34 PM

The only problem is I want to build the rod to the reel. There maybe Locations where I want fish a different reel on it. But for primary usage I want to set the rod up for the reel.
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iamskippy · 11-16-2012, 03:53 PM

I went threw that jack, i cant tell you the amount of money i spent on rods and reels till i landed on what i have today. You are wise to wait for a primary reel.
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Jackbass · 11-16-2012, 04:03 PM

Is it worth it to wait for the shimano?
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iamskippy · 11-16-2012, 04:18 PM

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Is it worth it to wait for the shimano?
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I am a big shimano fan, and i am hoping they deliver on this promiss, they make the reels over seas now but you cant get the repaired here but when i was looking to aquire one of the overseas models i was strongly urged to wait. That have already began adapting the technology on other reels as far as the spool design, but the price maybe step when i comes out , i know i am excited to see it.
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FinS 32 · 11-16-2012, 04:20 PM

the saltiga surf is the biggest waste of $400 i ever spent. ive had it since it came out, sent it in 5 times, not to get serviced but to get fixed. and i only used it maybe 10-15 times a year This past time, they had to replace the main gear, pinion gear and body. cost a little over $100. used it once at a jetty it seized up, and i rinsed it out after that one time. when it works its awesome, but getting it to work is a rarity.

penn has said they are gonna release a long cast model of the new SSV. that would be pretty awesome.
Mark, if you want one now, i still prefer the older emblem pro, to most out there now, and i do like the shimano albrid, which you can get on ebay

Mike P · 11-16-2012, 05:40 PM

Overpriced junk. Run of the mill reel capitalizing on the Saltiga name. It has absolutely nothing in common with the "real" Saltigas. You're better off buying an Emblem Pro A for a third of the price.

It's also too slow to use for anything but swimmers and eels.

new jack · 11-16-2012, 06:28 PM

I believe the new shimanos are due to debut at ICAST 2013 which means they may not available for sale for quite awhile. I have also been told that there will a couple of different price points in the long cast design.
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iamskippy · 11-16-2012, 07:07 PM

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and i do like the shimano albrid, which you can get on ebay

Fin, isnt the albrid a shaft style handle not a single side screw on(i forget the exact terminology)
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trevier · 11-16-2012, 07:18 PM

the long spool shimano won't be available till around september, supposedly a re-designed stella with a long cast spool, the albrid are great reels, super light and super smooth, the new stella is going to be around 900, buy a old stella off of ebay for around 700 shipped, 8k size,

Jackbass · 11-16-2012, 07:29 PM

If I were to spend that kind of money right now it would be on a ZX 25 or 27
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FinS 32 · 11-16-2012, 07:50 PM

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Fin, isnt the albrid a shaft style handle not a single side screw on(i forget the exact terminology)
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skippy i really dont know sorry. I casted it a few time, and liked it, smooth, light and casted well. as far as the technical stuff, i really dont know, sorry.

trevier · 11-16-2012, 08:10 PM

from what I've been told the new stella is going to have a long cast spool with the ci4 body and hardened gears, we'll see though,

stripermaineiac · 11-16-2012, 08:55 PM

I've beat the crap out of mine an she's held up fine. been usin it for 3 seasons both in the ditch an on the Vineyard. Used it real hard in Rhody the last 2 yrs too and it's taken being pounded by big waves an such on the rocks. It cast great on my Century 10 1/2 slingshot with 40 lb powerpro as line. The only caution i was given was that jiggin in the ditch was not a good idea as it would twist the lighter metals due to the torque it put on them so i never used jigs on mine. I use the emblem pro for that.

Jackbass · 11-16-2012, 09:19 PM

Wouldn't be an issue for me with the jigging I have a set up specifically for jigging
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Fishoholic · 11-17-2012, 11:51 PM

you said you have a Z, so I'm guessing this is just a canal distance reel that your looking for? If so, Em pro 5500 with an ungraded handle would be my choice. too many negatives about the saltiga.

bloocrab · 11-18-2012, 01:48 AM

Another vote for the Eblem,,,, I think it's more than just a bang for your buck.
Works great right out of the box///

I know that wasn't your question, but just because you want to build your rod around your reel, doesn't necessarily mean that the cost of the reel has to outweigh the rod that much. Good luck, whatever you do.

fatcow · 11-18-2012, 08:58 AM

If money is no option i would go with the new saltiga. I own the 6500 and its been dunked and fished from boat and shore hard. No problems at all. Casts as good as any other reel out there. If you shop around can get it for about a grand. Best reel out there in my opinion and ived owned them all.

piemma · 11-18-2012, 10:13 AM

I have a friend who fishes the Canal 100+ nights a year and beaches another 25. Fishes as hard if not harder than anyone on this site. Yes, he's a member but I'm not mentioning his name. He fishes a Stella and has no problem other than he wore out the drag washers from too many 30s and 40s in the ditch. I think this is his 3rd year with it. Testament enough for me.

fatcow · 11-18-2012, 05:11 PM

I also owned a stella 18000 and it lasted 2 months august and september. Sent it in and they said it looked like a bomb blew up inside of it. They fixed it for the $20 but i sold it right away. Never will buy another one unless its a newer version to blow that one up to.

ProfessorM · 11-18-2012, 08:50 PM

Bobby would be a good barometer as I can't imagine anyone fishing more than him. If he or his brother can't wear it out it can't be worn out. I do like my Stella 10000 though, but I luv my 4500 Saltiga even more. The perfect reel IMO for me but not made anymore.

Jackbass · 11-19-2012, 06:31 AM

I have a new empro 6500 with the spare 5k spool I may just stick with that for now. And hold off for the New shimano's? I am wrapping the rod with k's so it should be fairly flexible on the reel end of things. Maybe change the stripping guide if needed.
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stripermaineiac · 11-19-2012, 08:09 AM

Don't worry about changing that guide for the new reel. The spool size will not have the adverse affect that you think. It's not like doing a complete concept build as long as you keep that in mind when you build the rod.

Jackbass · 11-19-2012, 08:14 AM

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Don't worry about changing that guide for the new reel. The spool size will not have the adverse affect that you think. It's not like doing a complete concept build as long as you keep that in mind when you build the rod.

I was going to build a concept rod completely. I just didn't want to pigeonhole myself. Essentially I need to lighten my gear. Every year my right shoulder gets worse and worse. Not necessarily from fishing but Pre-existing conditions that repetitive casting aggravates. I just don't want to have to deal with the surgery that It will take to repair my arm. If I can lighten my gear and alter my casting slightly I think I'll be okay.
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