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02-07-2008, 05:11 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 8,718
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New On The Water tournament rules
FWIW there will now be a .2 handicap for shore anglers instead of .3
Also, yo-yo fishing is not allowed.
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PRO CHOICE REPUBLICAN
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02-07-2008, 05:14 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: marshfield,ma
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Whats a yo-yo?
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02-07-2008, 05:38 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Narragansett, RI
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they are round annd go up and down, I still have an early 50's duncon. 
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Salty
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02-08-2008, 03:29 AM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 10,824
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Quote:
Originally Posted by riverrat2
Whats a yo-yo?
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If you don't know then you needn't worry. You won't be in violation. 
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No boat, back in the suds. 
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02-08-2008, 07:08 AM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
Posts: 35,270
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
FWIW there will now be a .2 handicap for shore anglers instead of .3
Also, yo-yo fishing is not allowed.
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Not surprised. Next year it il be .25
Quote:
Originally Posted by piemma
If you don't know then you needn't worry. You won't be in violation. 
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Toungo-In-Cheeko 
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~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
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02-08-2008, 07:41 AM
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Moderator
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Marshfield, MA
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just divide into two catagories already....
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Live at Leeds
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02-08-2008, 08:15 AM
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#7
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 8,718
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OTW is adamant about keeping one category and maintaining their imaginary handicap. Similar to golf or bowling. It doesn't seem as though a shore and a boat category would be unreasonable.Someday I am sure they will present a reasonable format.The adjustment made in the handicap index will certainly prove to be useless now that they have banned yo-yo fishing from the boat category.
I wonder why there are two divisions yet they try to handicap one of them and offer one prize.
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PRO CHOICE REPUBLICAN
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02-08-2008, 11:02 AM
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It's about respect baby!
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: ri
Posts: 6,358
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnR
Toungo-In-Cheeko 
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Rosetta stones paying off huh 
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Domination takes full concentration..
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02-08-2008, 08:42 AM
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Respect your elvers
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: franklin ma
Posts: 3,368
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Quote:
Originally Posted by riverrat2
Whats a yo-yo?
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anyone who fishes w/redlite is a yo-yo....
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It's not the bait
At the end of your line
It's the fishing hole
Where all the fish is blind
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02-08-2008, 08:54 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: marshfield,ma
Posts: 833
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Back Beach
anyone who fishes w/redlite is a yo-yo....
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Thats for sure
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02-08-2008, 11:14 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 4,716
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Imo its a good rule, changing it to a more even playing feild. Though impossible to prove without evidence, are they going to implement a lie detector test?
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02-08-2008, 11:18 AM
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Boston Anglah
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Sitting on top of the world with my legs hangin free
Posts: 3,322
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The FLW tournament had a lie detector test...
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Used hard and put away dirty....
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02-08-2008, 12:34 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 61° 30′ 0″ N, 23° 46′ 0″ E
Posts: 8,158
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How do you ban something by the honor system? Why go through the trouble of making a rule that's unenforceable to start with?
Weighmaster: "You didn't catch that fish on a yo-yo rig, did you?"
Entrant: "Hell no"
Do they expect guys fishing for the same team to blow the whistle on each other?
It's symbolic and an empty rule. The worst kind of rule you can make. One that relies on self-enforcement by the entrants. All show and no substance.
I'd let yo-yoing be an legal method as long as the state kept it a legal method.
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Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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02-08-2008, 01:03 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 8,718
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike P
How do you ban something by the honor system? Why go through the trouble of making a rule that's unenforceable to start with?
Weighmaster: "You didn't catch that fish on a yo-yo rig, did you?"
Entrant: "Hell no"
Do they expect guys fishing for the same team to blow the whistle on each other?
It's symbolic and an empty rule. The worst kind of rule you can make. One that relies on self-enforcement by the entrants. All show and no substance.
I'd let yo-yoing be an legal method as long as the state kept it a legal method.
