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09-21-2009, 07:39 AM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
Posts: 23,392
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Late Migration??
Any thoughts to whether its starting late this season???
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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09-21-2009, 07:50 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 489
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I think it's changed by a week or two overall in the past few years; it's just later in general now. Is this global warming?
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09-21-2009, 08:15 AM
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Respect your elvers
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: franklin ma
Posts: 3,368
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It's over...everybody missed it... 
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It's not the bait
At the end of your line
It's the fishing hole
Where all the fish is blind
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09-21-2009, 08:19 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Fork
Posts: 2,260
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Today is the last day of summer so how could it be a fall run if its still summer?  I think they are right on schedule.
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Originally Posted by Flaptail
"Throw plugs like we do that will cause them to suffer humility. Pogies make any fisherman look good when bass are around. Bait is easy."
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09-21-2009, 08:25 AM
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slow eddie
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 1,494
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water temp was 65 at the narry shoreline fri. out in 50ft. of water
long way to go.
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put them back alive. i do have grandkids.
as your hair gets whiter, your gear gets lighter.
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09-21-2009, 08:34 AM
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Geezer Gone Wild
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 3,397
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Quote:
Originally Posted by slow eddie
water temp was 65 at the narry shoreline fri. out in 50ft. of water
long way to go.
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Took my dogs to a beach up the Sakonnet for a swim early yesterday AM and saw the first big blitz of the season about 100 yds off the shingle...
Stuck my hand in the water for a temp check and it was high 60's if not 70 up there - out front it's not much cooler, maybe a couple of degrees depending
I'm thinking we're still running a couple of weeks late on everything this year
I'm ready for big baits to show any time soon but outside of yesterday morning it still feels - and fishes - like summer mode...
Picked up a nice old school honey lami I bought from some old SoCo geezer that I'm dying to christen, too... 
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"There is no royal road to this heavy surf-fishing. With all the appliances for comfort experience can suggest, there is a certain amount of hard work to be done and exposure to be bourne as a part of the price of success." From "Striped Bass," Scribner's Magazine, 1881.
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09-21-2009, 08:45 AM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
Posts: 35,270
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I beat the water for hours last night at a place that rarely leaves me stranded short of at least sacrificing of plugs or eels to bluefish but also puts out decent bass.
Nada. Only hit I had was when I misjudged the retrieve and hit myself in the forehead with my eel.
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~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers
Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.
Apocalypse is Coming:
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09-21-2009, 05:33 PM
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slow eddie
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 1,494
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i do resent being called an old geezer.
just got in from catching 6lb. blues. still in a bathing suit on the beach. waters warm still.
score card. eels 1, john r. 0. highlights at 11.
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put them back alive. i do have grandkids.
as your hair gets whiter, your gear gets lighter.
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09-21-2009, 05:37 PM
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Eels
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Cape Cod,MA.
Posts: 3,333
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October is the new September 
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Live bait sharp hooks and timing is all you need
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09-21-2009, 06:09 PM
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M.S.B.A.
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: I live in the Villiage of Hyannis in the Town of Barnstable in the Commonwealth of MA
Posts: 2,795
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I know a certain surfcaster predicted a late run and with only a week and a half left in Sept I think it was a good call.
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"It is impossible to complain and to achieve at the same time"--Basic Patrick (on a good day)
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09-21-2009, 07:27 PM
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Geezer Gone Wild
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 3,397
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Quote:
Originally Posted by slow eddie
i do resent being called an old geezer...
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My apologies, amigo - definitely a case of the pot calling the kettle black, I guess...
You're only as old as you feel...and tonite I'm feeling about 90+ and pretty creaky...
Got a dozen snappin' fresh eels on the back deck - maybe I just need to get over it and stretch it out a bit at the start of the drop... 
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"There is no royal road to this heavy surf-fishing. With all the appliances for comfort experience can suggest, there is a certain amount of hard work to be done and exposure to be bourne as a part of the price of success." From "Striped Bass," Scribner's Magazine, 1881.
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09-21-2009, 08:30 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: N.K.
