OK...finally got around to replacing waterpump on Jeep and..... - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

BigFish · 05-20-2004, 04:43 PM

Got the new gasket on there and I am putting on the new pump.....tightening everything up and all of a sudden...."SNAP"!

The bolt that holds the power steering pump bracket in position and bolts the water pump to the block snaps off! I knew something was amiss as this bolt did not have a bolt hex-head on it as the others did. Turns out one of the previous owners must have snapped the bolt off before and instead of trying to do the right thing and extract the bolt properly (which is a ball-buster because the bolt is about 6 inches long and most of it is in the block and it is quite rusted in place I am sure) they simply welded another threaded end onto the broken bolt and put the pump and ps bracket back on with a nut!!!!

Any ideas as to how I can get this rectified properly? Anyone ever have this happen to them? Tried grabbing what was left with all kinds of tools, vice-grips, easy out, pipe wrench...small one for torque.....no luck. Probably gonna have to find someone who can drill it out and re-tap it I guess? Gotta find someone who will do it!

fishaholic18 · 05-20-2004, 05:01 PM

BF, is there still enough of the bolt left to grab?
Try shocking the bolt with a hammer, not too hard as to break something, and then grag with vice grips, may have to shock it several times.

Raider Ronnie · 05-20-2004, 05:01 PM

Larry,
Is any of the bolt exposed when pump is off or is there a timing case cover between water pump and block?
I may be willing to help you out as that is my line of work!
Ron

BigFish · 05-20-2004, 05:03 PM

Ron...there is about an inch of the bolt sticking out of the block. It is in iffy shape though, with all the grabbing I had tried to do....I did get a sense that it wanted to move though. Just don't have anything that can give me the grip I need. I had the vice-grips on there about as tight as anyone could clamp them and they simply slid off!

Ron...any help would be greatly appreciated!

Pump is off...no timing cover in the way.....the motor is a 318 Chrysler.

fishweewee · 05-20-2004, 05:10 PM

Give it a good dose of lube (WD-40?) to loosen it up a bit?

BigFish · 05-20-2004, 05:11 PM

FWW...the bolt is about 6 inches long more or less.....maybe even 7! Don't think wd-40 will penetrate that deep?

Raider Ronnie · 05-20-2004, 05:12 PM

Larry,
sometimes in that case I would weld a nut over whats left of the bolt to have something to use a wrench or socket to, and if possible I'de heat the block a bit as long as it is in a safe afea not to cause additional damage.
Another way , is to cut or gring the remaining amount of bolt off , center punch and drill and re tap or drill and helicoil it..
If you want, I could pick it up and take care of it.
Ron

BigFish · 05-20-2004, 05:14 PM

I thought of both of those options RR.....they sound like the way to go. How would you pick it up?

Any idea of cost so I can have a migraine headache tonight?

Raider Ronnie · 05-20-2004, 05:17 PM

Larry ,
I've got a new hydraulic tilt car trailer I use to tow vehicles to and from my shop.
Ron

fishaholic18 · 05-20-2004, 05:20 PM

BF, yes they do go thru the timing cover on a 318. If worse comes to worse, pull the t-cover and put a new chain and gears in it. Your more than half way there.

Raider Ronnie · 05-20-2004, 05:28 PM

Larry,
I sent you a PM
Ron

stripersnipr · 05-20-2004, 06:26 PM

If theres enough bolt exposed cut a deep slot in the end with the trusty old Dremel. Bang a big a screwdriver into the slot and then turn the screwdriver handle with a pipe wrench or vise grips until you get it to budge. Worked for me more than once. Good luck.

redneck24 · 05-20-2004, 06:41 PM

this is also my line of work, actually i work at a chrysler dealer. if you do have some bolt still sticking out try using a stud extractor. if not there are a lot of ways to do it, i would have to see it to know what you have, but i always start with the easiest way first.

macojoe · 05-21-2004, 03:32 AM

Just trade it in for a new one!!

BigFish · 05-22-2004, 07:35 AM

Raider Ron picked the Jeep up at my house last night, took it home and I believe he said he got the bolt out in 10-15 minutes (that guy is good). Ron is gonna do some other stuff I guess and put it back together for me so I should have it back sometime this week!

Ron....a million thanks!

X 1,000,000

Backbeach Jake · 05-22-2004, 07:41 AM

Glad you're getting your sand sled fixed. Nice save RR. All trades have little tricks that makes one man's agony another man's breeze. Now, let's go fishing!

Raider Ronnie · 05-22-2004, 08:26 PM

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Originally posted by Backbeach Jake
Glad you're getting your sand sled fixed. Nice save RR. All trades have little tricks that makes one man's agony another man's breeze. Now, let's go fishing!

Gotta do my part to ensure no plugs bounce off my boat when I'm trolling wire line at Race point in July, Just in case larry is fishing off the beach!!!

Maybe one time I'll be able to get him out of the sand down there to see what a blast it can be bouncing bucktails and jigs!!!

Ron

BigFish · 05-22-2004, 08:31 PM

Ron...all you got to do is say when! However....you got to plant yours in the sand with me one time!

(Just hope Ron doesn't put a remote detonated explosive device in my Jeep for those days when I "do" graze his head with a 4 ounce Hopkins?)

Raider Ronnie · 05-22-2004, 09:29 PM

(Just hope Ron doesn't put a remote detonated explosive device in my Jeep for those days when I "do" graze his head with a 4 ounce Hopkins?)

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Don't laugh!
Back in the early 1980s, at the height of the stolen car time & I was fixing atleast 2 dozen GM popped ignition columns a week,
I had this plan of making my millions by inventing the ultimate vehicle security system.
It consisted of a glow plug (like they have in diesel motors for cold day starting) installed in the gas tank. to be activated when the vehicle was not started with the key.
But at the time, we didn't have the gps technology nedded to have the vehicle far enough away from innocent by standers!!!

Ron

redneck24 · 05-23-2004, 08:17 AM

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Originally posted by Raider Ron
(Just hope Ron doesn't put a remote detonated explosive device in my Jeep for those days when I "do" graze his head with a 4 ounce Hopkins?)

Don't laugh!
Back in the early 1980s, at the height of the stolen car time & I was fixing atleast 2 dozen GM popped ignition columns a week,
I had this plan of making my millions by inventing the ultimate vehicle security system.
It consisted of a glow plug (like they have in diesel motors for cold day starting) installed in the gas tank. to be activated when the vehicle was not started with the key.
But at the time, we didn't have the gps technology nedded to have the vehicle far enough away from innocent by standers!!!

Ron

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I like that one.