Kerry - Swift Boats

[RIJIMMY]

You guys see this? I heard about it on the radio.
I really can't stand this guy.

http://www.swiftvets.com/

[spence]

I understand why there is so much emotion among vets for Kerry's protests, but this is nothing more than an attempt to smear someone who served.

Already one of the vets in the video has come out and changed his story from "Kerry shot a teenager in the back and lied to get his silver star" to "I believe he deserved it, I really wasn't there" or something like that. There's a story on boston.com about it.

Regardless these guys are being funded by some Republicans in Texas and it's all political. Kerry may have his own demons to deal with, but what's going on here is sick.

-spence

[RIJIMMY]

I doubt it, these are some big names in there including an admiral. These guys would be liable for slander if their accusations were false, unlike Moore's Farr. 911, this is a funded political add and cannot make false accusations and get away with it.
Kerry's lawyers tried to stop the add but the vets say they have the documentation to prove it.

[afterhours]

AHHH, THE WAR HERO....WAS HE ON THE 3 HR TOUR ....

[slapshot]

How can someone who has come back from Vietnam and amditted to comitting war crimes also be a war hero?

[chris L]

vote " none of the above "

hell no we wont go !

[Skip N]

Kerry should have seen this coming a mile away....after all the talking he did at the DNC telling everyone a million times he was a war hero of course some of his crewmates and people he knew in Vietnam were gonna critisize his ass! Memo to John Kerry: tell me what your gonna do for this country right now....we get you served in Vietnam but talk about what the F@%@ you are gonna do for the country now! And one more memo to the dems before they start ripping Bush....Kerry is the one that brought Vietnam into the Campagn not W.

[mrmacey]

am here to talk to you today because of John Kerry I would be dead if it were not for that man and this is the truth pm me if you really care how and what he did for me. and yes I am a vet who supports John Kerry like the hundreds of thousands he has helped.

[afterhours]

mrmacey, please post your story for all to see. i'm sure there is alot of interest.

[chris L]

does it have anything to do with ketchup ?

[RIJIMMY]

[Skip N]

http://www.swiftvets.com


Def worth looking at this site

[Skip N]

I for one
am here to talk to you today because of John Kerry I would be dead if it were not for that man and this is the truth pm me if you really care how and what he did for me. and yes I am a vet who supports John Kerry like the hundreds of thousands he has helped.


Please post the story....I thinik we would all be interested in hearing from someone who served with Kerry. Especially someone from here on SB

[Nebe]

Lets hear what the national guardsmen say about George Bush Jr's service in vietnam?? oh wait.. was he there?
Yep Propaganda.....and I bet for shure that each one of them are republicans

RIJIMMY, how are you going to feel when Bush invades Iran next year??

[Skip N]

why the F@%@ do you keep ripping on the national guard? In case you didnt know national guard troops are called to serve in combat all the time. My dad was in in the Army during the Vietnam era but just so happend he didnt get sent over there. He was readyand willing to go. In the guard.,thy served the country with honor. At least he didnt run to Canda like that Pussy Clinton. Funny, I dont hear anyone of you dems bring up Clintons cowardness during Vietnam. Now thats a guy that desrves to get criticized. That pussy

[mrmacey]

But Ill tell you how he helped me I was a down and out drug addict and drunk at the ends of my ropes with no where to turn and no where to go theres a place in Boston 17 court st where a veteran like me could go to for help. two people helped keep that place going in the begining Kerry and Moakley if it wasnt for them two fighting for funding there would be no help out there for the struggling veteran what are these boys gonna do when they come back whos gonna help them bush gave all the money to blowup and then rebuild other countries cut all our programs to pay for it because of senators and congressmen like kerry and moakly there will allways be help for the struggling vet and needy people all over today im going on 8 years clean because of the programs I started at 17 court street thank god for men like Kerry.

[Nebe]

Yup Macey... Bush says "I support our troops"..but as soon as they come home, screw em... when we went into Iraq family members had to privately purchase body armour for their kids over there.... Yep, thats our government supporting our troops

thats a touching story BTW- thanks for sharing


Hey Skip N... I'm not ripping on the guard....I'm ripping on Bush, and if you couldnt figure that out from my post its no surprise you support bush.

sorry, where was bush in '72??? beats me??
link-

Bush has all of you fooled....

Awol... a Coke Habit, DWI's.... you never hear about it in the media though....You know why? Because the dudes who own the media Co's want Bush in power so they can get their tax cuts... especially that crap called Fox News... pure Propaganda....


