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Old 01-24-2006, 02:44 PM   #1
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Heres a new topic

website domains .com Etc! For months I sit at this computer in work and I try to figure good ways to add traffic to my site so I go to the phone book and look for businesses that have went under or do not use the website domains any more and I take them what do you think would happen if a company is still in business and gave up there domain and I took it and they found out Im getting there traffic is there and legality towards doing this stuff or is the internet free market to do what you want.
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Old 01-24-2006, 03:06 PM   #2
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If you had registered another limo companies name I'm sure they could legally claim the rights to it. If it's not company specific and you can't be shown to be doing damage to anyone I don't think there's anything they can do about it.

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Old 01-24-2006, 03:07 PM   #3
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This should answer your questions


http://www.icann.org/udrp/udrp.htm

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Old 01-24-2006, 03:14 PM   #4
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Say you grab

www.raynhamsubaru.com and 1 year later here comes raynham subaru they can take it from me or do they have to buy it if they want it.
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Old 01-24-2006, 03:23 PM   #5
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They could probably take it, not sure if there's any compensation required...I'd read through the Dad's links.

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Old 01-24-2006, 03:33 PM   #6
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I guess you can get

In problems after reading through that so its like if I register www.striped-basss.com hoping someone makes a mistake and adds an extra s on and im interfering with this site there could be a penalty if jr wants to persue it.
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Old 01-24-2006, 03:47 PM   #7
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Depends.

First he would have to file a complaint. Then hey may have to demonstrate that you're somehow doing harm to his business.

For instance, if you registered www.gooogle.com and linked it to a mink porn fishing site...I think they could shut you down.

Do a search online, there are probably some stories about real cases that could explain real findings rather than my speculation.

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Old 01-24-2006, 03:59 PM   #8
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A few years back if you typed in Abu Garcia.com it came up with a penial implant device.
Abu Garcia was almost black mailed into buying their name back for huge money.

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Old 01-24-2006, 04:15 PM   #9
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I remember my bro was helping his son do a homework assignment and they hit whitehouse dot com........made the hottie thread look like PG13!!!! Don't know if it's changed, but didn't want to type it as a link.

Nope, the Feds took that back...

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Old 01-24-2006, 04:29 PM   #10
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Back in the early days, there was what was known as cybersquatting, where guys would register domains that would obviously be worth money in the future like IBM.com and Chevrolet.com, the big companies bought them out rather than fight them and many guys made some decent money. Of course if you asked too much they would fight, but if you got there first you could have made $50,000 per domain name.

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Old 01-24-2006, 04:40 PM   #11
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So heres what

Happens a company registers a domain lets it run out you reregister you payed all fees you just forward the domain towards your site the old company forgot to take the domain out of the phone book and your getting leads from his old site is there something he can do besides get mad at me for doing this.
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Old 01-24-2006, 04:55 PM   #12
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Maybe sue you for Trademark Infringement. If Dell forgets to register and you grab the site and start using the Dell name to sell via the website....I could see that being an issue

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Old 01-24-2006, 05:12 PM   #13
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You know there is a story behind this

I registered a company that is still in business forwarded his old domain to my site so last night I get this e mail confirming a pick up through my website up at logan. now I have no reservation for this guy nor have I ever driven him before but the good guy I am I drive up there thinking I made a mistake and I was surely gonna be there when he arrived well theres another car there with the same name on it as my reservation I go over and ask what company hes with and you guess it the company I registered, the client punched in the web addy and got my site went to the reservation page and put his confirmation in saying he was coming in I laughed it off let the other guy take his job without saying anything and this is what got me to thinking I could get in trouble for this!
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Old 01-24-2006, 05:24 PM   #14
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A Michael Dell has more lawyers on salary than you have plugs!

B Sounds like you are trying to finagle the bagel here. The headaches would be huge, not to mention your new file with your attorney

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Old 01-24-2006, 05:30 PM   #15
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So what are you saying nightfighter

Make his domain point to a porn site until he pays to buy it back then buy that new hummer daddy I want.
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Old 01-24-2006, 05:33 PM   #16
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Hadn't looked at that angle! Brilliant!

