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View Poll Results: belly grommet preferencs
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counter sunk, unpainted
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55.17% |
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counter sunk , painted
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10.34% |
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flush,painted
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3.45% |
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flush unpainted
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12-02-2010, 09:46 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 25
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belly grommets...preference???
which look do you like when you build...flush, countersunk,painted,unpainted???
i prefer the counter sunk, painted look....
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12-02-2010, 10:07 AM
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Respect your elvers
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: franklin ma
Posts: 3,368
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Welcome robaloman.
There's a lot of info and good debate here on belly grommets. We did a thread not too long ago about belly grommets...let me see if I can dig it up and post it for you. Here it is:
http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripert...-grommets.html |
It's not the bait
At the end of your line
It's the fishing hole
Where all the fish is blind
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12-02-2010, 10:13 AM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
Posts: 23,392
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Countersunk and unpainted! Nothing makes a plug look more sloppy than one who's hardware is all painted over! Sure they might catch fish but......they look crappy! Sorry.....just my .02 cents and that combined with a buck fifty won't buy you a cup of coffee!
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Almost time to get our fish on!!! 
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12-02-2010, 10:53 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Derby, Ct.
Posts: 1,234
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigFish
Countersunk and unpainted! Nothing makes a plug look more sloppy than one who's hardware is all painted over! Sure they might catch fish but......they look crappy! Sorry.....just my .02 cents and that combined with a buck fifty won't buy you a cup of coffee!
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Me too...  |
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12-02-2010, 11:55 AM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
Posts: 14,773
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Absolutely hate the countersunk look. Form the grommet to the contour of the plug. I do what i like. Tomato, tomatto. All up to you.
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12-02-2010, 12:38 PM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Middleboro MA
Posts: 17,125
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I added one for Paul 
I like no grommet but when I do, I like countersunk unpainted |
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12-02-2010, 01:06 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Between the thighs
Posts: 559
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looks like poo counter sunk.
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12-02-2010, 02:39 PM
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Certified Mass-hole
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Jackson, NJ but born and raised in Massachusetts.
Posts: 1,223
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I think it depends on the plug. Countersunk (which is the wrong term).
Spotfaced (which is the correct term) is OK if it's a close fit with the outside diameter of the gromet.
I prefer to grometize and fit them to the radiius of the plug body.
FWIW, countersinking is what you do when you want the tappered head of a screw to be flush.  |
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12-02-2010, 03:13 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: the Dirty Jerz
Posts: 276
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prefer no belly grommets.
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12-02-2010, 03:22 PM
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><(((°> ><((( °> ><(((°>
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Falmouth, Ma
Posts: 1,520
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either or, but would love a "grommetizer", hint, hint, hint |
60 % of the time, it works every time.
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12-02-2010, 03:29 PM
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Captain Pete
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: CT
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Quote:
Originally Posted by johnny ducketts
either or, but would love a "grommetizer", hint, hint, hint |
me too! |
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12-02-2010, 03:50 PM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
Posts: 23,392
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Charleston
I think it depends on the plug. Countersunk (which is the wrong term).
Spotfaced (which is the correct term) is OK if it's a close fit with the outside diameter of the gromet.
I prefer to grometize and fit them to the radiius of the plug body.
FWIW, countersinking is what you do when you want the tappered head of a screw to be flush. |
Countersunk works fine.  |
Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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12-02-2010, 04:12 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: S. Jersey Shore
Posts: 912
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Charleston
I think it depends on the plug. Countersunk (which is the wrong term).
Spotfaced (which is the correct term) is OK if it's a close fit with the outside diameter of the gromet.
I prefer to grometize and fit them to the radiius of the plug body.
FWIW, countersinking is what you do when you want the tappered head of a screw to be flush. |
I like Counterbored ....But sometimes I spotface
Last edited by Sgt Striper; 12-02-2010 at 04:45 PM..
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 "The lips stand out because she wants to suck on your Pikie."....Mike Laptew
Van Staal Service/Repair Technician
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12-02-2010, 04:31 PM
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Canceled
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: vt
Posts: 13,425
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No grommet, bevel the edges of the hole. FWIW
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12-03-2010, 07:26 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Reading Mass/Newburyport/merrimack river
Posts: 3,748
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depends of the grommet.... the ones with the ultra thin lip IMHO need to be counter bored...spot face or couter sunk.. or they look like a silver turd hanging off the bottom of the plug.. the larger flange type, look much better formed around the plug .. counter whatevering just hogs a big sloppy looking hole in the plug...
grommetless IHHO can lead to water entering through the endgrain after just a few encounters with the fish ones ... and after all.. the original "cup" hardware was used by by creek chub and heddon to counter act problems of water intrusion through the belly hole end grain...not for show...
Just my thoughts .. Tomato....tomatto.
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12-03-2010, 12:09 PM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
Posts: 14,773
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Mr. Bill is right. For anyone that really cares.  Counter bored is what i would consider the correct term as most go past the spotface term in depth. Spot face usually only goes deep enough for the complete dia. to be had, no deeper. Counter sunk is for flat head screws, usually at 82 degree's. I called it countersunk because that is what most call it so i did not want to confuse anyone. Another useless information post by me, . Carry on. |
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12-03-2010, 12:58 PM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
Posts: 23,392
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigFish
Countersunk works fine. |
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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12-03-2010, 12:59 PM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
Posts: 23,392
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Painted hardware is losing the battle!!! |
Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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12-03-2010, 02:21 PM
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Respect your elvers
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: franklin ma
Posts: 3,368
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Quote:
Originally Posted by johnny ducketts
either or, but would love a "grommetizer", hint, hint, hint |
I'll post some pics of my poor man's grommetizer. All you need is a curved piece of metal and a trailer pin with a hole the size of your grommet...you'll be an instant pro...  |
It's not the bait
At the end of your line
It's the fishing hole
Where all the fish is blind
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12-03-2010, 05:16 PM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
Posts: 14,773
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Quote:
Originally Posted by johnny ducketts
either or, but would love a "grommetizer", hint, hint, hint |
just borrow the one I got to Jim, biteme, He probably never uses it . take it home for a weekend and do a crap load of them all at once. |
"A beach is a place where a man can feel he's the only soul in the world that's real"
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12-03-2010, 09:07 PM
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><(((°> ><((( °> ><(((°>
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Falmouth, Ma
Posts: 1,520
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True, I may just give him a plug or two, for borrowing it.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
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12-13-2010, 08:12 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 13
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Could we see pics of the grometizer? I would love to make one....
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
Last edited by CapnBill; 12-13-2010 at 08:17 PM..
Reason: miss spelled
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12-13-2010, 08:38 PM
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Captain Pete
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: CT
Posts: 936
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CapnBill
Could we see pics of the grometizer? I would love to make one....
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
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I'ld like to find one to buy. |
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12-13-2010, 08:40 PM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
Posts: 14,773
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thought I put up pics before
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12-13-2010, 08:45 PM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
Posts: 14,773
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http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripert...ommitizer.html
here is one G did several years back.
I just drill holes a small amount under the size of the grommet into a 3/4" dia. piece of stainless steel and insert grommet and then use a rubber hammer to slam them down into shape. Lu has a similar one but uses a mating piece over the 3/4" dia. piece so he can slam a few down at once. All work. Very simple. If this is not sufficient I will take some pics on Wed. and post.
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