He's baaaaaaaaaack

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[The Dad Fisherman]

Kinda like Pee Wee Herman.....time heals all wounds

[buckman]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Kinda like Pee Wee Herman.....time heals all wounds

Very disrespectful analogy. But at least you didn't use Ted Kennedy

[JohnnyD]

Hopefully he'll drive himself off a bridge... just like Ted Kennedy did.

[Raven]

i'll never forget when he walked up to the microphone
just after a speech to go "shhhhhhuuuu"
....as if that was so hard

but what it said was: i am totally burnt OUT as President which was obvious and
..........i can't wait til it's Over

thats my lasting impression of him

[Duke41]

Go away W.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

Hopefully he'll drive himself off a bridge... just like Ted Kennedy did.

I'm glad you have done such great things in your life JD, that you can wish someone dead who history will prove has. I'm not saying he's perfect but he has done great things.

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by buckman

I'm not saying he's perfect but he has done great things.

Such as?

[buckman]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

Such as?

6+ years of good economy
keeping your ass safe since 9/11
reversing the spread of aids in Africa

JD, List yours here..................

[RIROCKHOUND]

I don't miss the man dead, and he wasn't 100% evil.

Seriously, I do believe W. believes he was doing the right thing with all of it (Iraq etc..)


But...

4400 dead on a wasted war (1 sniper was all was needed to remove Saddam!)
$720,000,000,000 and counting (this is Iraq only, I did support going into Afghanistan)


What I am interested in seeing is what went into the decisions he was making in throughout his terms, assuming the book isn't too revisionist....

[Duke41]

Never let a C student, even a Ivy Leauger lead the country again. Too stupid and he got played like Rock Around the Clock at a sock hop.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by buckman

Very disrespectful analogy. But at least you didn't use Ted Kennedy

I calls em likes I sees em

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

Hopefully he'll drive himself off a bridge... just like Ted Kennedy did.

sad

Originally Posted by Duke41

Go away W.

more my thinking

[ecduzitgood]

Originally Posted by Duke41

Never let a C student, even a Ivy Leauger lead the country again. Too stupid and he got played like Rock Around the Clock at a sock hop.

Please elaborate or are you just another Bush basher.

The war was necessary because the threat was real and even the democrats thought so until it was better/more convenient to say otherwise.

Hopefully some day the party affiliations will come to an end so people won't just blindly support the party that they associate themselves with and see nothing good when the other party has control. But then again the populous is easier to conquer when divided.

Where there WMD's????? YES, so the wasted war or war based on lies is nothing but an attempt to smear the reputation of the Republicans because it's not true which in my eyes makes it a lie , something that I see both parties doing too much of but when it comes to which party is worse for the country time will tell but my money is on the Dems eventually causing the fall of this nation.
http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripert...-his-mind.html
I have posted the facts before but lots of people prefer to be in denial

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by buckman

6+ years of good economy
keeping your ass safe since 9/11
reversing the spread of aids in Africa

JD, List yours here..................

The TK comment was a joke, probably in poor taste.

However,
- 6+ years of good economy followed by the worst recession in decades
- Possibly ignoring warning signs leading up to 9/11
- Illegally authorizing surveillance and eroding away at the Constitution
- Then there's that war to dethrone the guy who "tried to kill my daddy", based on WMDs that didn't exist

[ecduzitgood]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

The TK comment was a joke, probably in poor taste.

However,
- 6+ years of good economy followed by the worst recession in decades
Because of the refusal of the Dem's to listen to the Republicans who were trying to reign in Fanny Mae and Freddie Mac, thanks Barney Frank. Not to mention the dot com bubble popping that allowed Clinton to look good.


Possibly ignoring warning signs leading up to 9/11
I guess he should have gone to war sooner?

- Illegally authorizing surveillance and eroding away at the Constitution
Non of the other POTUS ever did anything like that did they. Who got hurt?

- Then there's that war to dethrone the guy who "tried to kill my daddy", based on WMDs that didn't exist

Either you are in denial or didn't click on the link so here is some of the FACTS.

Contrary to ongoing reports by mainstream media outlets, WMDs have been found in Iraq, so reports New York Times best-selling author Richard Miniter in his new book, Disinformation.

Consider these shocking facts:

• Found: 1.77 metric tons of enriched uranium

• Found: 1,500 gallons of chemical weapons

• Found: Roadside bomb loaded with sarin gas

• Found: 1,000 radioactive materials--ideal for radioactive dirty bombs

• Found: 17 chemical warheads--some containing cyclosarin, a nerve agent five times more powerful than sarin

This is only a partial list of the deadly weapons Miniter reveals in his new book, Disinformation. Miniter systematically dissects the "No-WMD Myth" (how it started, and why it continues), as well as 21 other War-on-Terror myths perpetuated by the media.

[The Dad Fisherman]

http://intelligence.senate.gov/phaseiiaccuracy.pdf

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by ecduzitgood

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Either you are in denial or didn't click on the link so here is some of the FACTS.

