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08-13-2009, 05:59 PM
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Retired Surfer
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Spence a question for you
Why is it that no one wears short sleeve dress shirts anymore? If you go into a store thier aren't many even in stock. Its torture wearing a long sleeve dress shirt with color stays and a tie on, not to mention the sport coat, in the warm weather. Why did this become the norm?
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08-13-2009, 06:15 PM
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That's an interesting question. Perhaps the 1970's hip factor killed the geek image from the 50's and 60's. There was a lot of fashion rebellion in that decade (and thankfully, most of it is gone). At least the skinny tie made a comeback in the last decade
Today you really only see short sleeve button downs as very casual. Wearing a tie with a short sleeve shirt is ok only if you're 16 and working at a grocery store...but it's a look I wouldn't be caught dead in.
Actually, you'll never see me wearing a tie without a sport coat or suit either.
I nearly always wear a coat for business, and I agree it's brutal, especially as I travel down south a lot. During the worst of times I'll actually take a coat, carry it around and quickly put it on if I need.
I'll look around and see what I can find.
-spence
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08-13-2009, 06:47 PM
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short sleeve dress shirt and a CLIP-ON tie 
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08-13-2009, 07:56 PM
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Registered User
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Location: Cumberland,RI
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I still see lots of people who were short sleeve dress shirts.
I think JC Penny has some on sale now.
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Saltheart
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08-13-2009, 08:05 PM
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Old Guy
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Mansfield, MA
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I need a pocket protector too...
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08-13-2009, 08:56 PM
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Retired Surfer
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My only understanding so far is that the dress shirt itself became so expensive people who need to wear this attire for work started buying only the long sleeve especially since everywhere is air conditioned now.
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Swimmer a.k.a. YO YO MA
Serial Mailbox Killer/Seal Fisherman
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08-14-2009, 05:33 AM
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Super Moderator
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Location: Georgetown MA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slingah
a CLIP-ON tie 
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90% Rayon......
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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08-14-2009, 06:10 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
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the scifi look
because i watch scifi - now spelled syfy
i always notice the fashion statement of the future....
lately they have regressed back to the Naru jacket
speaking about the 70's....
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08-14-2009, 06:28 AM
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Another reason for long sleeves is that tattoos and short sleeve dress atire do not compliment each other unless maybe your a bouncer.
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08-14-2009, 10:52 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Hyde Park, MA
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polyester shirts, wide or thin ties, and button down collar.
Although I do like the "business casual" attire I wear today, I didn't mind the shirt and tie workplace.
What kills me is that EVERY YEAR our company has to remind some employees that sweatpants, spandex shorts, beach sandals, cut-off tee shirts and shorts are NOT business casual.
( I remember one incident a few years back when we only had casual Fridays, and one fairly attractive woman decided to wear spandex slacks to work for casual Friday. Someone had to point out that she was sporting a prominent "camel-toe". Needless to say, she did not repeat that wardrobe malfunction.
Lord, I think back to some of my own creative wardrobe choices, and I wince. I was just ahead of my time in funk and fashion I guess.
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08-14-2009, 12:12 PM
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Super Moderator
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FishermanTim
( I remember one incident a few years back when we only had casual Fridays, and one fairly attractive woman decided to wear spandex slacks to work for casual Friday. Someone had to point out that she was sporting a prominent "camel-toe". Needless to say, she did not repeat that wardrobe malfunction.
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I hope you took that person outside and kicked their ass.....somebody always has to ruin everybody elses good time
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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08-14-2009, 12:34 PM
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No self respecting guy would have said anything.... her fellow female associates on the other hand....
Then there was one other time when our manager, also a fairly attractive woman, decided to go with a farmer's overall type dress (picture a dress with bib-overall straps) and wore a tee shirt (and no support for "the girls"! 
Needless to say, the straps from the dress "corralled" her ponies quite nicely. Once again, she never wore that again.
Then there was the single mom that dressed like a tramp. She was a good employee and a good oerson, but sometimes her style took you by surprise.
By today's standards, it's kind of tame in comparison to the 80's and 90's.
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08-14-2009, 01:52 PM
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sick of bluefish
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: TEXAS
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
That's an interesting question. Perhaps the 1970's hip factor killed the geek image from the 50's and 60's. There was a lot of fashion rebellion in that decade (and thankfully, most of it is gone). At least the skinny tie made a comeback in the last decade
Today you really only see short sleeve button downs as very casual. Wearing a tie with a short sleeve shirt is ok only if you're 16 and working at a grocery store...but it's a look I wouldn't be caught dead in.
Actually, you'll never see me wearing a tie without a sport coat or suit either.
I nearly always wear a coat for business, and I agree it's brutal, especially as I travel down south a lot. During the worst of times I'll actually take a coat, carry it around and quickly put it on if I need.
I'll look around and see what I can find.
-spence
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wow - we totally agree on something!
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08-16-2009, 10:32 AM
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Registered Grandpa
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slingah
short sleeve dress shirt and a CLIP-ON tie 
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We need to nominate Matt as our new Fashion Police Czar. 
