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11-01-2010, 05:20 PM
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just found this (Interesting)
saw it online on a you tube short video
and it said try it yourself
so i did...
and you can to using GOOGLE Earth mapping
Just google earth "canary basin"
off the coast of Gibraltar --> Under water
what looks like the ruins of an ancient submerged city
this is what you'll see and i rotated it 10 degrees
to see the SQUARE of it....more defined
What do you think?

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11-01-2010, 05:24 PM
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BuzzLuck
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Not much the pictures did not come through??? Try to re-upload them.
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 Given the diversity of the human species, there is no “normal” human genome sequence. We are all mutants.
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11-01-2010, 05:28 PM
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BuzzLuck
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Is this the picture?
The caption read: "False hopes: Google said the grid-like markings, thought to reveal the location of mythical underwater city Atlantis, are an artifact of its map making process. But for a few hours this week, experts hoped the riddle may finally have been solved. More than six hundred miles off West Africa and more than three miles down lay a mysterious grid of lines that resembled the streets of a city."
What is interesting is what type of a mapping process artifact would yield the observation?
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 Given the diversity of the human species, there is no “normal” human genome sequence. We are all mutants.
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11-01-2010, 05:46 PM
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like the guy in Germany (comments ) said about Google's explanation
I don't believe it.
i can't sea why an underwater exploration
of the site wasn't warranted
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11-02-2010, 12:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Raven
like the guy in Germany (comments ) said about Google's explanation
I don't believe it.
i can't sea why an underwater exploration
of the site wasn't warranted
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Go for it! 
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11-02-2010, 04:27 PM
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a job for Cousteau
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11-02-2010, 05:51 PM
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Atlantis was concentric circles of alternating land and canals.
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11-03-2010, 07:29 AM
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Also known as OAK
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PRBuzz
What is interesting is what type of a mapping process artifact would yield the observation?
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When you are collecting bathymetry data with a multi-beam or other similar technology, you typically run parallel lines w/ a spacing at some multiple of water depth (depending on the equipment being used). Then you typically run tie-lines perpendicular at a wider spacing to make sure your accuracy is good in both directions.
At the center, an area of the data swath known as the 'nadir' there is often a slightly deeper or shallower area that is impacted by the angle of the sonar beams and can be tough to process, espeically with older systems and software. Similar issues can arise with the edges of survey lines (at the edge of the data swath being collected), however this looks like a nadir issue to me.
Raven,
keep dreaming man. looks like a valid explanation IMHO. Besides, like it was said, Atlantis was circular 
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Bryan
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"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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11-03-2010, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
Raven,
keep dreaming man. looks like a valid explanation IMHO. Besides, like it was said, Atlantis was circular 
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i never said i thought it was Atlantis... only that it looked like an underwater city.... the web site listed made the reference to Atlantis..
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11-03-2010, 11:44 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
When you are collecting bathymetry data with a multi-beam or other similar technology, you typically run parallel lines w/ a spacing at some multiple of water depth (depending on the equipment being used). Then you typically run tie-lines perpendicular at a wider spacing to make sure your accuracy is good in both directions.
At the center, an area of the data swath known as the 'nadir' there is often a slightly deeper or shallower area that is impacted by the angle of the sonar beams and can be tough to process, espeically with older systems and software. Similar issues can arise with the edges of survey lines (at the edge of the data swath being collected), however this looks like a nadir issue to me.
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Wow. look at the brain in Bryan!    
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11-03-2010, 01:39 PM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Raven
i never said i thought it was Atlantis... only that it looked like an underwater city.... the web site listed made the reference to Atlantis..
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That "city" would have the dimensions of a box that includes the entire area of CT, RI, LI sound, Long Island, including the waters from 40 miles south of Newport, RI, to JFK airport.
Or put another way, the "roads" depicted in the image are 5-6 miles wide and over 100 miles long.
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11-03-2010, 02:35 PM
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kinda makes you think .....well ..... thats impossible...
well so does the great pyramid
that has 2 MILLION stone blocks
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11-03-2010, 02:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Raven
kinda makes you think .....well ..... thats impossible...
well so does the great pyramid
that has 2 MILLION stone blocks
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And you could put 50 of them side by side to reach the width (not length) of one of those "roads"
Or another way to look at it, that "city" would be 125 percent of the entire area of the grand canyon.
Last edited by JohnR; 11-03-2010 at 06:19 PM..
Reason: forgot a 1 before the 25
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11-03-2010, 04:02 PM
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yeah, turns out it would be 86 miles square approximatively
definitely built by Aliens 
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11-03-2010, 05:45 PM
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Also known as OAK
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Originally Posted by MakoMike
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I've collected a mile or two of data in my time....
Looking at the Width of each of the 'roads' I bet those are individual, unprocessed or poorly processed data. Given the water depth, this could be the nadir depth I mentioned before, or just poorly interpolated signle lines. either way, artifact of surveying, not man or aliens.
if you pan your view in Google Earth east, zoomed at an eye elevation of about 350km you'll see other similar survey artifacts.
that, and given the water depth, this area has not been above sea-level since this portion of the ocean crust formed in the mesozoic.
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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11-03-2010, 07:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
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that, and given the water depth, this area has not been above sea-level since this portion of the ocean crust formed in the mesozoic.
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that's so prehistoric sounding
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11-04-2010, 11:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Raven
that's so prehistoric sounding
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Lets leave Bryan's fishing skills out of this. 
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11-04-2010, 11:49 AM
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I wish I had stupid money to burn. I'd be investigating that.
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