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03-07-2008, 11:34 AM
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must find the fish
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: North Shore Ma
Posts: 712
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MA fishing in april.. not lookin good?
while RI's water temp is a bit higher than projected, anywhere north is about 5 degrees below the projected.. and since that magical 50 wasnt projected till first half of may, i'm losing hopes for april fishing. all this snow has kept the waters cooler than expected all winter.
i dont have tooo much experience following actual water temp patterns. so any one on here who has a bunch of experience with it. what do you think? will the temps normal out and hit high 40s before may? or are we going to be sitting around till the second half of may waiting for that?
dont get me wrong i will be getting my line wet. but would be nice to have some what proper water temps. could be making a lot of RI trips.
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There he stands, draped in more equipment than a telephone lineman, trying to outwit an organism with a brain no bigger than a breadcrumb, and getting licked in the process. ~Paul O'Neil, 1965
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03-07-2008, 11:39 AM
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My brother is bald
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Parts Unknown
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They always show up around the same time with a standard deviation of about 10 days.
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seals + plovers =
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03-07-2008, 11:39 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Cumberland,RI
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To me it seems like smaller fish don't care all that much about water temp. Maybe (maybe) 50 is some magic number for the big fish but every year fish even to 30 or so inches are taken in early april when the water is still pretty cold. Now this happens in very select locations so maybe the water there is a little warmer than general ocean temps.
Anyway , there will be fish around in march for sure and by April there should be some that are a little bigger here and there. We'll get a week of warm days with favorable winds and all of a sudden the places taht are lagging in ntemp will shoot up in a couple of days back to normal.
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Saltheart
Custom Crafted Rods by Saltheart
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03-07-2008, 11:44 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Uh, in a spot....
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It doesn't really matter. They show consistently within a 10 day span each year in April on Cape Cod, lots of snow, no snow, cold or warm. The only thing that keeps the bite off is water temp and then they usually seek bays and estuaries that warm up faster than the open water as the bait is active in those places with warm shallow waters.
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Why even try.........
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03-07-2008, 11:46 AM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Georgetown MA
Posts: 18,203
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Who says fishing in April has to be from the Salt.....trout ponds are melting and getting stocked in March. The Largemouth are starting to do there dance of love in April and getting ready to start spawning....That works for me until the Striped ones get here in May
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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03-07-2008, 11:47 AM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
Posts: 23,392
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Chris....you think TOO much. Its fishing...enjoy it for what it is and your experience will be all the better. 
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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03-07-2008, 11:59 AM
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must find the fish
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: North Shore Ma
Posts: 712
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i enjoy it larry. actually i don't. like with every thing else in life i enjoy that hunt. (or the problem that needs to be solved) it's like women.. if they ignore me i love them.. trying to figure out everything they do and why and what turns them on.  the second i figure it out.. i lose interest. which is why i think fishing has stuck with me for so long. just when ya figure it out... it changes. season to season. heck day to day.
and theres ALWAYS a bigger fish to catch!
so in short thinking and trying new stuff is my favorite part. on that note, fish dont like slim jims too spicy i guess.
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There he stands, draped in more equipment than a telephone lineman, trying to outwit an organism with a brain no bigger than a breadcrumb, and getting licked in the process. ~Paul O'Neil, 1965
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03-07-2008, 12:11 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Easton, MA
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I agree that the smaller fish show up most years within a few days regardless of the water temps. I believe that it has more to do with the suns position in the sky and the length of the day. The water temps seem to have more effect on the big fish's arrival in certain spots on the Cape, but they are also usually pretty consistent within a week or two.
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03-07-2008, 12:11 PM
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#9
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must find the fish
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: North Shore Ma
Posts: 712
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Saltheart
To me it seems like smaller fish don't care all that much about water temp. Maybe (maybe) 50 is some magic number for the big fish but every year fish even to 30 or so inches are taken in early april when the water is still pretty cold. Now this happens in very select locations so maybe the water there is a little warmer than general ocean temps.
