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03-29-2008, 09:37 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2001
Posts: 7,649
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How bad will plug prices be at RISSA this year?
I am not looking forward to this, I am afraid we are in more more sticker shock. Any guesses out there?
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03-29-2008, 10:05 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: N.K.
Posts: 1,330
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If I bring the wife even the bombers are too much and I hear "you already have a bunch of these things","waste of money","We have no money","You never catch any fish anyway why bother".
If I go alone I get what I want and hide it all before I get home.
Note to self.....Buy a bag of hooks and get a receipt for proof I bought something cheap and complain it was boring and I may not go to the next one.Next one comes and you just say you'll need more hooks.
Hope she doesn't come on this site and read this.
If she does then I may not make the show.
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03-29-2008, 06:19 PM
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ditch boy
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: the sea
Posts: 664
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the plugs that are being sold on the other site are waaay over priced....i know some shops that are selling these plugs less then 30 bucks
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03-30-2008, 12:01 AM
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Fish Hound
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Shrewsbury, MA & Mashpee, MA
Posts: 1,159
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hyefisherman2
....i know some shops that are selling these plugs less then 30 bucks
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shhhhh!!!  ..... we dont want all of them raping and pillaging our store 
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"There are many things in life that will catch your eye, but only a few will catch your heart.....pursue those."
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03-30-2008, 05:37 AM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 10,824
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This is why God made eels and bunker....
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No boat, back in the suds. 
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03-30-2008, 07:54 AM
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Respect your elvers
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: franklin ma
Posts: 3,368
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Quote:
Originally Posted by piemma
This is why God made eels and bunker....
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It's not the bait
At the end of your line
It's the fishing hole
Where all the fish is blind
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03-30-2008, 08:25 AM
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ditch boy
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: the sea
Posts: 664
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gunpowder
shhhhh!!!  ..... we dont want all of them raping and pillaging our store 
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oh right...i forgot 
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03-30-2008, 10:27 AM
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#8
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Uh, in a spot....
Posts: 5,451
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You know, after building my own for these many years, I think plug prices ( directly from outlets like tackle shops and retail stores not flea bay or BST Forums) are actually fair.
When you figure the cost of making them in time, materials, legal coverage and other business expenses and most importantly the thought of being in the business to make at least a small profit and based on todays costs for all of the previously mentioned they are pretty much right on target.
I really have no problem with paying the freight for todays wooden plug builders models.
Procuring the materials and then building the plugs is a lot of work and time consuming.
My hat is off to these guys, I couldn't do it. I get frustrated building 20 or 30 a year.
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Why even try.........
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03-30-2008, 11:30 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Cumberland,RI
Posts: 8,555
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Each guy has to draw the line somewhere. If a plug is so expensive you are afraid to lose it , you probably shouldn't get it.
What surprises me is that the price of plugs hasn't dropped with all the publicity sluggos and storm wildeyes and other rubber have gotten.
I still have lots of Gibbs plugs (needles , poppers , danny's darters) that i paid an average of $7.50 for ten years ago. I doubt I will ever spend over $20 on a plug. At some point its smarter to use something else or start making some yourself.
Oh , BTW , this is not a comment on whether or not the plug builders efforts are worth the money. Its simply my opinion as to what price level would drive me to a different startegy like rubber or rigged eels , etc.
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Saltheart
Custom Crafted Rods by Saltheart
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03-31-2008, 01:08 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Easton, MA
Posts: 5,737
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For me, it's all about confidence when I'm plug fishing (which I do 90% of the time). I don't like spending an arm and a leg for a nice plug, but I do it because there are certain plugs that I know I will catch with. Hab's Needles are one of those plugs that I always felt good about using. I think if you have confidence, you are more likely to work the plug correctly and not rush your retrieve. I figure that a $1,000 rod/reel setup looks great and will help you land the fish, but you still have to have something that catches them. For me, I use plugs that I have confidence in. I still use plastic and rubber, but I always feel that I'll do better with certain wooden plugs. And if you're patient and look around, you can still pick some up for reasonable prices (especially with some of the sponsors here).
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03-29-2008, 10:09 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: RI
Posts: 21,463
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Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
HOW bad do you want them to BE Jim?
