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12-08-2009, 01:36 PM
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sick of bluefish
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: TEXAS
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Wow a new plan!!
Guess what? Obama has a new plan! He says we have to spend our way out of the recession! Not you and me spending, but the government needs to spend. So, he'll tax us, then spend our money to help the economy. This is brilliant. This guy has new and fresh ideas and really demonstrates creative thinking. He personifies "Change you can believe in"!
I mean who ever heard of a tax and spend Democrat? This is new!
WASHINGTON President Barack Obama outlined new multibillion-dollar stimulus and jobs proposals Tuesday, saying the nation must continue to "spend our way out of this recession" until more Americans are back at work.
Without giving a price tag, Obama proposed a package of new spending for highway, bridge and other infrastructure projects, deeper tax breaks for small businesses and tax incentives to encourage people to make their homes more energy efficient.
"We avoided the depression many feared," Obama said in a speech at the Brookings Institution, a Washington think tank. But, he added, "Our work is far from done."
For the third time in a week, Obama sought to focus on job creation, noting that the unemployment rate was still at 10 percent in November, though down slightly from its 10.2 percent peak. He said "a staggering" 7 million Americans have lost jobs since the recession began two years ago.
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12-08-2009, 02:46 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2004
Location: South of Boston
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America has begun to see the light, it has taken longer than I thought it would. His approval rating is plummeting daily. Gibbs went on the offensive about "polls" today.
Gibbs: Poll like a 6-year-old | POLITICO 44
This coming from a president and a staff that have been labled as obsessive in their attention to polls and trends.
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The charm of fishing is that it is the pursuit of what is elusive but attainable, a perpetual series of occasions for hope. ~John Buchan
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12-08-2009, 03:27 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
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OBAMA is a Genius....
i haven't seen one PLAN work yet...
but he's great at thinking them up
smoke another fatty mr president
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12-08-2009, 04:06 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Gloucester Massachusetts
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It's a 2nd Stimulus plan. Since not all the monies were not spent in the first package he thought up this new plan which is just about the same as the old Stimulus plan with one or two add-ons.
Go to a bank and try to get a small business loan.
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12-08-2009, 09:48 PM
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Registered Grandpa
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: east coast
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fly Rod
It's a 2nd Stimulus plan. Since not all the monies were not spent in the first package he thought up this new plan which is just about the same as the old Stimulus plan with one or two add-ons.
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He must have a new bunch of shovel ready jobs?
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" Choose Life "
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12-09-2009, 08:07 AM
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Keep The Change
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: The Road to Serfdom
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GET THE MONEY INTO THE HANDS OF THE SMALL BUSINESSES AND THE ECONOMY WILL RECOVER ITSELF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Keep it up with the spend and then tax and the country will be brought to its knees for GENERATIONS...
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Its not up to the courts to invent new minorities that get special protections, Antonin Scalia
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12-09-2009, 09:59 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 12,632
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the depression is coming, there is no way to recover from the debt that this a-hole has heaped and will continue to heap on the good people of this country.....he has no f-ing idea what he's doing except following the radical marxist playbook, demonize and crush the private sector and cause as much dependence on government as possible... "bring it all down, man"... lying his ass off as he goes with a compliant media that hasn't stopped masturbating from the election yet.... he along with the despicable rats running congress will continue to crush business with more regulations and taxes via cap and trade, card check, the global warming hoax crap, this h-insurance disaster and on and on...they are insane and they're only getting started and you dems that voted these pukes into office should start apologizing to your friends, family and neighbors and particularly your children and eventually their children.....America's greatest enemies currently reside in the Whitehouse and Congress, they have taken control and are steering the plane
Hoax and Change
Hoax and Change
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12-09-2009, 12:17 PM
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Retired Surfer
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Sunset Grill
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Instaed of spending the unspent bailout money why not just pay a debt. We owe China a friekin gazillion dollars. Give it back to the treasury.