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08-20-2009, 12:16 PM
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President - S-B Chapter - Kelly Clarkson Fan Club
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I know this is kinda old, but I gotta chime in - I used to work with a milf type women who sat next to my cube who always had a thong on and I could always see it as she always on the edge of her seat! it killed me for like 2 years!
thank god nobody ever told her. now I have young co workers who love to show off cleavage - which is distracting to say the least!!
oh and as far as short sleave dress shirts, just roll up your sleaves ya nerd!
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08-20-2009, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Rockport24
I know this is kinda old, but I gotta chime in - I used to work with a milf type women who sat next to my cube who always had a thong on and I could always see it as she always on the edge of her seat! it killed me for like 2 years!
thank god nobody ever told her. now I have young co workers who love to show off cleavage - which is distracting to say the least!!
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I'm sorry but are you complaining?
My girlfriend gives me a hard time because I wear my sunglasses inside places like the Prudential Mall and on cloudy days when we go into Boston.
I learned that she was privy to what I was doing when I was facing forward but enjoying a view walking by on our left and she goes, "So how'd you like that one?"
We both had a laugh and to this day she jabs me, "Don't forget your sunglasses."
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08-20-2009, 01:14 PM
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President - S-B Chapter - Kelly Clarkson Fan Club
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no not complaining but it's hard ya know I don't want to be accused of harassment if I get caught staring! like Seinfeld said though, cleavage is like the sun, ya never look right at it!
LOL on the sunglass thing, that's a great trick, I'm gonna start wearing them at work.
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08-20-2009, 01:21 PM
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Registered User
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rockport24
LOL on the sunglass thing, that's a great trick, I'm gonna start wearing them at work.
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I never leave for the beach, Boston or any other outdoor event without them.
I can hear it now, "My eye doctor suggested I wear sunglasses at work because the fluorescent lighting is straining them."
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08-20-2009, 06:45 PM
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I'm going to a wedding next weekend.. I'm wearing a short sleeve dress shirt, clip on tie AND my sunglasses!!!!!! 
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08-20-2009, 09:02 PM
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Registered User
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slingah
I'm going to a wedding next weekend.. I'm wearing a short sleeve dress shirt, clip on tie AND my sunglasses!!!!!! 
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Slingah-na-na!
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He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself.
Thomas Paine
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08-21-2009, 01:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Backbeach Jake
Slingah-na-na!
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08-24-2009, 03:32 PM
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Registered User
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My favorite tie is between a clip on and full on tie. Look up zip ties (zipper ties?). They have a zipper they slide up and down on. Tats killed short sleeves. My shades have the mirror coating on them. Very little tint so i see well and no one sees my eyes.
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08-24-2009, 03:49 PM
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I went to an outdoor wedding yesterday and saw some people rockin' the short sleeve dress shirt look. There were even at least 3 guys with the short sleeve dress shirt and a tie. Even though it was about 90 degrees when we got there, I insisted on wearing my suit jacket and tie. I regretted that decision and immediately after the ceremony, I went up to the car and hung the jacket up. By the time the cocktail hour was over and everyone was in the tent for the meal, there was no one wearing a jacket and only about 10 guys with ties still on. My tie was off right after I finished eating. It was just brutal. There were even a couple of young kids running around shirtless in the grassy area next to the tent where the reception was.
All that being said, I'd rather be hot and uncomfortable than be comfortable and wearing a short sleeve shirt with a tie.
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Conservatism is not about leaving people behind. Conservatism is about empowering people to catch up, to give them tools at their disposal that make it possible for them to access all the hope, all the promise, all the opportunity that America offers. - Marco Rubio
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08-24-2009, 04:01 PM
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Registered User
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It's a wedding, sweat it out and then remove the coat and tie when it's appropriate.
That being said, I have a sweet linen/silk Zegna suit that I would have probably been wearing and looking/staying cool
-spence
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08-24-2009, 04:49 PM
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Registered User
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fishbones
All that being said, I'd rather be hot and uncomfortable than be comfortable and wearing a short sleeve shirt with a tie.
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Agreed 100%.
I just make sure to wear a good shirt underneath so the sweat doesn't soak through.
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08-24-2009, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyD
Agreed 100%.
I just make sure to wear a good shirt underneath so the sweat doesn't soak through.
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Spence would be proud of my shirt collection. Nothin but class and style.
I should have listened to my wife yesterday, though. I assumed it was an outdoor ceremony and indoor reception. My wife swears she told me the reception was under a tent outside. But evidently I wasn't listening then, either.
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Conservatism is not about leaving people behind. Conservatism is about empowering people to catch up, to give them tools at their disposal that make it possible for them to access all the hope, all the promise, all the opportunity that America offers. - Marco Rubio
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08-25-2009, 03:58 PM
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Callinectes sapidus
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This is related to the subject, so I'll post it here...
At my workplace, the wearing of shorts is prohibited. However, the women are allowed to wear Capri pants.
Based on the vast experience of our wonderful S-B Fashion Police, ....
How is the wearing of Capri pants looked upon when a man attempts to strut them down the runway?
I mean, what's so wrong about the Angus Young look?
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 ... it finally happened, there are no more secret spots
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08-25-2009, 04:08 PM
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Super Moderator
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I think you'd look simply MAHvelous Gilly 
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08-25-2009, 06:39 PM
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Callinectes sapidus
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(... in my sexiest Marilyn Monroe voice......Thanks BIG guy... 
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 ... it finally happened, there are no more secret spots
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