Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

     

Left Nav S-B Home FAQ Members List S-B on Facebook Arcade WEAX Tides Buoys Calendar Today's Posts Right Nav

Left Container Right Container
 

Go Back   Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating » Striper Chat - Discuss stuff other than fishing ~ The Scuppers and Political talk » The Scuppers

The Scuppers This is a new forum for the not necessarily fishing related topics...

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 12-13-2011, 08:53 PM   #1
JohnR
Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
iTrader: (1)
 
JohnR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
Posts: 35,270
Blog Entries: 1
Kid wants a guitar for XMas

Good beginner route to go for a kid - 11 - will take lessons - suggestions?

I'm seeing this as a good starting point for kids:

http://www.amazon.com/Squier-Fender-...ductPromotions

~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~

Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers


Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.


Apocalypse is Coming:
JohnR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2011, 08:59 PM   #2
blondterror
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
blondterror's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Lexington, MA
Posts: 1,940
all my guitar playing friends say start with an acoustic then go electric

The taylor travel guitar is a fav among guitar people

Taylor Guitars ? Model BT1

Blond Terror
blondterror is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2011, 09:09 PM   #3
chefchris401
Chris Blouin
iTrader: (4)
 
chefchris401's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Warren, RI
Posts: 3,330
John get an electric!

When I started playing bass at age 11 I got a 3/4 neck size.

Get something comfortable and half way decent.

You're going to have to take him with you to see what fits.

He's at that age where he you might be better off getting him a full size, really depends on his height/arm length.

Plus that will save you money when he grows out of the 3/4 in 6 months.

You can get killer package deals this time of year. Get a small amp that has a head phone jack so he can play and not disturb any one.

Get a crate amp and entry level name brand guitar that way it's worth something if he sticks with it and wants to upgrade or if he doesn't you can recoup some money.

A lot of the good shops will sell you a package, guitar, amp, strap, case, some books and lessons.

Good luck and rock out!
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
chefchris401 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2011, 09:16 PM   #4
JohnR
Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
iTrader: (1)
 
JohnR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
Posts: 35,270
Blog Entries: 1
OK, teasing a little more info out, he wants an accoustic (and I'll keep an eye out for an Electric )

This has good reviews for a 3/4 size : Ibanez IJV30 Quickstart 3/4 Acoustic Guitar Pack and more Value Package Acoustic Guitars at GuitarCenter.com.

Full size might be a bit much and $120 now is still $80 next year if he goes bigger... Hmmmm

Perhaps I'll drag him to Guitar center - though that would spoil any surprise...

~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~

Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers


Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.


Apocalypse is Coming:
JohnR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2011, 09:27 PM   #5
JohnnySaxatilis
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
JohnnySaxatilis's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: South Central
Posts: 1,280
Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnR View Post
Perhaps I'll drag him to Guitar center - though that would spoil any surprise...
Don't worry about the suprise spoiling. coming from a recently former kid; you know what would be a bigger suprise? dad being all excited to give you a suprise and the suprise not being what you wanted.... lol take him to the store!

something clever and related to fishing
JohnnySaxatilis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2011, 09:46 PM   #6
Stewie
Scarecrow
iTrader: (0)
 
Stewie's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: bedford ma
Posts: 637
^^^^^ Listen to this guy. He knows stuff.

.......Elvis Lives
Stewie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2011, 06:06 AM   #7
The Dad Fisherman
Super Moderator
iTrader: (0)
 
The Dad Fisherman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Georgetown MA
Posts: 18,203
Try Craigslist...I got my daughter one 2 years ago, you can usually save a few bucks.

just because they say they want to learn doesn't mean they are going to stick with it. I wouldn't want to invest in something that may end up being a dust collector in 2 months....if he sticks with it and shows a passion for it then you can invest in getting him a nicer one later for X-Mas or his B'Day

"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
The Dad Fisherman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2011, 07:26 AM   #8
mosholu
Mosholu
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: NYC
Posts: 440
I think you should take him to the store to select his. As a not very good player I can testify an important part of your interest in the guitar is your connection with the instrument and I think that it would be enhanced by having him select it.
I do have a baby taylor and it is a great guitar but I think that is a purchase you may want to wait on until like Dad says you are pretty sure the child will stay with it.
mosholu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2011, 07:29 AM   #9
Raven
........
iTrader: (0)
 
Raven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 22,805
Blog Entries: 1
how long are the fingers?
Raven is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2011, 08:00 AM   #10
JohnR
Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
iTrader: (1)
 
JohnR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
Posts: 35,270
Blog Entries: 1
Thanks for the info - I'm not dropping $400 on a baby taylor that may or may not get used (though it may get used by me ). I do appreciate the quality and reputation but if he wants something like that he must earn it like his XBOX and DS and other game stuff - earn with good grades. $120 is risky enough on whether he'll use it or not.