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Swimmer a.k.a. YO YO MA
Serial Mailbox Killer/Seal Fisherman
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12-09-2009, 02:14 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Mansfield
Posts: 4,834
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Quote:
Originally Posted by scottw
the depression is coming, there is no way to recover from the debt that this a-hole has heaped and will continue to heap on the good people of this country.....he has no f-ing idea what he's doing except following the radical marxist playbook, demonize and crush the private sector and cause as much dependence on government as possible... "bring it all down, man"... lying his ass off as he goes with a compliant media that hasn't stopped masturbating from the election yet.... he along with the despicable rats running congress will continue to crush business with more regulations and taxes via cap and trade, card check, the global warming hoax crap, this h-insurance disaster and on and on...they are insane and they're only getting started and you dems that voted these pukes into office should start apologizing to your friends, family and neighbors and particularly your children and eventually their children.....America's greatest enemies currently reside in the Whitehouse and Congress, they have taken control and are steering the plane
Hoax and Change
Hoax and Change
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"America's greatest enemies currently reside in the Whitehouse and Congress, they have taken control and are steering the plane"
Well put!
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12-09-2009, 02:23 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Gloucester Massachusetts
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One of Obama's bright light ideas is to provide Stimulus monies to the Union so they could hire Caulkers, people to go around and caulk windows etc:, that this would provide jobs. Maybe he does not realize that the average person goes to a building supply store buys a caulking gun, caulking and do their own caulking.
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12-09-2009, 02:44 PM
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: Mansfield, MA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fly Rod
One of Obama's bright light ideas is to provide Stimulus monies to the Union so they could hire Caulkers, people to go around and caulk windows etc:, that this would provide jobs. Maybe he does not realize that the average person goes to a building supply store buys a caulking gun, caulking and do their own caulking.
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Maybe his thought is that it probably takes the average homeowner a day to caulk their entire house.
If the same job is Union though, that's 2 weeks of employment for at least 4 workers and a supervisor to get the windows done in the average-sized house.
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12-09-2009, 02:55 PM
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Location: Gloucester Massachusetts
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyD
Maybe his thought is that it probably takes the average homeowner a day to caulk their entire house.
If the same job is Union though, that's 2 weeks of employment for at least 4 workers and a supervisor to get the windows done in the average-sized house.
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HA! HA!
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12-09-2009, 04:03 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Easton, MA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyD
Maybe his thought is that it probably takes the average homeowner a day to caulk their entire house.
If the same job is Union though, that's 2 weeks of employment for at least 4 workers and a supervisor to get the windows done in the average-sized house.
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You're not even mentioning the extra work they get when they have to go back and fix the job because it wasn't done right in the first place. It can be just like the roads in your town.
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Conservatism is not about leaving people behind. Conservatism is about empowering people to catch up, to give them tools at their disposal that make it possible for them to access all the hope, all the promise, all the opportunity that America offers. - Marco Rubio
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12-09-2009, 04:29 PM
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Registered User
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Location: Mansfield, MA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fishbones
You're not even mentioning the extra work they get when they have to go back and fix the job because it wasn't done right in the first place. It can be just like the roads in your town.
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Exactly my point. Rt106 has been ripped up, paved, ripped up, paved (rinse and repeat) at least 5 times between Hope and East St, literally. They went though 3 engineers over something like a 4 year span.
Now they are repeating history underneath the RR bridge.
That's the problem with jobs that don't have performance-based raises.
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12-09-2009, 05:13 PM
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Registered Grandpa
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: east coast
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It was reported yesterday that if the spending continues Moody's
will drop the US Treasuries rating down from their current Triple A Rating within 3 years.
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" Choose Life "
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12-09-2009, 05:38 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Back to C.Cod x'd Rangeley Me.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by justplugit
It was reported yesterday that if the spending continues Moody's
will drop the US Treasuries rating down from their current Triple A Rating within 3 years.
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JUST IN TIME FOR THE ELECTION
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