Posts: 1,330
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Judging by the wave I took to the face the other morning in the dark on a rockpile in an UDL the water was warmer than the air by quite a bit.I couldn't believe how warm it was.I'd say a while to go but after last years early ending I'm not convinced the bass follow temps completely.There was rivers of bait last year in late Oct flowing out of the bay and toward ct without a fish under it.Could see it thick and clear as day.Time will tell ,keep your line wet as much as possible.Keep the yak loaded and ready at all times for the blitzes just out of reach.A good noreaster could flush the bays and push the herd down south faster.
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09-22-2009, 05:19 AM
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Trophy Hunter Apprentice
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: THE Other Cape
Posts: 2,508
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i'm hearing you on the tardiness factor.
my big producer is at least three weeks behind,
sux for The Cup!! although i had a herd of schoolies
thru there a few days ago, i've yet to sea the BITE that makes
me pound that spot and it's usually stacked full with lahhhge by now.
so far, nada! it's definitely more like summer. and where is the surf this year outside of the two Hurricanes? ALL weekend it was like glass out there,,,,,,,,,eerily calm/dead up THE Other Cape way,,,,,,,,and there's been many optimal moon tides that have given us flat seas this year. most of the spots i haunt require 2'-4' and higher to turn ON.
am going to PA this w/e to watch my nephew play football~~~
so i'll have to check it out the following w/e. keep at it, gents!
it is still mighty EARLY, and yer fish of a Lifetime is still lurking out there!!!

Last edited by BassDawg; 09-22-2009 at 09:41 AM..
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"The first condition of happiness is that the connection
between man and nature shall not be broken."~~ Leo Tolstoy
Tight Lines, and
Happy Hunting to ALL!
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09-22-2009, 08:41 AM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 10,824
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Going to be late. Fished the Canal last night for a lot of exercise and no fish. heard a few pops but very, very slow.
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No boat, back in the suds. 
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09-22-2009, 09:02 AM
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BuzzLuck
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Brockton
Posts: 6,414
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Few (striped) bass surfacing in Quick's Hole yesterday during morning high slack tide. The other bass (Black Sea) have moved back in force with numerous 12.5-18" hooked.
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09-22-2009, 09:16 AM
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Respect your elvers
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: franklin ma
Posts: 3,368
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Seriously, don't sit around waiting for the migration as they may not show in the same places/same time as years past. I've been experiencing slow to no production on big fish at all of my go to spots.
Be assured big fish are being taken in good quantities in some locations both by shore and boat, just not by me.
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It's not the bait
At the end of your line
It's the fishing hole
Where all the fish is blind
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09-22-2009, 09:25 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: New Bedford, MA
Posts: 91
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Guys,,, it is on full bore RIGHT NOW. Seriously. There are BIG bass plundering through, and more medium sized (20 - 30lb class) fish than you can shake a rod at. When you find them, please remember to be good stewards of the resource and practice catch & release if you don't need the meat.
I write this as I struggle to keep my eyes open at work, wishing I wasn't too sore and tired to go back out again tonight....
This one is from Friday night, and is small compared to what I experienced last night.....

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"For our discussion of surfcasting is no trifling matter, but is the way to conduct our lives….nobody untrained in fishing may enter my house." - Plato (c.428-c.348 BCE)
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09-22-2009, 12:42 PM
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Iggy
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Arlington
Posts: 67
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Elizabethans
Have had a tough week. Sunday we worked our tails off to find bass that would eat. Some fish around but seemed to be working shrimp hatches and did not want anything else. Wind and tide change and the blues were hitting anything that moved. Saw alot of real estate and it was a beauteous day!
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"If I knew I was going to live this long -
I woulda took better care of myself!"
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09-22-2009, 12:58 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Mid Coastal CT
Posts: 2,006
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Lots of teen sized fish starting to bunch up here in western CT. Deffinately a sign of improvement.
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09-22-2009, 01:14 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Ma/RI
Posts: 307
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The Fall run is here. Caught a bunch of 20 and 30lb fish last night till I ran out of eels. It was a blast been a while since I pulled a fish in every cast making Big just made it better. Still on the search for that 50 though.
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09-22-2009, 01:23 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 2,939
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I think your right. I'll be tossing eels and chourico tonight. Fat girls love chourico.
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09-22-2009, 01:29 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Ma/RI
Posts: 307
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especially the little plump ones from Fall River.