Thanks

~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~

Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers


Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.


Apocalypse is Coming:
JohnR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2011, 09:44 AM   #11
Bill L
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
Bill L's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: SOCO
Posts: 1,995
I you have XBOX, I have heard good things about learning to play with Guitar Smith (I think that was the name)
Bill L is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2011, 10:45 AM   #12
Swimmer
Retired Surfer
iTrader: (0)
 
Swimmer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Sunset Grill
Posts: 9,511
Love the ad on tv when the kid starts playing on his air guitar in the apartment building, whereever, and the father goes in and turns off the juice. Ya know the one I mean, the asian family. The kid is a pretty good actor. I can see it now. He will be jamin with Point Jude Joe in a few years. Just think of the excuse you'll have for going for a beer. But honey Liam is playing there tonight.

Swimmer a.k.a. YO YO MA
Serial Mailbox Killer/Seal Fisherman
Swimmer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2011, 02:09 PM   #13
Saltheart
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
Saltheart's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Cumberland,RI
Posts: 8,555
I think I have an acoustic somewhere and you can have it free if you want. Let me know and I'll go looking for it if you want it.

Lessons are worth the money and also if you are paying for lessons you can insist he practices. Some instruction and lots of time practicing is what does the trick.

Personally I think the piano is the instrument to start on for a kid but its not cool like a guitar.

Saltheart
Custom Crafted Rods by Saltheart
Saltheart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2011, 02:25 PM   #14
RIJIMMY
sick of bluefish
iTrader: (1)
 
RIJIMMY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: TEXAS
Posts: 8,672
John - I think you know but I've played and taught for over 25 yrs. The very best deal you can get IMHO is this Hohner. I bought it for my daughter and I play it all the time. for the price it cant be beat. I did a lot of research and it always get great reviews. strongly reccomend it!

Hohner HW03 3/4 Size Acoustic Guitar: Shop Guitars & Other Musical Instruments | Musician's Friend

making s-b.com a kinder, gentler place for all
RIJIMMY is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2011, 07:42 PM   #15
bart
Red Eye Jedi
iTrader: (0)
 
bart's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: East Facing
Posts: 4,374
Liam and Ethan (Joe's son) should start a band.
bart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2011, 08:32 PM   #16
Nebe
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
Nebe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Libtardia
Posts: 21,692
Quote:
Originally Posted by RIJIMMY View Post
John - I think you know but I've played and taught for over 25 yrs. The very best deal you can get IMHO is this Hohner. I bought it for my daughter and I play it all the time. for the price it cant be beat. I did a lot of research and it always get great reviews. strongly reccomend it!

Hohner HW03 3/4 Size Acoustic Guitar: Shop Guitars & Other Musical Instruments | Musician's Friend
X2... I twang on one of these from time to time. If it gets trashed, it's not the end of the world.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
Nebe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2011, 08:33 PM   #17
JohnR
Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
iTrader: (1)
 
JohnR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
Posts: 35,270
Blog Entries: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saltheart View Post
I think I have an acoustic somewhere and you can have it free if you want. Let me know and I'll go looking for it if you want it.

Lessons are worth the money and also if you are paying for lessons you can insist he practices. Some instruction and lots of time practicing is what does the trick.

Personally I think the piano is the instrument to start on for a kid but its not cool like a guitar.
Might take you up on that

Quote:
Originally Posted by RIJIMMY View Post
John - I think you know but I've played and taught for over 25 yrs. The very best deal you can get IMHO is this Hohner. I bought it for my daughter and I play it all the time. for the price it cant be beat. I did a lot of research and it always get great reviews. strongly reccomend it!

Hohner HW03 3/4 Size Acoustic Guitar: Shop Guitars & Other Musical Instruments | Musician's Friend
How about a Classical? Sized in between the 3/4 and the Dreadnaught? Size wise That seemed good because he is almost 5' now

~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~

Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers


Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.


Apocalypse is Coming:
JohnR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2011, 03:27 AM   #18
Saltheart
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
Saltheart's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Cumberland,RI
Posts: 8,555
Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnR View Post
Might take you up on that



How about a Classical? Sized in between the 3/4 and the Dreadnaught? Size wise That seemed good because he is almost 5' now
I'll try to find it!

5 feet tall! Wow.