And to continue my rant... think of how many German soldiers died because they thought Hitler was a stand up dude...
If some of you need to vote for this dumbass feel free.. but heres a picture that pretty much sums it all up.
I need to go fishing

[Skip N]

Hey Skip N... I'm not ripping on the guard....I'm ripping on Bush, and if you couldnt figure that out from my post its no surprise you support bush.


....(Let's keep it family friendly guys)....you rip on one guy who served honorably in the guard that tells me you have no respect for the others who serve also. The media wants Bush to win is %$%$%$%$%$%$g funny! The left has CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC and ALL the major newspaper pumping up Kerry....Are you that stupid you cant see that? AH well, you are so far left you have no clue what the facts are on anything. Stay in your little fantasy world if you wish. I dont care. Im wasting my time right now responding to your Bull..... Im done with ya...aint worth my time anymore. Move to Canada and you'll fit right in with leftist morons.

[Nebe]

F-you? now you sound like #^&#^&#^&#^& Cheney

Bush went awol for a whole year.. how is that honerable service?


oh wait heres proof...


read this

[afterhours]

NOT A BIG SUPPORTER OF EITHER ONE OF THEM. BUT TO YOU KERRY GUYS, I WAITING FOR THE "POP". WHAT'S THE POP YOU SAY? IT'S THE SOUND YOU'LL HEAR WHEN YOU PULL YOUR HEADS OUT FROM UP YOUR ARSE AND SEE THE FRAUD. OH YEAH, THE KETCHUP QUEEN IS A CLASS ACT

[afterhours]

ps i do support programs for all of our vetrans that served us well,not whiney war crininals with self inflicted wounds.

[spence]

You can challenge Kerry's post war protests, but this notion of challenging all his medals is simply absurd and an insult to the 50,000 who died there.

This is a political attack ad of the lowest kind. Check out:

Republican-funded Group Attacks Kerry's War Record

-spence

[afterhours]

why is challenging HIS medals an insult to all who served bravely or those who died or were wounded? i'm sure that most vietnam vets would NOT choose him as their poster boy!

[spence]

The vets who dislike Kerry do so because of his post-war protests, not his time on tour...

It's idiotic for someone on this board to say Kerry's wounds were self inflicted in a negative manner. It's not like he shot himself in the foot to come home. He threw a grenade into a rice bin and was hit by the shrapnel. So now we're going to redefine what it takes to get a Purple Heart because we don't like one of the reciepients? You're disrespecting the entire notion of sacrifice.

Kerry has a lot of men standing behind him, his medals are a matter of public record not open to debate. Who are you going to believe? the man who Kerry actually rescued or a guy in another boat who's still burning over his Senate speech?

I'd ad that the same crew that did this commercial did the attack ad on John McCain in 2000. I care not to remember that sick event.

-spence

[afterhours]

the vets that i know consider kerry's protest bs AN INSULT to those who served and died there!

[spence]

Fine. Like I said...separate his service from his protest.

-spence

[afterhours]

FINE... THEY'RE BOTH SAD.

[spence]

If had not protested would you think anything less of his service?

-spence

[afterhours]

spence, if what i'm reading is true, i think his service was less than honorable. when he got that 3rd purple heart, grenade incedent, his c/o actually denied it and kerry was very persistent and went thru great lenghts to obtain it. knowing, i believe , about the 3 rd purple heart rule, which allowed him to seek transfer from combat. only man to ever leave s/ boats without serving i yr tour, with exception of dead or wounded. he walked out on his fellow servicemen.

[Nebe]

Whos the smarter man? the one who amits that he is wrong for fighting or the man who dies swinging without any thought?
We lost the war in Vietnam... there was no winning that one and Kerry knew it. Sorry, but when I see a leak in my boat I jump ship I dont go down with it.
Kerry fought with honor, and when he came home he said, hey this war is stupid, tens of thousands of amrericans troops have died for this cause, so lets make it stop. He proteested on ending teh war, and getting our troops home safe...I would have done the same thing.


I dont think Kerry is the best either, but for me, he's a better choice than bush.. and right now, hes the only alternative. Bush will ruin this country in another 4 years.... He'll go after Iran or North Korea (remember they actually do have WMD)... i'd bet a plug on that, and then how many people will have died? does anyone have kids that are about 16 or 18?? you can probably count on a draft in that case-

Another thing about bush... he keeps saying how he wants to create new jobs in the US and the economy is recovering.. o.k. thats fine, but with all of the free trade pacts he has signed which allow american companies to go and outsource in cheap labor countries, how is it possible to claim millions have new industrial jobs in america?? The Bush team is claming that working at fast food restraunts is industrial... yep thats lying and he lied to all of us again. Did anyone cry foul? no......
If you read between the lines Bush has been the most secretive president in our history, the most reckless, and the most decieving... and definately the least elloquent.