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04-26-2006, 09:41 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Libtardia
Posts: 21,690
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who here crushes their barbs??
As a rule i will always try to fish lures with crushed barbs until mid may and sometimes into june...sometimes i will forget to crush them, but about 95% of the time i am fishign barbless.
I just dont understand how people can justify hurting fish more than they have to if they are just going to release it.. I caught some schoolies the other night and let them flounder around at my feet in the water and they released themselves in about 4 seconds.. I didnt even have to touch them, but if my barbs were intact, i would have had to use plyers and preform a mini operation on them to get them back in one piece..
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04-26-2006, 09:43 AM
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#2
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: RI
Posts: 21,463
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nebe
I just dont understand how people can justify hurting fish more than they have to if they are just going to release it.
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How do you justify hurting fish at all then? You're still putting stress on the fish...
All for a few seconds of cheap thrill, like a quick sniff up the nose
-spence
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04-26-2006, 09:44 AM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 10,824
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Agreed. I crush the barbs until mid to late May. Even after then if there are a lot of fish and I don't intend on keeping any I will crush the barbs. Only time I don't is fishing eels.
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No boat, back in the suds. 
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04-26-2006, 10:00 AM
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#4
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Bethany CT
Posts: 2,883
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Usually crushed, always if it is schoolies. On trebles I generally crush em. If I got one uncrushed and its in the fish and won't come out easy, I will crush it before unhooking. Bucktails and other jigs and a shot at a bigun and I am likely to leave it barbed as long as possible. I agree, why if its unnescessary  oke:
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No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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04-26-2006, 10:05 AM
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#5
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Onset
Posts: 1,228
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Crushed for schoolies and bluefish.
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04-26-2006, 10:08 AM
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#6
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President - S-B Chapter - Kelly Clarkson Fan Club
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Rowley
Posts: 3,781
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I don't quite understand the whole barbless thing, with the exception of maybe one or two schoolies that get hooked a little further down in the mouth, the barbed hook seems to come out fairly easy.
I really hate losing a fish, big or small and I am afraid crushing barbs will increase the chance of that. Call me cruel....
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04-26-2006, 10:09 AM
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#7
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Calling Jon The Fisherman
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: The Sack Of Mass
Posts: 2,357
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I crush the barbs when fishing for schoolies and I don't use trebles when fishing for schoolies. After that.... let 'em bleed  ... no, when there's a chance for big fish the barbs stay.
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04-26-2006, 10:30 AM
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#8
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Weymouth, MA
Posts: 88
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I catch a ton of schoolies all season long (unfortunately) and I never crush the barbs. Besides a couple that might get hooked deep or twisted in the cartilige in the side of the mouth, they all go back quickly and hopefully it doesn't cause them any more stress than the fight. I am afraid as was said before that I will lose a decent sized fish if I don't have barbs. Maybe I will try it for early season and see how it goes. Can't hurt unless of course I lose "the big one".
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04-26-2006, 10:42 AM
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Stuck In Reality
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Holden MA
Posts: 4,519
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Always crush the barbs untill the big fish show. 100% easier to release.
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04-26-2006, 10:43 AM
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#10
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Southern R.I.
Posts: 173
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I crush all the barbs on my trebles, single hooks I leave the barb.
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04-26-2006, 10:46 AM
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#11
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 113
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I vote for crushing barbs. It saves schoolies, time, and my hands 
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04-26-2006, 10:48 AM
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#12
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Uh, in a spot....
Posts: 5,451
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I crush them on everything, flies, plugs and jigs. A good angler will loose very few fish because of this and aside from it being easier to release fish it's also easier to release yourself when in the middle of the night you get gaffed by a stray barb. You will loose a few of course but not that many. Crushed barbs and a hand gaff for lipping in the dark in the surf. My hands are precious to me. It is espoecially handy when big bluefish are around. I ususally just let them throw the hook rather than f&*k with them then I move.
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Why even try.........
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04-26-2006, 10:48 AM
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#13
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Manhattan
Posts: 305
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Though I'm a Large- seeker always-- Irelease most Bass (as I hope/ believe 95% of us here do), & fish crushed barbs always! (Excepting eels as mentioned-- a barb needed to keep the eel on the hook of course!)
For 10+ years now I'm using & field- testing "mostly crimped" barbs successfully! Of the last 10 Cows I lost-- none were to hooks/ plugs being thrown! (As I'm a stubborn 20 lb. mono guy, too many broken lines in craggy areas!)