Anyway , there will be fish around in march for sure and by April there should be some that are a little bigger here and there. We'll get a week of warm days with favorable winds and all of a sudden the places taht are lagging in ntemp will shoot up in a couple of days back to normal.
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i hear ya.. but i've been watching ocean temps all winter. cause they were supposed to hit 40something in january and thats when i was gonna try for some hold overs. sadly they stayed down at 32.5 - 34 all winter.
either way.. if fish are around that early. try LOTS of topwater plugs during the day. the fish should be holding at the surface soaking in the heat from the sun. 50 is the low end of the striper comfort zone. so if the water is below some slow movers up top could be what the doctor ordered.
any of you guys with hold over spots.. i hope you keep fishing those into may.. i would. thats where the water would be most comfy for them.
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There he stands, draped in more equipment than a telephone lineman, trying to outwit an organism with a brain no bigger than a breadcrumb, and getting licked in the process. ~Paul O'Neil, 1965
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03-07-2008, 03:35 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Martha's Vineyard, MA
Posts: 185
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GonnaCatchABig1
if fish are around that early. try LOTS of topwater plugs during the day.
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IMO thats exactly what I don't want to be fishing that early in the year. The fish are slower and more lazy with the colder water temps... so I prefer slow moving sub surface soft baits
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03-07-2008, 03:59 PM
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Fish Hound
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Shrewsbury, MA & Mashpee, MA
Posts: 1,159
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chris, about the whole water temp situation.... that can change in a few weeks with a nice warm spell. also, i would much rather have the water on the cooler side than on the warmer side -----> bass will stay in town longer  fine by me
whats up bennny!!!!
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"There are many things in life that will catch your eye, but only a few will catch your heart.....pursue those."
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03-07-2008, 04:00 PM
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must find the fish
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: North Shore Ma
Posts: 712
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flyben24
IMO thats exactly what I don't want to be fishing that early in the year. The fish are slower and more lazy with the colder water temps... so I prefer slow moving sub surface soft baits
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same thing... slow and up top. fish wont be hanging around deep water with those temps.. too cold.. and the ones that are down there would be almost comatose. any active fish would be near the top of water column soaking in the warmth of the sun. i'm thinking (now that i've got one) a surface danny nice and slow.
but i'm one of those people who has never been able to figure out suspended fish. so for me in that cold water.. goin any deeper would spell disaster. and im sure theres a biggun just laying downthere behind a boulder waiting for it to warm up a bit.
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There he stands, draped in more equipment than a telephone lineman, trying to outwit an organism with a brain no bigger than a breadcrumb, and getting licked in the process. ~Paul O'Neil, 1965
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03-07-2008, 04:29 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Burlington
Posts: 2,290
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They show up when the herring show - temp or not! 
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low & slow 37
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03-07-2008, 04:41 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Canton, MA
Posts: 126
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Bubba weather or no weather, hot or cold you arent catching anything so do worry about it  
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03-07-2008, 04:43 PM
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#15
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must find the fish
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: North Shore Ma
Posts: 712
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ShipWrecked
Bubba weather or no weather, hot or cold you arent catching anything so do worry about it  
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says the only guy who i've never seen hook a fish... 
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There he stands, draped in more equipment than a telephone lineman, trying to outwit an organism with a brain no bigger than a breadcrumb, and getting licked in the process. ~Paul O'Neil, 1965
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03-07-2008, 04:53 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: North Cambridge, MA
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Don't forget about April Cod. They are still inshore until the water jumps out of the 40's.
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03-07-2008, 04:56 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Canton, MA
Posts: 126
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Coming from the guy I dont have money to buy gear but I'll drop 3k on a computer to play online games. Like I said you wont have time to fish as you will playing online.