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Unenforceable maybe, but I know the Captain on our team won't allow a fish to be entered that was caught outside the parameters of the system.Now the decision to even enter the tournament is one that will be called into question. I am sure Team #^^^^&'s as well as Linesider B&B is also considering skipping a year.Perhaps this is the only way to get On The Water to make it a fair tournament.Personally ,I think their strategy will backfire and the number of entries will diminish until they wake up and allow teams to compete on a level playing field.The majority of the boat teams don't recognize anyone as the winner other than who weighed in the most pounds anyhow.
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PRO CHOICE REPUBLICAN
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02-11-2008, 11:29 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Cumberland,RI
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If you are entered as a boat guy , you can't even enter a shore caught fish at all can you?
Anyway , I think OTW is doing a good job and letting it evolve. I think they made good progress and ran a good tournament the first two years.
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Saltheart
Custom Crafted Rods by Saltheart
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02-11-2008, 12:51 PM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Georgetown MA
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The way I see it is On the Water Runs a Tournament. They set the Rules. When you sign up you agree to abide by those rules......It doesn't say anywhere in the rules that you will abide by them and then piss and moan about them when the tourney ends.
I give them credit for at least listening to you and trying to change the rules the following year to make people happy.
Bottom line is if you don't like the rules for that year.....don't send in your registration fee. And if you do register you play by their rules and smile the whole time and say Thanx for putting this together for us.  (see I'm Smiling)
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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02-11-2008, 06:46 PM
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end of the fence guy
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: tiverton ri
Posts: 749
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
The way I see it is On the Water Runs a Tournament. They set the Rules. When you sign up you agree to abide by those rules......It doesn't say anywhere in the rules that you will abide by them and then piss and moan about them when the tourney ends.
I give them credit for at least listening to you and trying to change the rules the following year to make people happy.
Bottom line is if you don't like the rules for that year.....don't send in your registration fee. And if you do register you play by their rules and smile the whole time and say Thanx for putting this together for us.  (see I'm Smiling)
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exactly
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boat fish dont count
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02-11-2008, 07:47 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Fall River
Posts: 238
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
The way I see it is On the Water Runs a Tournament. They set the Rules. When you sign up you agree to abide by those rules......It doesn't say anywhere in the rules that you will abide by them and then piss and moan about them when the tourney ends.
I give them credit for at least listening to you and trying to change the rules the following year to make people happy.
Bottom line is if you don't like the rules for that year.....don't send in your registration fee. And if you do register you play by their rules and smile the whole time and say Thanx for putting this together for us.  (see I'm Smiling)
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words of wisdom from dad
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rather be fishin'
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02-11-2008, 08:12 PM
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#19
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 8,718
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I agree also.I actually considered this to be an intelligent discussion.Perhaps discussions like this may have influenced the rules changes in the past.The same may happen moving forward.
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PRO CHOICE REPUBLICAN
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02-12-2008, 09:11 PM
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#20
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: guilford CT
Posts: 858
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Last yr I had my own personal numbers restictions.I killed enough bass in my lifetime. I wanted to give some of em a break.So instead of killing 2 per day as the law allows.I only kept one good one an let the others go.Last yr, 4 of my 5-30 lb fish could have been upgraded a few lbs at least..
In the past 2 yrs I have 9-30 lb pins.
For what...that is the real question..
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now thats the most sensible statement I've heard outta any of US in a long time....
in other words-
if it wasn't for this tournament, would you be killing all those fish??
I don't wanna get down on people for how/why they choose to fish in the tourny, just think we should all take a good look at whether or not its worth killing all the "best fish" we catch during the season?? would you kill 'em if you weren't entered???
think about it..................
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02-14-2008, 09:59 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Southern Maine
Posts: 178
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No Offense to anyone from this board who I know or those of you that enjoy participating but....Screw "On The Water" and their kill fish for profit, hypocritical tournament!
Or maybe they're not hypocritical...Do they? Or have they ever encouraged conservation of the resource? I don't know....
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