The Canal - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

eelman · 09-21-2006, 11:34 AM

Who here considers the "Canal" true Surf Fishing, I do not, it is man made first of all and it has no "Surf" so, how would you charecterize that place? its not really a breachway? its not really a river? its not an estuary?

Slipknot · 09-21-2006, 11:41 AM

surf is surf
shore is shore.

It is shore fishing absolutely
so if there are only 2 catagories to choose from , and someone calls them surf or boat, well it ain't boat so it must be surf.
The canal is not surfcasting, it is casting from shore though.
Have you ever been there when waves ARE coming thru? it sure can look like surf.

"its not really a breachway? its not really a river? its not an estuary?"
Nope, it's not any of those, it is a canal, a man made canal. and there is no other place quite like it on earth.

the way you wrote the poll, saying the second choice is it doesn't fall under any catagory is a little strange to say the least.

eelman · 09-21-2006, 11:43 AM

Ok then, fishing a fresh water lake is also "surf" fishing???? Yes shore is shore but the word "surf" means something, if you have no surf than how can you call it surf fishing?? You cant! Its not surf fishing..........

Mike P · 09-21-2006, 11:44 AM

If you don't think there's surf there, head on down to Pip's when the wind is blowing 30+ NE

reelecstasy · 09-21-2006, 11:45 AM

shore fishing.... and i have been there when waves are pushing thru, yikes!

eelman · 09-21-2006, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike P

If you don't think there's surf there, head on down to Pip's when the wind is blowing 30+ NE

even the great lakes have wind driven waves ! nope it aint surf fishing.......its "land " fishing

reelecstasy · 09-21-2006, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike P

If you don't think there's surf there, head on down to Pip's when the wind is blowing 30+ NE

Too funny, when I wrote my reply that is right where I was thinking...

Slipknot · 09-21-2006, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&

Ok then, fishing a fresh water lake is also "surf" fishing???? Yes shore is shore but the word "surf" means something, if you have no surf than how can you call it surf fishing?? You cant! Its not surf fishing..........

I don't call the canal surf.

you have a point, if there is no surf, how can you call it surf. So when the ocean beach is flat as a lake,like on race point at times, then you can't call that surf fishing? nonsense.

surfcasting is from a beach with waves crashing in front of you. Surfers surf in the surf, surfcasters fish in the surf

Why does the canl have to fit in some catagory? the place is kinda unique. I hear they catch fish there on eels too

Slipknot · 09-21-2006, 11:52 AM

land fishing? what? now it's land fishing, oh ok

so we try to catch fish from land, you make it sound like we are casting onto land to catch a landshark

Now I see why clammer calls you whako

Mike P · 09-21-2006, 11:57 AM

Hmmm, this topic sure does ring a bell---now where have we had this discussion before

Oh yeah---now I remember

http://www.wmi.org/saltfish/saltboar...hing/T4511.htm

See Bill, here's one thing you and your old buddy Gowgie agree on

eelman · 09-21-2006, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Slipknot

I don't call the canal surf.

you have a point, if there is no surf, how can you call it surf. So when the ocean beach is flat as a lake,like on race point at times, then you can't call that surf fishing? nonsense.

surfcasting is from a beach with waves crashing in front of you. Surfers surf in the surf, surfcasters fish in the surf

Why does the canl have to fit in some catagory? the place is kinda unique. I hear they catch fish there on eels too

Lighten up....its a topic...not the end of the world...everyones has opinions, my opinion is if you fish the canal exclusivelt then you cannot call yourself a surf fisherman in the true sense of the word...

Diggin Jiggin · 09-21-2006, 12:09 PM

Lets just agree that a fish caught from there is a shore fish and therefore, they count.

And by the way, jig fish count double

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Slipknot · 09-21-2006, 12:10 PM

I see
and I am lightened up, I lost 2 pounds.

MikeP, I like DZ's reply =

7/6/1999 3:38:00 PM Submitted by D.z. (205.67.218.30) from RHODE ISLAND says Surf Fishing
Surf Fishing is any kind of fishing from the shoreline. Surf Casting is casting with plugs or eels. I refer to all bait fishermen as surf sitters in the act of surf sitting. Dennis Z

Mike P · 09-21-2006, 12:20 PM

I don't know anyone who fishes the Canal exclusively. Not even guys who live 5 minutes away

JohnR · 09-21-2006, 12:22 PM

Damn that was a long time ago, well not really, but in INterent & Dog years... Speaking of dogs - anyone beat lughead recently

eelman · 09-21-2006, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Diggin Jiggin

Lets just agree that a fish caught from there is a shore fish and therefore, they count.

