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04-04-2016, 03:21 PM
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Building a deck
Hi Guys
Short and Sweet
With the kids getting bigger we have decided to get a pool this summer.
I have done all the research i possibly could over the winter for decking materials, but am still torn
What have you used
Composite or PT?
What are your thoughts on both
thanks
Jim
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04-04-2016, 03:28 PM
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Around an above ground pool?
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04-04-2016, 03:56 PM
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sorry
correct spence
on the ground pool.(half buried)
sitting on ledge....can't go in the ground
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04-04-2016, 04:02 PM
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Seldom Seen
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Composite if it is in the budget. PT will dry, check, and split. Nature of the beast. Unless you want to be a slave to recoating every year. If you go with composite, you will never wish you had gone with PT instead.
I have installed most of them. Azek, Trex, Timbertec. Buy through a lumberyard, NOT through a box store or one of those discount places....
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04-04-2016, 05:15 PM
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dont go crazy depending on the age of your children you might get 10 years . after that our kids never used it.. once in High school .. future proof it I went with trex just on the deck and stairs the rest PT big enough for 2 chairs and the ladder
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04-04-2016, 11:44 PM
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Problem ive found with plastics is they do get hot.
PT sux. Even worse is when u use the new coating paints on them. That stuff gets so hot u could fry an egg on it
There is a new hollow/ honeycomb composite material that doesnt heat up like traditional azak. Because its hollow it transfers heat but is supposed to be just as strong and durable as traditional composites. I forget name but will ask someone that knows and let u know as a viable option.
Get ready to choke on cost of composite vs PT.
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04-05-2016, 06:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jim sylvester
sorry
correct spence
on the ground pool.(half buried)
sitting on ledge....can't go in the ground
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My in ground was put in with a yard full of ledge....3 days with a ram ho solved that issue. Pools are awesome.
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04-05-2016, 06:47 AM
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Go composite
Buy once,cry once
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04-05-2016, 09:23 AM
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composite is the only way to go....I prefer Fiberon decking, my deck is 16 years old, still looks new....non skid when it rains...easy maintenance I schwab the deck once a year in the spring with water and bleach let it dry and will look brand new....recommend pressure treated joist....my neighbor used brazilian hard decking has replaced and patched a few times....
If loading composite on vechicle B careful when layered on each other tie it down good or it will slide onto the road when U apply your brakes.... 
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04-05-2016, 12:42 PM
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Location: Hyde Park, MA
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Don't forget the insurance impact.
Will the pool be fenced in?
Are there little kids in the area?
What kind of wildlife do you get on a regular basis?
You'd be surprised who and what will try to make their way into a pool on a hot summer day/night!
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04-05-2016, 12:48 PM
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I dont think you can legally have a pool without a fence. It does add up in a hurry with fencing,patio,cabana et al. I will say that my pool paid us back in smiles in just a couple years! Good move Jim
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04-06-2016, 04:08 PM
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How big a deck?
PT sucks and Trex is a joke of a composite.Go with ipe if you can afford it or go with mahogany.All depends on the size of the deck and what you can afford.
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04-06-2016, 04:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
I dont think you can legally have a pool without a fence. It does add up in a hurry with fencing,patio,cabana et al. I will say that my pool paid us back in smiles in just a couple years! Good move Jim
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Varies by code but in most areas I believe you do.
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04-07-2016, 05:31 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by basswipe
How big a deck?
PT sucks and Trex is a joke of a composite.Go with ipe if you can afford it or go with mahogany.All depends on the size of the deck and what you can afford.
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IPE? I have to laugh at this tuff, horrible to work with, expensive, gets hot, and horrible to work with.
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04-07-2016, 08:47 AM
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I think composite looks a lot nicer today than it did when trex first came out. I have a mahogany deck and it requires a decent amount of maintenance. Unless you were trying to match existing wood I'd use composite and not have to worry about sealing, checking, splinters etc...
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04-07-2016, 08:51 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
I think composite looks a lot nicer today than it did when trex first came out. I have a mahogany deck and it requires a decent amount of maintenance. Unless you were trying to match existing wood I'd use composite and not have to worry about sealing, checking, splinters etc...
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Couldn't agree more. Go with a composite and a blind fastener system .
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04-08-2016, 06:48 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nightfighter
Composite if it is in the budget. PT will dry, check, and split. Nature of the beast. Unless you want to be a slave to recoating every year. If you go with composite, you will never wish you had gone with PT instead.
I have installed most of them. Azek, Trex, Timbertec. Buy through a lumberyard, NOT through a box store or one of those discount places....
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What Ross said. I re-did my big deck with Azek and never regretted it. PT will last 10 years at best and you will start with cracks after 4 or 5. You can use the treatments that fills in the cracks but it doesn't last. I have another smaller deck (10 x 12) on the back of the house that is PT and 11 years old. I am going to re-deck this spring (whenever that it) with Azek.
You can either screw the new decking down or use a "blind" securing system. I drilled and screwed the first deck but will use the blind system on the next one.
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04-08-2016, 01:45 PM
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I did mine with Cedar last year....a little pricier then PT but significantly cheaper than composite. Naturally water resistant and doesn't split.
I get a lot of sun on my deck so I can walk barefoot on the cedar where the composite gets extremely hot
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04-08-2016, 04:10 PM
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Jim, I did a nice big deck last year with the 5/4x6 STK white cedar. STK is Select Tight Knots. Nice alternative if you like wood. As always, attention to framing detail will set up a great finish.
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