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Grumpy Old Pharts Board Gerritol, Ex-Lax, Immodium, Bad Breath - all requirements for the Grumpy Board |
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11-20-2008, 10:07 AM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
Posts: 14,773
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Bird Feed
I like to feed the birds and have a few feeders. I went to the local place the other day and had sticker shock at the price of black oil sunflower seeds. 25 bucks for 50 lbs. and the guy says I am lucky as they just went down 7 bucks a bag the other day. Wow. Every hobby is getting expensive.
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"A beach is a place where a man can feel he's the only soul in the world that's real"
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11-20-2008, 10:09 AM
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Old Guy
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Mansfield, MA
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I have to check Wild Birds Unlimited.
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11-20-2008, 10:24 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: RI
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Haven't bought safflower in a while, hate to see what it's at...
If I use sunflower the varmints will clean it out in a day.
-spence
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11-20-2008, 11:23 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
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bj's is 17.99 i believe for the 50 lb. of black hull seed
best spot is always at a feed store
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11-20-2008, 11:46 AM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
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Spence you need to get tree rat proof feeders, worth the extra cash.The kind where they close up when too much weight is on them. They give up after a while, smart little buggers. Got to be metal too or they will eat thru it. . Craig that was at a feed store.
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"A beach is a place where a man can feel he's the only soul in the world that's real"
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11-20-2008, 11:51 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
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the agway in i dunno, palmer i guess, has bulk seed in serve yourself barrels ...where ya make your own mix
just saying try a agway
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11-20-2008, 11:55 AM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Raven
the agway in i dunno, palmer i guess, has bulk seed in serve yourself barrels ...where ya make your own mix
just saying try a agway
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will do, next batch. The flying squirrels are the ones that clean me out. They don't weigh much more than a bird so they don't trigger the cover. They are pretty cool to observe though so I really don't mind too much.
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"A beach is a place where a man can feel he's the only soul in the world that's real"
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11-20-2008, 11:57 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 22,805
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i have a chipmonk livin in my kitchen
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11-20-2008, 12:02 PM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
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ALVIN !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Buy him a hula hoop
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"A beach is a place where a man can feel he's the only soul in the world that's real"
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11-20-2008, 12:05 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
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it's a dog toy..... gittem Star Gittem
great game.... 
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11-20-2008, 12:06 PM
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Old Guy
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Mansfield, MA
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[quote=ProfessorM;639527]will do, next batch. The flying squirrels are the ones that clean me out. They don't weigh much more than a bird so they don't trigger the cover. They are pretty cool to observe though so I really don't mind too much.[/quote
I have the Audubon squirrel guard on my post, the have never gone up past it
I use the weight sensitve feeders to keep the stupid morning doves away.
The cardinals love the weighted feeder also, it's the only one they use because the dowel is big enough for them to get their feet around and be steady.
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11-20-2008, 12:09 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
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cardinals prefer the safflower as do the nuthatches
i used to watch in amazement as this nut hatch would land on my roof and tuck a single saflower seed up in the crevice of each shingle one by one all day long...
by the way Paul, im kinda concerned about Clammer's new Sleigh......the thing hauls ass.... no reindeer needed. -> saw him taking it on a test drive.

Last edited by Raven; 11-20-2008 at 02:32 PM..
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11-20-2008, 04:03 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Burlington
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Raven
bj's is 17.99 i believe for the 50 lb. of black hull seed
best spot is always at a feed store
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They changed the bag weight to 40 pounds.....sneaky bastages 
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low & slow 37
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11-20-2008, 07:15 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Recently relocated to the shores of Rhode Island - East Bay!
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Check Christmas Tree Shoppes.
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11-20-2008, 08:27 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: on a rock
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Ocean State Job Lot usually has a pretty good price as well.
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Go Bears!
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11-20-2008, 08:40 PM
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Permanently Disconnected
Join Date: Nov 2002
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DO NOT store those bags inside your house...put them in a metal bin in a shed or something. We had the worst infestation of moths once from a bag of sunflower seeds it took an exterminator to get rid of them. They will hatch out of the sunflower husks and use the sunflower to feed on then when they escape out of the bag they will lay eggs EVERYWHERE inside clothes, in sleeves, you name it. MAN what a mess they made!!!
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11-21-2008, 06:03 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
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that happened to us once,,, back in the 80's except it was an old bag of rice....in an unused pantry.... to look at it you'd never know...little moths everywhere too.
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11-21-2008, 06:10 AM
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Registered User
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Location: RI
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Quote:
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
DO NOT store those bags inside your house...put them in a metal bin in a shed or something. We had the worst infestation of moths once from a bag of sunflower seeds it took an exterminator to get rid of them. They will hatch out of the sunflower husks and use the sunflower to feed on then when they escape out of the bag they will lay eggs EVERYWHERE inside clothes, in sleeves, you name it. MAN what a mess they made!!!
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Not to mention mice and rats, it is that time of year again.
-spence
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11-21-2008, 07:11 AM
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yea spence them too but we put ours in a metal trash can... opened it up in the basement and you woulda thought it was snowing moths...just the warmth in a closed space they will hatch...once one gets away your doomed. We haven't fed the birds since. We used to have a lot of fun doing it too.