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09-22-2009, 03:27 PM
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Iggy
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Arlington
Posts: 67
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Can't we all just get along?
When you run into big blues, are you less likely to be able to get stripers in the same area? I was wondering if heavy competition drives them off...
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"If I knew I was going to live this long -
I woulda took better care of myself!"
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09-22-2009, 03:55 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2004
Location: South of Boston
Posts: 2,605
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A big slug has already moved through the ditch and around the tip. It will be wave after wave for the next few weeks until all that's left are the rats. Fish now.
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The charm of fishing is that it is the pursuit of what is elusive but attainable, a perpetual series of occasions for hope. ~John Buchan
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09-22-2009, 04:39 PM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
Posts: 35,270
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bronko
Fish now.
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Or don't and then wonder when the migration will be in 4 weeks.
"Where is everybody? Come on, guys, we're gonna miss the migration"
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~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers
Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.
Apocalypse is Coming:
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09-22-2009, 05:54 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Ma/RI
Posts: 307
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnR
Or don't and then wonder when the migration will be in 4 weeks.
"Where is everybody? Come on, guys, we're gonna miss the migration"
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LOL 
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09-23-2009, 04:14 AM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 10,824
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Busted my a$$ 4 nights straight in the Ditch for a few high teen to low 20# fish. Big fish are NOT there. I fished East to West with the tides and back the other way over the last 4 days.
Anyone who says they are hammering large in the Canal is full of it or very very lucky. I have talked to all the regs and no one is doing great. I don't count 20#ers as doing great.
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No boat, back in the suds. 
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09-23-2009, 05:18 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: New Bedford, MA
Posts: 91
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Quote:
Originally Posted by piemma
Big fish are NOT there.
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Tip. Then don't fish there. If I lived in RI, you'd be hard pressed to get me to fish the canal with so much productive water close by. Hell,,, I live in MA and would much rather drive to RI than fish the canal most of the time.
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"For our discussion of surfcasting is no trifling matter, but is the way to conduct our lives….nobody untrained in fishing may enter my house." - Plato (c.428-c.348 BCE)
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09-23-2009, 06:23 AM
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Trophy Hunter Apprentice
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: THE Other Cape
Posts: 2,508
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soooo, lemee get this straight!
we have several people saying that the big fish at their consistently
producing big fish udl's are off/slow from the Canal to Cape Ann,
we have one guy saying he's heard of some lahhhhge being landed but he hasn't done so himself,
we have one guy saying he's landed a COW in RI, KUDOS Jake, and
we have several guys saying they are landing teeners and 20#'ers regularily in MA ~somewheres. agreed piemma, not what we're looking for or referring to.
nobody is saying, "DON'T FEESH/WAIT for the Migration!" we simply are offering an anecdotal view as to the observed "Lack of Large" in places that have typically been known to produce them by this TIME of the migration. in short, for the most of us,,,,,,,,,,it's running a bit late, for most spots,,,,,,,,,,,,
by ALL means, keep pounding the surf, and i would be hitting it HARD were it not for my nephew's big game this Fri in CoalCountry, PA. why? because ya cain't catch, iffin ya don't wet a line! AND no one knows when the big gurls will come back to their familiar spots. we can only hope, hunt, and continue chunking/eeling/plugging away into the surf laden nights.

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"The first condition of happiness is that the connection
between man and nature shall not be broken."~~ Leo Tolstoy
Tight Lines, and
Happy Hunting to ALL!
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09-23-2009, 07:29 AM
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Geezer Gone Wild
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 3,397
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I dunno, the boat guys at a few locations are hammering some big fish according to some intel from last nite - may be taking a boat ride with the King of Clams to check it out
Monday nite I was out til 3 and it's starting to feel like somebody finally flipped the switch - it didn't have that summer feel although both air and water temps are still high for this time of year - just waiting for bigger baits - but it was definitely more active, which is why I was keeping burglar's hours
Autopsied the fish I kept for the grill and the stomach contents were nada even thought she had that plus-size shape...  ...
Hey, nothing wrong with a little junk in the trunk... 
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"There is no royal road to this heavy surf-fishing. With all the appliances for comfort experience can suggest, there is a certain amount of hard work to be done and exposure to be bourne as a part of the price of success." From "Striped Bass," Scribner's Magazine, 1881.
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