OtW Team Update.. - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

NIB · 07-26-2007, 07:25 PM

http://www.onthewater.com/stripercupleaders.html\

The Good Jersey team has a 23 lb lead.Certainly not rapped up by any means..
I am the bottom guy again.
I Kinda hope no one gets a bigger one..

BMEUPSCOTTY · 07-26-2007, 07:45 PM

They did a pretty good job listening to suggestions after the first year. Maybe the shore advantage could be knocked down a couple points, but the biggest problem with this thing is they are having the awards ceremony before the fishing is peaking. What is the reason for this, again? Been awhile since I asked, I forgot. I did not attend the party last year, but from the pics on the site, it didn't look like something they couldn't do in November. I mean, some are fishing into November, we can't survive UNDER A TENT the week before Thanksgiving?

Squid kids Dad · 07-26-2007, 08:16 PM

I think one reason is not to interfere with the MV derby??

Mike P · 07-26-2007, 08:49 PM

Sponsorship--Harpoon is a major sponsor and they want the awards ceremony to coincide with the kick-off of their Octoberfest celebration. Because of the need to compile final standings before the awards, it has to end in mid-September.

Harpoon is a good sponsor.

Redsoxticket · 07-26-2007, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BMEUPSCOTTY

Maybe the shore advantage could be knocked down a couple points,

Indeed boats have an edge but as of now with Jersey at 497 points the boat division average of the ten bass will need to be 50 lbs/bass and likely to increase by cup's end. No way no how.

inTHERAPY · 07-27-2007, 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Redsoxticket

Indeed boats have an edge but as of now with Jersey at 497 points the boat division average of the ten bass will need to be 50 lbs/bass and likely to increase by cup's end. No way no how.

I heard that the Pats were going to spot Miami 7 points this year and Tiger was not going to be allowed to use his putter any more! The Cup needs to be on a level field or dare I say 2 divisions. It ain't over. Art

NIB · 07-27-2007, 06:56 AM

I agree, The old Schaffer Cup worked off a 1.2 I think..
33 percent is alot.When we saw that we new we had a chance to win so our team got bigger.
Don't hate the playa, hate the game.

Mike P · 07-27-2007, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by inTHERAPY

I heard that the Pats were going to spot Miami 7 points this year and Tiger was not going to be allowed to use his putter any more! The Cup needs to be on a level field or dare I say 2 divisions. It ain't over. Art

I can't argue with either one. 33% is a big handicap. A 10% bonus for shore would be more like it. Two divisions, like the MV Derby, would be even better.

jim sylvester · 07-27-2007, 09:20 AM

Nib

congrats on a great season so far for you and the team

23 lb lead is safe for now....hopefully this weekend will produce something over 35 from the surf for us

JohnR · 07-27-2007, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike P

I can't argue with either one. 33% is a big handicap. A 10% bonus for shore would be more like it. Two divisions, like the MV Derby, would be even better.

I feel that two divisions would be best but if thee is one division a handi-cap does level the playing field a bit. 1.2 might be the magic "fair" number.

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Originally Posted by jim sylvester

Nib

congrats on a great season so far for you and the team

23 lb lead is safe for now....hopefully this weekend will produce something over 35 from the surf for us

- I'm trying

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Originally Posted by inTHERAPY

I heard that the Pats were going to spot Miami 7 points this year and Tiger was not going to be allowed to use his putter any more! The Cup needs to be on a level field or dare I say 2 divisions. It ain't over. Art

No, it isn't over, not at all. But the field isn't level at 1 to 1 either.

Of course, there is no way to predict what a season is going to do and whether it will play out to favor the surf guy or the boat guy.

The good news is that the OTW guys have been listening to us and have made improvements before the start of each season.

BrianS · 07-27-2007, 10:06 AM

I have every intention of weighing in a 50 or 60lber this weekend... So that should help

Think positive!

Even if it borders on delusion.

inTHERAPY · 07-27-2007, 10:26 AM

[QUOTE=BrianS;510452]I have every intention of weighing in a 50 or 60lber this weekend... So that should help

Brian, I think that every time I leave the dock and I feel especially good about tonight and tomorrow.

Saltheart · 07-27-2007, 10:28 AM

They should do it like a golf handicap using the previous years results then the previous two year results , etc. Assign 1 point per pound. take the best boat score and devide it by the best shore score. that should give you a number like 1 .2 , 1.3 1.1 , etc. that is how the premium for a shore fish should be calculated. you can then adjust that a little by redoing the calculation using 1 years data the second year and 2 years data in the 3rd year , 3 years data in the 4th , etc. eventually you have plenty of data and a shore multiplier that is based in past catches and should be fair to everyone.

beyond that , we need to catch some 50's to replace the 30's to regain the lead!!

striperman36 · 07-27-2007, 10:58 AM

if I didnt have to drive to Nomans to catch bass I would have entered a frigging fish. Westport to Sakonett is a wasteland at the moment.
No big bass, fluke or seabass.

Slipknot · 07-27-2007, 05:19 PM

You go NIB
23 point lead

good for you guys!
wow, if you didn't change teams this year the S-B team might be closer with your fish.
Now doesn't that bother you that you released that 40?

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Originally Posted by inTHERAPY

I heard that the Pats were going to spot Miami 7 points this year and Tiger was not going to be allowed to use his putter any more! The Cup needs to be on a level field or dare I say 2 divisions. It ain't over. Art

level playing field - that's what OTW was trying to do with the new point system but In my opinion when I first saw it was 1.3 differential, I thought that was too much advantage for the surf fish. 10 percent is more than enough. Even a boat doesn't make it that much easier to land really big fish, it certainly helps but big bass can and are caught from shore pretty readily each year.

One of my issues with the contest is they need a new sponsor that doesn't need the contest to end before my best fishing of the years begins(end of Sept. beginning of Oct. for me).

Good luck Art, catch a cow

NIB · 07-27-2007, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Slipknot

You go NIB
23 point lead

good for you guys!
wow, if you didn't change teams this year the S-B team might be closer with your fish.
Now doesn't that bother you that you released that 40?

I Caught some good fish this yr.I did it while only keeping one per outing.So when I bagged a good one that was it.I certianly had some better then the ones I weighed in.There where some awesome outings..not sure if one was forty maybe close.I never put em on the scale.I just thanked em an released em.
It does not bother me at all.