I gotta get my kids to stop leaving the damn garage door open for the mice now grrrr
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11-24-2008, 07:49 AM
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Registered User
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Location: Maine
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My wife picks up bird seed at Walmart. 2 weeks ago it was $14 or so. Now it is over $18 for the same 50# bag.
My grandfather goes through approx 150#s a month. I actually hate it. My truck looks like a dalmation. Them little buggers crap on everything. We put up with it though as he can't do much else. Well that is except feed the dog....... we won't even get into that. 
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11-24-2008, 08:03 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
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walmart pissed me off
i used to buy seed from them because we had indoor birds. (they are Gone) Then suddenly they decided to move the bird seed right nest to the insecticides....in particular ....malathion 
which is nasty to have to breath while shopping.
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although Katee brand is quite good..., i no longer buy from them. Can't afford it this year.... first time i can remember in 30 years or so....
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Mac your GrandFather
would enjoy using less seed and setting up some suet feeders which you buy at the Christmas tree shops for 66 cents each...the squares... sold for $1.29- 1.99 elsewhere... and or you can grab the beef suet at the super market..
I have found it attracts more colorful birds that have no interest in seeds... even bluebirds that eat the tiny droppings underneath the pecker stations.
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11-24-2008, 08:30 AM
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Registered User
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Location: Maine
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I'm not sure he feeds the birds out of enjoyment. I think he feels it is something he has to do. I'm kind of surprised any of them can even fly as he feeds them between 5 and 8 times a day.
He has been using suet feeders for years. Main problem is the tree rats like it too. Last year one of them chewed the branch off that held the cage and carried it away. I hate them little buggers too.
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11-24-2008, 08:44 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 22,805
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translated
bird feeder = open border
slam the door shut i say....
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11-24-2008, 09:01 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Warwick
Posts: 541
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Quote:
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
yea spence them too but we put ours in a metal trash can... opened it up in the basement and you woulda thought it was snowing moths...just the warmth in a closed space they will hatch...once one gets away your doomed. We haven't fed the birds since. We used to have a lot of fun doing it too.
I gotta get my kids to stop leaving the damn garage door open for the mice now grrrr
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LOL! My wife is the garage door police. Drives me crazy when I do yardwork.
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11-24-2008, 11:51 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Hyde Park, MA
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I make it a habit to feed the birds primarliy in the late fall through early spring. After that, they "might" get a suet cake of some leftover seed, but I prefer to let them fend for themselves.
The main reason for stopping the bird seed gravy-train is that since the majority of the feeders are sparrows, I want them to do what they do best during the summer: eat bugs, lots and lots of bugs.
Sparrows LOVE mosquitos, and do a real good job of keeping them at bay.
If you are keen on bird watching, and want to cut down on the expense, build a few birdhouses (cheap and easy to build) and watch the bird population grow year by year.
We had one house on a tree in our front yard (tree recently removed) that had returning sparrows that raised successive generations of sparrows. You were able to see the parents return with beaks packed with bugs and see the young taking their fledgling flights. There are just a few specifics you need to be aware of.
1.) hole size. The entry hole size is specific for certain bird species.
2.) Reinforce the area around the entry hole with wire mesh or metal plate. Everyone will want to move into an "open house", and if that means enlarging the hole you started with, so be it. Heck, even the squirrels with try to move in.
With proper care and cleaning (annually) they will last for years.
I've had some that lasted close to 10 years, and then they needed some basic repairs.
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11-24-2008, 06:06 PM
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Registered Grandpa
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: east coast
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Karl F
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 guys gotta be from Joisey. 
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" Choose Life "
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11-24-2008, 10:14 PM
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Too funny! I'm native Joisey and even though he has that Soprano kind of thing going, I think he's a New Englander. He gave it away when he said "start", it came out Staht. Followed by "Bahbeque" and pwocket for "pocket". He would fit right in at our annual reunion though.
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11-25-2008, 03:32 PM
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Registered User
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Location: Back to C.Cod x'd Rangeley Me.
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Very Good Karl!.
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11-25-2008, 03:59 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Burlington
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Karl F
all the reasons i don't feed the birds are in there and on here.. the cost, the mess, the tree rats, (squirrels and chipminks), the mice, the non stop noise, and god forbid they find any empty they wil really squack.....chit qall over everything.. knocked it off years ago... and even one die hard bird loving bird feeding friend stopped becasue he had a "realization"... these are "wild" birds..should they not feed themselves???
now, i got the idiot neighbor with elaborate multiple feeding stations.. and non stop air rifle action with him killing the tree rats...(wtf...but..the guy has no brain)...o.. i love dead squirrels all over the yard, and pellets whistling thru the trees over my head... but.. like Forrest said... "Stupid is, as Stupid does"....
and don't tell me to call the cops...they is useless...
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Dead squirrels on the hood usually gets their attention.  After he plugs a few and finds them on his car he will be sure to get to them before you do. Is this the bad -ss next door? Can you get a couple on his motor block?? 
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12-14-2008, 09:59 PM
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The Bawston Whalah
Join Date: Jul 2007
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too bad he did'nt go on about the mawths
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