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03-07-2008, 05:01 PM
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#18
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must find the fish
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: North Shore Ma
Posts: 712
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i already told you in another thread.. i am using wally world specials this year to out fish you and yer hundreds of dollars worth of lamis and penns.. already got a $15 rod... just need to find a $20 reel... i'm not even gonna use power pro this year.. to expensive.. gonna go with some no name mono.. ya know the kind, the 20lb stuff is the diameter of coaxle cable. 
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There he stands, draped in more equipment than a telephone lineman, trying to outwit an organism with a brain no bigger than a breadcrumb, and getting licked in the process. ~Paul O'Neil, 1965
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03-07-2008, 05:09 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Canton, MA
Posts: 126
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heck you might as well fish online. It the only keeper you are going to get.
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03-07-2008, 05:11 PM
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Soggy Bottom Boy
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Billerica, Ma.
Posts: 7,260
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I never start until mid May, I don't really like catching 12 inch schoolies. Schoolie smuley
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Surfcasting Full Throttle
Don't judge me Monkey
Recreational Surfcaster 99.9% C&R
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03-07-2008, 05:27 PM
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#21
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must find the fish
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: North Shore Ma
Posts: 712
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ShipWrecked
heck you might as well fish online. It the only keeper you are going to get.
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if they had a fishing MMORPG i definately would be. but they dont so i hafta stick to my offline fishing games to get me by..
but yeah back to the water temps... guess i will try and pretend like they dont matter. instead of sitting here checking them every day till june. easier said then done. >.<
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There he stands, draped in more equipment than a telephone lineman, trying to outwit an organism with a brain no bigger than a breadcrumb, and getting licked in the process. ~Paul O'Neil, 1965
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03-07-2008, 05:35 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: MASSACHUSETTS
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what about holdover? any of those spots hot right now?
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03-07-2008, 06:11 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Norwich Ct
Posts: 276
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tattoobob
I never start until mid May, I don't really like catching 12 inch schoolies. Schoolie smuley
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Yeah! What he said!
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03-07-2008, 06:14 PM
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Australian Ambassador
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Bikini Bottom
Posts: 250
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gunpowder
chris, about the whole water temp situation.... that can change in a few weeks with a nice warm spell. also, i would much rather have the water on the cooler side than on the warmer side -----> bass will stay in town longer  fine by me
whats up bennny!!!!
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Exactly, a week with a good southwest blow in mid April and we're all set as far as water temp, unless you're up on the North Shore like me, then it's usually mid May before water temps hit 50.
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03-07-2008, 06:15 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Houghs Neck
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There's always flounder. 
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03-07-2008, 06:29 PM
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Australian Ambassador
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Bikini Bottom
Posts: 250
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Monty
There's always flounder. 
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The heck with doormats, that's an area rug!
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03-07-2008, 07:07 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Houghs Neck
Posts: 74
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Quote:
Originally Posted by plankton
The heck with doormats, that's an area rug!
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Thanks Plankton, it's been getting better every year, the harbor is getting cleaner and the bait fish hatches have been plentiful. I live on an estuary and the flounder fishing is getting closer to the point it was back in the 70s.
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03-07-2008, 10:36 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Hull, MA
Posts: 512
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Jim, no need to be mean...and since I outfished both of you last year I think you should both bow down lol...I was catching at the ave on storm shads last ear in April Bubba, I got some other good spots too, and as stated above we can always go bag some freshwater or some flounder in the boat
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03-07-2008, 11:10 PM
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Red Eye Jedi
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: East Facing
Posts: 4,374
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i think the 50 degree mark has more to do with the fall than the spring. it seems like once it gets below 50 in the fall the fishing is pretty much done, except for the rats that hang around all year. on the other hand, in the early spring the water can still be in the forties but you might have a string of warm weather days and that will gets the schoolies more active, even out front. of course thats just MHO 
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03-07-2008, 11:14 PM
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Work hard. Fish harder.
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 764
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Got Carp?
How about carp fishing in March or April?
I have not done carp fishing in years. But, I have come to know some stripah fanatics who fish carp pre-stripah season.
Now where is that book on carp fishing....?
-Fish360.
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