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Salty, is it true all your plugs are now being made here?
http://www.sulekhab2b.com/ViewOffer/...le-factory.htm
-spence
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03-29-2008, 10:12 AM
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#12
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2001
Posts: 7,649
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You are still pretty reasonable and produce enough of them to go around. You are almost in your own nitch within the plug industry. IMO You build the "working mans fishing plug" and build enough of them so that if (when) you lose one the pain in your hip pocket stays there and doesn't bleed into your savings account.
I saw some auctions this winter on harder to get plugs that almost drove me to the lathe! Seriously, the cost for some of these are over the top. These were not collectors items...just fishing plugs. I know it is a supply and demand thing but when prices get that high it becomes too painful.
It is not just the US either. I bought a few plugs from overseas this winter to check out...they are pretty expensive as well.
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03-29-2008, 10:17 AM
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must find the fish
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: North Shore Ma
Posts: 712
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better question.. what booths will be accepting plastic? 
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There he stands, draped in more equipment than a telephone lineman, trying to outwit an organism with a brain no bigger than a breadcrumb, and getting licked in the process. ~Paul O'Neil, 1965
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03-29-2008, 10:36 AM
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Retired Surfer
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Sunset Grill
Posts: 9,511
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GonnaCatchABig1
better question.. what booths will be accepting plastic? 
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I never have that much green on me, but I always have plastic, which I use rather proficiently. I'll be at RISSA and I'll have plastic. 
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Swimmer a.k.a. YO YO MA
Serial Mailbox Killer/Seal Fisherman
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03-29-2008, 11:22 AM
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Trophy Hunter Apprentice
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: THE Other Cape
Posts: 2,508
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Sum booths have deals, sum doant!
it is whatit, IS !
I heard a vicious rumor that "The Don" of AYC and Big Larr were
giving their first 10 plugs away to the Ho's that *moan the whiniest and gripe the grumpiest
and cry the teariest and hold their breath the redfaciest and stomp their feet the stompiest* in a
brazen attempt to get them to "disount" their fine craftsmanship!!!
GIMME A BREAK!
man up, it's only once a year, to keep this RISAA Event as one of the premier events of the Show season. if you want all the vendors to give things away how can ya expect them to keep coming to Providence? I relish the idea and thoroughly enjoy the fact that we can see all of the custom builders of our region together, in one place, fogeddah bout the killer seminars  ...................
Can we do sumthin bout the Gansett suds, though!
Not bad, but how's about some cold Sam's or BASS,
get it, BASS Ale 
Last edited by BassDawg; 03-30-2008 at 05:33 AM..
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"The first condition of happiness is that the connection
between man and nature shall not be broken."~~ Leo Tolstoy
Tight Lines, and
Happy Hunting to ALL!
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03-29-2008, 12:21 PM
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#16
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Ocean County , N.J.
Posts: 262
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BassDawg
I relish the idea and thoroughly enjoy the fact that we can see all of the custom builders of our region together, in one place,
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My feelings also, its a great opportunity to get a chance to see and talk to the everyone involved in our sport.. And in alot of cases meeting some for the first time that we come to know and do business with on these internet message boards over the years..
Been doing it at the Jersey shows for years and last year headed up to RI for the first time and looking forward to making it a annual trip
now..
To the question on this thread about how much for plugs, well I look at it this way these builders put alot of time and effort in creating these lures for us surfcaster's and I don't think there is a ton of profit after factoring in the cost of materials and hours spent on each lure so I am happy to spend what they charge for each..Bottom line if I don't think its not worth it I don't have to buy it. But what I have found is that they do not try to get over on anybody and try their best to keep them affordable for all...
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03-29-2008, 11:05 AM
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#17
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Retired Surfer
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Sunset Grill
Posts: 9,511
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Quote:
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
Bring your plastic to my booth and I will show you how to recycle it into WOOD 
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 O.K. Scott
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Swimmer a.k.a. YO YO MA
Serial Mailbox Killer/Seal Fisherman
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03-29-2008, 11:22 AM
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#18
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Join Date: Apr 2002
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adam_777
trust me.....
when i say...................
you are not alone.....
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