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Old 06-24-2005, 10:31 AM   #1
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Braided line snarling help needed

I have a Penn 6500, not my first choice on and 11' foot plugging rod. I have 30# power pro loaded on the reel. About every 5th to 8th cast the line knots up while casting, obviously its knots while casting. I think it is because the spool is throwng the line towards the first eye more than it can handle. The first eye is 36" from the face of the spool and is a 40 mm eye. This is the only answer I can come up with. I have a shimano sustain on
an 8' foot rod and the first eye is 30 mm in size. It has 30# line on it and it works fines. The difference being is the spool on the shimano reel is much narrowing releasing a smaller loop of line towards the first eye.

I don't want to changelines because I love the extra distance and feel with the braid so I need any help or suggestions anyone feels like offering.

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Old 06-24-2005, 10:50 AM   #2
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line twist. If you got a buddy with a boat, take that reel out next time with you, Tie a snap on the end of your braid. let out your whole spool while you motor out, in a no wake area. Hold your line so you have some tension on it, and reel all your line in. Keep your line roller oiled/cleaned well and it shouldnt pose mush of an issue for you. I know, because I dealt with this on my penns for the longest time, then I finally just started oiling the chit outta the line roller and was good to go. Hope this helps. If no boat find yourself a tree, a big field and swivel and a nail.

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Old 06-24-2005, 11:16 AM   #3
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I had that problem last year on the 6500. Wind knots all the time. I switched rods this year and have not gotten a knot yet so I think the guides on my old rod were causing the problem.
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Old 06-24-2005, 03:50 PM   #4
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knots in powerpro

I use powerpro on my Penn 750 and my 5600 live liner and I have no problems. I do tend the line fairly attentively and make sure that I have no loose loops at the spool after each cast. However, this isn't so easy when fishing at night.

I find the keys are: a) don't throw too light of a lure given wind conditions. I also keep two spools for my reels, one with mono (I like the Yo-Zuri hybrid) and b) upon spooling up initially, make sure that that the line is nice and tight. A lose "spool-up" creates problems down the road.

Every now and then, I take a heavy lure (whatever the max the rod can handle) and make some VERY long casts with the wind at my back, and inspect the spool for any loops, then pinch the line on retrieve to make sure it comes up tight. This is very easy if you occassionaly fish from a boat. A little "preventative maintenance."

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Old 06-24-2005, 06:06 PM   #5
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I had the same problems with fireline and penns on both 8ft lamis and st croixs.The way it was explained to me, the penn spool throws to small a lop and therefore the knot. switced to a large spool Daiwa Capricorn and haven't had a problem since. Never had a problem with the 7ft st croix and the sustain. Go figure. The size and spacing of the guides may very well be part of the problem.

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Old 06-24-2005, 06:11 PM   #6
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I've got a 560 slammer on a 1088 with 20# fireline, no problem, 560 on a 1087 too, same, na prob.
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Old 06-26-2005, 07:24 AM   #7
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This happens ocasionally,make sure there is not too much line on the spool and don't try to throw it to hard,nice smooth but firm cast are key.It happens to me sometimes if i ty to put a little extra into the cast.g/l
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Old 06-26-2005, 08:00 AM   #8
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I've got a 560 slammer on a 1088 with 20# fireline, no problem, 560 on a 1087 too, same, na prob.
yesirree karl. that fireline seems to be the best of the lot. I tried the PP and it was a hassle switched on the advice of someone from here and have never had a problem since.

i like the fireline for sure
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Old 06-26-2005, 11:05 AM   #9
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Try 50# power pro. 30# seams to be too thin for surfcasting, thus all the knots. That, along with all the advise above, should help you out. Switching to a more brain friendly reel, the penn ss are notorious for being bad with braid, would help also if you have the means.

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