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10-25-2004, 12:01 PM
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Location: Mattapoisett, MA
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Needles
I threw everything but the kitchen sink yesterday and came up with 1 rat bluefish  so i decided to do some experimenting .
Habs, Beachmaster.Gibbs,and #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& needles. 10 knots breeze left to right with a 10ft med action ugly stick ,penn 7500 with 35lb whiplash . Beach masters seemed to tumble no matter how I cast them .The seem to fat and too light. #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&s better but floated in the air . Gibbs alittle more tail heavy good in the wind , Habs go like a damn rocket!!!! Now if I could only find a consistant supply of them with good color selection. The beachmasters need some lead in the butt so I'll drill and fill with lead and epoxy this winter . I like the beachmasters for their girth I just wished they would cast better. How do I get my hands on a BM needle to compare? Anybody finding the same results? Or was I just to damn board ? |
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10-25-2004, 12:08 PM
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Location: RI
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For god sakes please don't disfigure those Beachmasters 
Different needles for different conditions. The big Habs may be better in the heavy surf and massive wind, but they may require a little more effort to keep them off the bottom unless it's really big.
I love the Beachmaster needles, they have a wonderful moderate tail-heavy sink to them and great action. Can fish big and moderate water.
Salty's are great when it's not as rough, really nice weight for a teaser.
I'm no needle expert (not even close) but I love them all 
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10-25-2004, 01:54 PM
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um... its not the casting that matters its how they swim and catch |
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10-25-2004, 08:42 PM
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Needlefish Nazi
Join Date: Mar 2001
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JimO, Glad you like the NEEDLES, There is no effort to keeping them of the BOTTOM. Cast them out reel in slack and they STAY UP with no EFFORT, Just as PRODUCTIVE in the CALM as in the BIG SURF................ GOOD FISHING...................
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Over the Last Several Years HAB'S NEEDLEFISH Have Caught More "Confirmed" 30, 40, 50, and even 60 pound Striped Bass than any other Wooden Needlefish on the Market today. 2 Over 50lbs. and 1 Over 60lbs. in 2005 alone........... "HOOK UP WITH HAB'S" Your Best Bet For BIG BASS.....
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10-25-2004, 08:44 PM
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10-25-2004, 08:48 PM
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Needlefish Nazi
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cheferson, I hope it was on a FISH....................
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Over the Last Several Years HAB'S NEEDLEFISH Have Caught More "Confirmed" 30, 40, 50, and even 60 pound Striped Bass than any other Wooden Needlefish on the Market today. 2 Over 50lbs. and 1 Over 60lbs. in 2005 alone........... "HOOK UP WITH HAB'S" Your Best Bet For BIG BASS.....
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10-25-2004, 09:16 PM
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EVERY FISH COUNTS!!
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: south plymouth, MA
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superstrike needles dart on the surface of the water and hold good in rough water
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todays schoolie is tomorrows keeper,todays keeper is tomorrows cow,practice catch and release!!!.
GOD BLESS THE NRA!!!!
ROCK AND ROLL WILL NEVER DIE!!!!!
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10-26-2004, 12:59 AM
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10-26-2004, 05:50 AM
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Needlefish Nazi
Join Date: Mar 2001
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cheferson, You can fish all depths of the water colume with these plugs, I could make you a FLOATER 
Last edited by JHABS; 10-26-2004 at 06:14 AM..
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Over the Last Several Years HAB'S NEEDLEFISH Have Caught More "Confirmed" 30, 40, 50, and even 60 pound Striped Bass than any other Wooden Needlefish on the Market today. 2 Over 50lbs. and 1 Over 60lbs. in 2005 alone........... "HOOK UP WITH HAB'S" Your Best Bet For BIG BASS.....
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10-26-2004, 05:57 AM
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Needlefish Nazi
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cheferson, You can fish all depths of the water colume with these plugs, With a BIG Surf or No SURF  I never Lose them to ROCKS............... Cast Out ,Reel in Slack, Reel so SLOWWWWWWWW you are BORED and they stay on TOP................... Sorry for your LOSS |
Over the Last Several Years HAB'S NEEDLEFISH Have Caught More "Confirmed" 30, 40, 50, and even 60 pound Striped Bass than any other Wooden Needlefish on the Market today. 2 Over 50lbs. and 1 Over 60lbs. in 2005 alone........... "HOOK UP WITH HAB'S" Your Best Bet For BIG BASS.....
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10-26-2004, 06:02 AM
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All up in the Interweb!
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chef, there is an art to fishing the Habs. you can countdown, pause, dart, speed up, slow down, stop, etc... they all work at different times, just gotta know when to use what. if you are hanging up half way in, speed your retreive just before you would normally hang to bring the needle back up in the water column. then return to the original retreive rate.
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Co-Host of The Surfcast Podcast
"Out there in the surf is where it's at, that's where the line gets drawn in the sand between those who talk fishing and those who live it."
- a wise man. 
One good fish, a sharpie does not make...
Certified rock hopping billy goat.
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10-26-2004, 06:03 AM
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Habs, that's just my experience with the big 3.5 ounce ones...no issues with the others, but like I said...I'm no needle expert...
-sence
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10-26-2004, 06:05 AM
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All up in the Interweb!
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spence, the 3.5 ouncers actually have a slower sink rate than the 2.5 ounce. they should be, at least in my testing, easier to keep off the bottom.  |
Co-Host of The Surfcast Podcast
"Out there in the surf is where it's at, that's where the line gets drawn in the sand between those who talk fishing and those who live it."
- a wise man.
One good fish, a sharpie does not make...
Certified rock hopping billy goat.
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10-26-2004, 06:22 AM
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Needlefish Nazi
Join Date: Mar 2001
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Some want them on TOP some want them on the BOTTOM Where the BIGGER FISH ARE, Yes Mr. Lapiniski is correct on How to fish them. I designed them to be Versitle , To fish ALL Depths of the WATER columes............
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Over the Last Several Years HAB'S NEEDLEFISH Have Caught More "Confirmed" 30, 40, 50, and even 60 pound Striped Bass than any other Wooden Needlefish on the Market today. 2 Over 50lbs. and 1 Over 60lbs. in 2005 alone........... "HOOK UP WITH HAB'S" Your Best Bet For BIG BASS.....
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10-26-2004, 07:07 AM
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Needles, needles, needles.
Would you think I was nutz if all I carried in my plug bag were needles?
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10-26-2004, 07:41 AM
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With the flashlight moon this past night, it was the only lure that worked for me. 2 oz Habs deep in the water column.
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M.S.A. #422
L.I.B.B.A. #422
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10-26-2004, 07:43 AM
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Also known as OAK
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Westlery, RI
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Depends on where your fishing... 
Needles and Darters in my bag tonight |
Bryan
Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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10-26-2004, 09:27 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by tlapinski
spence, the 3.5 ouncers actually have a slower sink rate than the 2.5 ounce. they should be, at least in my testing, easier to keep off the bottom.
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Probably just user error I've not fished the big ones a lot though...need to play around more.
-spence |
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10-26-2004, 12:22 PM
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Bass Whacker
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Quote:
Originally posted by fishweewee
Needles, needles, needles.
Would you think I was nutz if all I carried in my plug bag were needles?
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I think I found all your needles washed up on Essex Ave, Spring Lake NJ |
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Originally Posted by Mike P
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10-26-2004, 05:24 PM
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Needles
Where do you find the big ones? --needles that is
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