On the 4x & 6x VMC trebles that I use on most of my plugs, the barbs are of modest size to begin with, so I crimp the barb down only slightly-- maybe 40% from original. On Mustads & other Trebles featuring large/ excessive barbs-- I crush these down maybe 75% or more. Singles used for plastics or chunking, etc.-- same, as the hook dictates.
I believe that beyond being release- friendly-- the lesser barb gets me MORE Large! To me-- 85% of the game there is penetration!... only 15% holding on during the fight! I'm much more worried about a hook opening/ bending (thus the 4x VMC's), OR the head plug swivel popping! (hear that Gibbs?  ).. than I am my nearly- barbless hook falling out during the battle!
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04-26-2006, 10:55 AM
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Finally
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: FL
Posts: 7,181
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I don't use hooks........... 
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04-26-2006, 11:06 AM
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Spot Preserver
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Mansfield
Posts: 2,461
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crushed when fishing for schoolies.
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04-26-2006, 11:06 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Playin' in the Dark
Posts: 2,407
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All my barbs get crushed when schoolie fishing. I usually don't use trebles when targeting schoolies either but its tought because they do love those small mambo minnows. Once the larger fish show I generally crush the barbs on the rear trebles on plugs only (limits the damage that hook does if it gets a fish on the side of the head and or in my hand).
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"Remember, my friend, that knowledge is stronger than memory, and we should not trust the weaker" - Van Helsing
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04-26-2006, 11:27 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Vineyard Haven
Posts: 413
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I crush em. It's just easier.
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04-26-2006, 11:40 AM
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#18
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Gloucester, MA
Posts: 404
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I crush the barbs on all trebles, single hooks I leave the barb
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04-26-2006, 12:04 PM
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#19
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Got Necco's?
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Franklin
Posts: 1,339
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I always crush the barbs when schoolie fishing and don't use trebles. When Ms. Big shows up it's open season!
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HAMMER TIME!
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04-26-2006, 12:38 PM
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Callinectes sapidus
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 6,277
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...Very rarely do I crush barbs. If I'm targeting schoolies, I rarely use trebbles, single hooks only. When targeting an area with potential large...it's show time, and anything goes. However....if I'm fighting a fish for more than 4 minutes I cut the line. I'd hate to fatigue him so much that he doesn't recover. Sometimes I perform CPR on the fish also...on bigger fish it's much harder as their mouths are so much wider than my own. I almost lost my head once, he had a double jointed jaw...he had me looking like I'd been wearing a mask and snorkel for a week....ring around the face.
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 ... it finally happened, there are no more secret spots
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04-26-2006, 12:40 PM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
Posts: 35,270
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Crushed for Schoolies and Blues but mostly uncrushed for bigger fish - been thinking though....
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04-26-2006, 12:49 PM
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It's about respect baby!
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: ri
Posts: 6,358
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This time of year. Definitely, crushed.
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Domination takes full concentration..
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04-26-2006, 12:55 PM
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#23
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Moderator
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Marshfield, MA
Posts: 6,267
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I crush trebles for schoolies
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04-26-2006, 12:58 PM
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#24
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: People's Republic
Posts: 1,025
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I crush the barbs on all tail hooks. I learned the hard way after a trip to the medical center on the block to get a hook removed from my finger. I don't use trebles on lures that I fish for schoolies. Just single hooks with the barbs crushed.
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04-26-2006, 02:14 PM
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#25
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Calling Jon The Fisherman
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: The Sack Of Mass
Posts: 2,357
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Clogston29
Once the larger fish show I generally crush the barbs on the rear trebles on plugs only (limits the damage that hook does if it gets a fish on the side of the head and or in my hand).
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 I like that idea... gonna give it a shot
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04-26-2006, 02:17 PM
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#26
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
Posts: 23,392
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I don't! 
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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04-26-2006, 02:17 PM
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#27
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: RI
Posts: 21,463
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Yes, ever have a schoolie nip the tail of a plug and get all 3 barbs in their little mouth?
-spence
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04-26-2006, 02:20 PM
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#28
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Night Stalker
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: ............
Posts: 3,605
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I crush them on all hooks smaller than 1/O because I use the plugs that have hooks that small for schoolies.
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04-26-2006, 02:24 PM
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#29
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Calling Jon The Fisherman
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: The Sack Of Mass
Posts: 2,357
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigFish
I don't! 
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don't what?
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04-26-2006, 02:39 PM
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#30
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Finally
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: FL
Posts: 7,181
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigFish
I don't! 
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Yes you do.. 
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