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RIJIMMY · 05-29-2008, 03:36 PM

Barack Obama’s Unlikely Supporter: Rupert 'Fox News' Murdoch
Kara Swisher and Walt Mossberg had a long day of grilling executives at their All Things Digital Conference. But they saved Rupert Murdoch -- their Wall Street Journal overlord -- for last. The highlight? Murdoch’s not-quite-but-almost endorsement of Barack Obama for president.

The founder -- and defender -- of Fox News said he expected Obama to win in a landslide, citing widespread unhappiness with the current administration and his disenchantment with Republican contender John McCain. Murdoch added that after a long career in the Senate, McCain had been forced to compromise too much and doesn’t stand for much. Murdoch even nonchalantly owned up to influencing the New York Post to back Obama in the New York primary.

Nebe · 05-29-2008, 04:52 PM

did you ever question my genius? If so your fired. Nebe is always right. And if Nebe is wrong about something, it is usualy part of a larger picture, which Nebe is right about.. mcCain will only steer this country down the road of more of the same... A longer war in Iraq, more hand outs to corperations to rape US citizens, More excuses why YOU have to live in fear and not question the pilfering that is going on..

Im not saying Obama is perfect but his heart is in the right place.

EarnedStripes44 · 05-29-2008, 06:00 PM

Obama is more qualified than McCain....

and he is smarter

stripersnipr · 05-29-2008, 07:50 PM

So now an endorsement from Murdoch is a good thing...........okay.

spence · 05-29-2008, 09:29 PM

I certainly think Obama success would be good for Murdoch's media mega-enterprise, and, hence, pocketbook.

-spence

Joe · 05-30-2008, 07:33 PM

I don't think it will be a landslide. I think it will come down to Ohio and Florida going blue instead of red and maybe not Florida, but certainly Ohio. The hardcore red states are staying red.

spence · 05-30-2008, 07:51 PM

I'm still standing by my call some time ago...McCain by 5.

Although I think it's going to be neck and neck into the home stretch.

As many negatives as Obama does have, the country is really sick of the current GOP.

-spence

Bronko · 05-30-2008, 08:31 PM

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I'm still standing by my call some time ago...McCain by 5.

Although I think it's going to be neck and neck into the home stretch.

As many negatives as Obama does have, the country is really sick of the current GOP.

-spence

I agree with Spence. Gonna be close, but the old bird is going to win it. I do think if he were to run against Hillary, he would lose.

stripersnipr · 05-31-2008, 07:32 AM

Yep, There's going to be a crossover vote factor with a substantial number of Moderate Dems opting for Mcain that wouldn't exist if Hill was running. Anyone who think's the Reverends exposure isn't a factor in this are living in a state of denial. It matters.

spence · 05-31-2008, 07:56 AM

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Yep, There's going to be a crossover vote factor with a substantial number of Moderate Dems opting for Mcain that wouldn't exist if Hill was running. Anyone who think's the Reverends exposure isn't a factor in this are living in a state of denial. It matters.

I love it..."state of denial"

Were Bush supporters last time round in a state of denail thinking the war wouldn't hurt his vote? Cause in the end it didn't make a difference.

The Wright issue will turn some people off, but as the real campaign unfolds Obama has plenty of opportunity to woo those people back.

Ultimately the vote is going to come down to vision for the next few decades, and on this aspect McCain is off his personal message and into the GOP rut.

-spence

stripersnipr · 05-31-2008, 08:57 AM

Oh yeah, I forgot the "But Bush" factor. At least you concede my point that the Reverend effect has turned some people off. I do agree that the final outcome of the election will come down to the perceived vision of the canidates and the fundamental sources that vision is derived from. That's why we're looking at four more years of the GOP.

spence · 05-31-2008, 09:47 AM

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Oh yeah, I forgot the "But Bush" factor. At least you concede my point that the Reverend effect has turned some people off. I do agree that the final outcome of the election will come down to the perceived vision of the canidates and the fundamental sources that vision is derived from. That's why we're looking at four more years of the GOP.

Some effect, although in the big picture the impact will likely be marginalized assuming Obama doesn't get his advice from former Kerry campaign staffers.

I think most people are smart enough to understand Obama wasn't some brainwashed flockster who's life hinged on Wright's every word. And the rest, perhaps mostly Hannity fans will still cling to the notion that Obama is a secret Cuban exile who's first official act will be to burn the American flag. There's nothing that will change that as they have more interest in mocking than working for beneficial change.

It's probably safe to assume that Obama's vision, like most of us was influenced primarily by his family and his upbringing...in which case he has a pretty strong American platform to stand on.

It's more than ironic how the party of "family values" is so quick to discount this fact.

-spence

stripersnipr · 05-31-2008, 10:08 AM

The description of Obamas up bringing on a "strong American platform" is debateable, don't you think?

Joe · 05-31-2008, 02:35 PM

There's no way McCain can win Ohio.

Nebe · 05-31-2008, 02:47 PM

and there is no way Obama will win Florida.. assuming the voting fraud happens agian

FishHawk · 06-02-2008, 04:52 AM

Obama will beat McCain. McCain will loose his temper and then it'll be over. FishHawk

EarnedStripes44 · 06-02-2008, 12:28 PM

McCain is kind of thuggish

maddmatt · 06-02-2008, 02:53 PM

your thuggish

Nebe · 06-02-2008, 03:06 PM

and he looks like a chipmunk with those puffy jowls. who would ever vote for a chipmunk?

fishbones · 06-02-2008, 03:09 PM

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and he looks like a chipmunk with those puffy jowls. who would ever vote for a chipmunk?

David Seville?

RIROCKHOUND · 06-03-2008, 10:43 AM

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...06-03-10-58-42

RIROCKHOUND · 06-03-2008, 10:53 AM

Damn...

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/...ats/index.html

Nebe · 06-03-2008, 11:03 AM

make her go away... please.

buckman · 06-03-2008, 02:00 PM

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and there is no way Obama will win Florida.. assuming the voting fraud happens agian

Your talking about the the way the Dems just gave Obama, Clintons votes?

Nebe · 06-03-2008, 02:23 PM

No, i am talking about the way florida restricted many poor people access to their right to vote by any ways neccessary, be it physical restrictions such as limit the # of voting machines to cause long lines or tampering with electronic vote #'s

buckman · 06-03-2008, 03:04 PM

Them Bush's were at it again. Their pretty clever when the left needs an excuse. And they pulled off 9/11. "Shear"genius ( no pun intended from the other thread)

likwid · 06-03-2008, 03:05 PM

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make her go away... please.

When will she learn that no means no?

buckman · 06-03-2008, 03:20 PM

She should be your parties nominee. She has that all important polular vote that you made the big stink about last election.

Nebe · 06-03-2008, 03:38 PM

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She should be your parties nominee. She has that all important polular vote that you made the big stink about last election.

true but how many republicans voted for her in the primaries to give her the popular vote?

buckman · 06-03-2008, 03:43 PM

I didn't think of that. I'm glad she won't be running. The more I hear her the less impressed I am with Obama. You better get her out soon