I didn't need to click the link, as I'm the one that replied to your "facts" in that thread and to how they were inaccurate.

TDF provided an interesting report you might want to read.

[ecduzitgood]

151 pages .....Thats going to take some time to reply. But in the end I will assemble all the facts to prove my point. I did not like Bush, but it wasn't just because he was a Republican it was because of his spending and lack of action on the part of the illegal immigration. I don't like either of the two parties but I am sick and tired of people using the same BS reasons to hate the man. Did you ever notice that the government always seems to get bigger and more intrusive especially when the Dems. are in control?

Although it may be futile after all the media has done such a good job of brainwashing people and my attempts to provide facts will most likely not change your mind.

Didn't we sell Iraq weapons of WMD?

Also lets say there weren't any WMD's how many times do our pilots have to be shot at before we take action?

Did the 6 months it took us to invade give them time to hide any WMD's?

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by ecduzitgood

151 pages .....Thats going to take some time to reply. But in the end I will assemble all the facts to prove my point. I did not like Bush, but it wasn't just because he was a Republican it was because of his spending and lack of action on the part of the illegal immigration. I don't like either of the two parties but I am sick and tired of people using the same BS reasons to hate the man. Did you ever notice that the government always seems to get bigger and more intrusive especially when the Dems. are in control?

Although it may be futile after all the media has done such a good job of brainwashing people and my attempts to provide facts will most likely not change your mind.

Didn't we sell Iraq weapons of WMD?

Also lets say there weren't any WMD's how many times do our pilots have to be shot at before we take action?

Did the 6 months it took us to invade give them time to hide any WMD's?

as someone who fought this battle for years, let it go. Its not worth it.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

I didn't need to click the link, as I'm the one that replied to your "facts" in that thread and to how they were inaccurate.

TDF provided an interesting report you might want to read.

I read the report and noted the sources and the main contributors. The report starts off stating that it very well could be incorrect. I'm not saying it is, just that it isn't the final word

Senate Intellegence

[ecduzitgood]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

I didn't need to click the link, as I'm the one that replied to your "facts" in that thread and to how they were inaccurate.

After reading over the other thread I do not want to appear condescending the way I did then (for which I apologize) but even you said in that thread they did exsist.

Post #24 in the other thread
"I haven't insisted Saddam "never possessed WMDs." The hundreds of thousands of Kurds killed by gas in the 80s proves that he possessed them at one point. However, there is little to no proof he built up stockpiles after inspectors left in 1998. The lead UN inspector had confirmed 90-95% of Saddam's weapons were destroyed - along with the other 5-10% more than likely destroyed prior to inspections"

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

as someone who fought this battle for years, let it go. Its not worth it.

Perhaps I should just wash my hands of this.

[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

I read the report and noted the sources and the main contributors. The report starts off stating that it very well could be incorrect. I'm not saying it is, just that it isn't the final word

So I guess you scored well in reading but lacked a bit with comprehension?

-spence

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

So I guess you scored well are reading but lacked a bit with comprehension?

-spence

Could you rewrite this sentence so I can read it?

[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

Could you rewrite this sentence so I can read it?

Fixed. Irony deleted.

-spence

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

Fixed. Irony deleted.

-spence

I got your point though

[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

I got your point though

I never doubted your misjudgment for even a second.

-spence

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

I never doubted your misjudgment for even a second.

-spence

your kinda funny today

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by ecduzitgood

After reading over the other thread I do not want to appear condescending the way I did then (for which I apologize) but even you said in that thread they did exsist.

Post #24 in the other thread
"I haven't insisted Saddam "never possessed WMDs." The hundreds of thousands of Kurds killed by gas in the 80s proves that he possessed them at one point. However, there is little to no proof he built up stockpiles after inspectors left in 1998. The lead UN inspector had confirmed 90-95% of Saddam's weapons were destroyed - along with the other 5-10% more than likely destroyed prior to inspections"


Perhaps I should just wash my hands of this.

Quite honestly, the American public may never know the exact details leading up to the invasion - regarding the motivation/information the CIA and Bush admin had, and with regards to what Saddam had in mind. For every memoir that "proves" Saddam didn't have any WMDs, there's one that has "proof" he did. In the end, we'll probably never know.

Politically, Health Care is Obama's Iraq. Both Bush and Obama have a single major political landmark that will define their presidency and become their legacy - for good or for bad. Some felt Bush's push to invade Iraq was justified, made this country safer and the world a better place, some felt it was an unjust war that cost far too much for little or no domestic gain. The same goes for Obama's health care push - some people see it as a necessity that will help the health of the country, while others see it as a huge waste of money with no real benefit.

The Left with criticize Bush for Iraq and praise Obama for Health Care, while the Right will criticize Obama's Health Care and praise Bush's Iraq. The dividends from each probably won't be realized for quite some time...

[ecduzitgood]

I agree, well said JD.....and HAPPY BIRTHDAY may you have many more!