And by the way, jig fish count double

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Ummm No not really, "technically" thats not a true shoreline, its a breakwater kind of like the rivers edge...the shoreline would be a place like nauset beach, race point, etc....so they are caught from a man made rockpile

Is fishing the providence"toilet" in the winter for holdovers from the land considered surf fishing?

tynan19 · 09-21-2006, 12:54 PM

Where is this thread going?

Mike P · 09-21-2006, 12:57 PM

Hey John---think we can push this one to 96 posts?

Karl F · 09-21-2006, 01:03 PM

Double sided Jetty fishin, and a river runs thru it...

it's shore fishing, yes.. but I would not liken it, to a night of surf fishing..
it is it's own unique style.
You certainley don't use the same techniques and gear, you do from a sandy beach.

eelman · 09-21-2006, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by tynan19

Where is this thread going?

Its going no where and more tounge and cheek than anything, I can see mike knows that already basically its a useless thread so yank it if you like, give the mods something to do

fishaholic18 · 09-21-2006, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&

Who here considers the "Canal" true Surf Fishing, I do not, it is man made first of all and it has no "Surf" so, how would you charecterize that place? its not really a breachway? its not really a river? its not an estuary?

Who Cares!!!

It's all fishing no matter how it's done.
I fish because I enjoy it, doesn't matter how I do it, I like it all, boat,shore,rocks,beach,canal,toilet,whatever......
What about when they fished from bass stands in the old days? How do you classify that? Not that it matters..

The Dad Fisherman · 09-21-2006, 01:17 PM

Definition of Surf from American Heritage Dictionary.

surf (sûrf) KEY

NOUN:

The waves of the sea as they break upon a shore or reef.

Definition of Fishing from American Heritage Dictionary.
fish·ing (fshng) KEY

NOUN:

The act, occupation, or sport of catching fish.
A place for catching fish.

So if you are engaged in the Act, Occupation or Sport of Fishing where the waves can break on the Shore or Reef you are standing on then its Surf Fishing. Doesn't say anything about it being "Qualified" as Man-Made or Nature Made.

eelman · 09-21-2006, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by fishaholic18

Who Cares!!!

It's all fishing no matter how it's done.
I fish because I enjoy it, doesn't matter how I do it, I like it all, boat,shore,rocks,beach,canal,toilet,whatever......
What about when they fished from bass stands in the old days? How do you classify that? Not that it matters..

I care......

fishaholic18 · 09-21-2006, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&

I care......

Why? What does it matter?
Then if the Canal isn't surf, what is it and what are the guys who fish it???? Please clarify, Bill...

Mike P · 09-21-2006, 01:48 PM

If wind driven waves don't qualify as surf---Nobska Light isn't "surf" either

Anything on the south shore of the Cape isn't surf

Whole north shore of MV

Hell, all of Cape Cod Bay--Sandy Neck, Town Neck, Plymouth, you name it.

numbskull · 09-21-2006, 02:07 PM

Canal fishing is like surfcasting, only harder.......... but with better parking and bigger rats.

PoPin Plug · 09-21-2006, 02:11 PM

you can only call it surf if there a hundreds of boats coming ziping by causing bunch of waves and theres a storm about to happen other wise... NOPE!

ProfessorM · 09-21-2006, 02:12 PM

chris L · 09-21-2006, 02:24 PM

I call it canal fishing ! it is canal fishing so I call it as I see it . could be classified as shore fishing but I wouldnt call it surfcasting or boat fishing . river fishing is a close cousin of canal fishing . So If I was fishing in the erie canal would it be erie fishing

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boat fishing = platform fishing
shore fishing = fishing from land into water of any kind
canal fishing = fishing a canal
river fishing = fishing a moving river
landfishing = landshark encouinters

Mrs. Arlsburgerhhh? what ? Mrs. Johannesburrrr? who is it ? Flowers flowers ? from whom ? plumber ma'am . I dont need a plumber . you are that clever shark arnt you ? candygram . candygram my foot Im calling the proper authorities . You're the shark, and you know it. I'm only a dolphin... A dolphin? Well...okay.) landshark !!!!!!!!

I was singing in the rain just singing in the rain what a glorious feeling just singing in the rain . Oh its not raining you say well I say it is ............. somewhere . is it 5 oclock yet yes somewhere it is .

If I fished in a toilet it would be power plant fishing . no ?

hey Bill have fun at that island .

fishpoopoo · 09-21-2006, 03:25 PM

#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&,

life is a canal.

you were brought into this world thru a canal

dentists torture u with root canals

u hear thru an ear canal

food goes into the alimentary canal

you make love to a canal (correct me if i'm wrong - if yer a back door guy even that could be called a canal)

so it makes perfect sense to hang up some jigs in a canal