I edited my post, but glad you saw it

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Old 01-24-2006, 05:40 PM   #17
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Old 01-25-2006, 02:02 PM   #18
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This was just in the News Today.....

U.N. Reports Rise in Cybersquatting By Bradley S. Klapper, Associated Press Writer
Wed Jan 25, 10:43 AM ET


GENEVA - The U.N. copyright agency on Wednesday reported a 20 percent jump in "cybersquatting" complaints last year, coming mainly from top tech firms, trendy fashion brands, Hollywood stars and sports personalities.

The agency registered 1,456 complaints for cybersquatting — or abusive registration of trademarks as Internet domain names — and the practice appears to be on the rise, said Francis Gurry, deputy director general of the World Intellectual Property Organization, or WIPO.

WIPO handles arbitration for over half of the world's cybersquatting disputes each year. Gurry said the rise highlighted the need for "vigilance by intellectual property owners."

"It is important to protect the integrity of market identity," he said. "If domain names are randomly attributed in new domains, intellectual property owners will be forced to compete with cybersquatters for their own trademarks — unless additional safeguards are introduced."

Most of last year's disputes have since been resolved, including cases brought by celebrities such as Morgan Freeman, Damien Hirst, Frank Gehry and Larry King, as well sports organizations including the Lance Armstrong Foundation, Italian soccer club Juventus and the English Premier League.

Web sites such as sony-ericsson.org and renaulttrucks.com, as well as fashion brands Ralph Lauren, Hugo Boss, Armani and Calvin Klein, were also targeted. Cybersquatters often demand great amounts of money for the sale of Internet sites to people or firms with registered trademarks, Gurry said.

"It's a commercial model based on the number of hits on a site," Gurry explained.

Anyone can register a domain name on the Internet for a few dollars, which has led to so-called "cybersquatters."

The U.N. arbitration system, which started in 1999, allows those who think they have the right to a domain name to get it back without having to fight a costly legal battle or pay large sums of money. It costs about $1,500 to file a claim at WIPO. The arbitration system cannot award financial penalties.

Previous celebrities to have won the Internet version of their names back through U.N. arbitration, including Morgan Freeman, Julia Roberts, Madonna, Nicole Kidman, Pamela Anderson, Pierce Brosnan and Carmen Electra.

In total, WIPO has received over 8,000 complaints, nearly half of which were filed by people or companies based in the United States. U.S. firms and individuals were also the targets of nearly half of all complaints.

France, Britain and Germany were next in filing the most cybersquatting complaints. But while the German and French were rarely accused of bad faith, the number of Chinese firms or individuals to come into the line of fire far outnumbered their compatriots filing claims.

Gurry said linguistic reasons partly explain the imbalance, because certain languages have much wider accessibility than others for cybersquatters.

With about 60 million registered domain names worldwide and the number still growing, he said cybersquatting would probably increase, but hoped that new measures would help stem the tide.

Since 1999, WIPO has decided in favor of the complainant in 84 percent of all cases.

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Old 01-25-2006, 02:26 PM   #19
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This is some of what I do for a living. Find the bad guys who are diverting traffic, cybersquatting, child porn, phishing, pharming and a whole host of other abuses. The Secret Service and FBI have 2 units dedicated to stopping this stuff.
you can go to www.ic3.gov and find out more.

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Old 01-25-2006, 02:32 PM   #20
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Man, I would love to do that .....What kind of Background do you need for that?

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Old 01-25-2006, 02:59 PM   #21
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25 years with IBM. Bach of Sci in Math. 5+ years in the Internet technology space.

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Old 01-26-2006, 07:35 AM   #22
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Exclamation back to your goal

quote mr macey: For months I sit at this computer in work and I try to figure good ways to add traffic to my site.
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your best approach (via the internet) is to concentrate strictly on search engines and how to auto submit your site to them ...until every search engine has your listing: until it bumps you up the ladder and your site pops up first in priority/popularity.
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Old 01-27-2006, 07:42 AM   #23
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I like this site, this guy has a set on him to fight them!

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