Saltheart
Custom Crafted Rods by Saltheart
Saltheart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2011, 09:33 AM   #19
JohnR
Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
iTrader: (1)
 
JohnR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
Posts: 35,270
Blog Entries: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saltheart View Post
I'll try to find it!

5 feet tall! Wow.
Cool

Yes - he is growing. Almost as tall as his mom, just turned 11.

~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~

Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers


Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.


Apocalypse is Coming:
JohnR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2011, 10:30 AM   #20
RIJIMMY
sick of bluefish
iTrader: (1)
 
RIJIMMY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: TEXAS
Posts: 8,672
ClassicaL guitars have nylon strings and are specialized. I doubt thats what he has in mind. You want a steel string acoustic.
I play this guitar and its size is not a problem. The fretboard is smaller and its easier for a kids hands. This one would work for a few years. If you want full size, yamaha makes good inexpensive guitars.
Send me any you're interested in and I'll give you my 2 cents.

making s-b.com a kinder, gentler place for all
RIJIMMY is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2011, 01:51 PM   #21
Saltheart
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
Saltheart's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Cumberland,RI
Posts: 8,555
PM sentOK I found it! It has no strings but a cheap set is like $9 at guitar world. This guitar came with classical nylon strings (which produce a nice tone IMO but when the first one broke I got a new set of metal strings that worked fine.

I'll PM you so we can meet and get the guitar to you.




PM sent

Last edited by Saltheart; 12-15-2011 at 01:56 PM.. Reason: PM sent

Saltheart
Custom Crafted Rods by Saltheart
Saltheart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2011, 02:13 PM   #22
RIJIMMY
sick of bluefish
iTrader: (1)
 
RIJIMMY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: TEXAS
Posts: 8,672
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saltheart View Post
PM sentOK I found it! It has no strings but a cheap set is like $9 at guitar world. This guitar came with classical nylon strings (which produce a nice tone IMO but when the first one broke I got a new set of metal strings that worked fine.

I'll PM you so we can meet and get the guitar to you.




PM sent
you should not spend more the $5 for a pack of strings. I wouldnt restring a classical with steel, the pegs are different.

making s-b.com a kinder, gentler place for all
RIJIMMY is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2011, 07:16 PM   #23
Saltheart
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
Saltheart's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Cumberland,RI
Posts: 8,555
For this guitar I think the tones are better with the nylon strings.

Saltheart
Custom Crafted Rods by Saltheart
Saltheart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2011, 05:47 AM   #24
vineyardblues
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
vineyardblues's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 3,595
guitar will be cheap my friend , Now lets talk about classes $$$
vineyardblues is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2011, 10:35 AM   #25
RIJIMMY
sick of bluefish
iTrader: (1)
 
RIJIMMY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: TEXAS
Posts: 8,672
Quote:
Originally Posted by vineyardblues View Post
guitar will be cheap my friend , Now lets talk about classes $$$
I think some beginner lessons are helpful to get acclimated to the instrument but today there is SO much info and lessons on youtube you could spend an enternity learning new things. Back when I was a kid (circa 1985) and learning, my friends and it would huddle over guitar magazines and work out songs for hours. It really comes down to your own motivation.
Guitarists get all the babes and that was motivation enough for me.

making s-b.com a kinder, gentler place for all
RIJIMMY is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2011, 01:05 PM   #26
Scuttlebutt
Guess what...
iTrader: (0)
 
Scuttlebutt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: A drinking town with a fishing problem...
Posts: 113
I started out with an acoustic and played that for a year or so. One thing good about this approach is that the acoustic really gets your fingers in shape. So when you switch over to the electric everything seems easier and more comfortable. However the cool factor is missing with the acoustic. You don't get cool things like reverb, distortion and chorus. My choice would be go for the electric. the Fender Squire series is a great choice. I can hear Hells Bells already..Hahaha
Scuttlebutt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2011, 05:12 PM   #27
jredfly
Bait Boy's Dad
iTrader: (0)
 
jredfly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: South Shore MA
Posts: 744
My left-handed 13 old daughter wanted an acoustic guitar so that can be good or bad in the used market (limited choices but less buyers). I just picked up a cutaway that looked like new locally on craiglist for $50.00 (usually retails for $150). From the research I saw it said the solid top models (which this is not) were better but this one looked nice and I think she will like it. Not a bad starter or kick-around one if she wants to take it places. I never played the guitar and haven't a clue but I must say I was really taken back at how beautiful the wood and craftsmanship were in the ones I saw. The reviews on the Washburn D10s looked pretty good for value/quality, maybe if she sticks with it that will be next years gift.

May the holes in your net be no larger than the fish in it - Irish Blessing
jredfly is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:07 PM.


Powered by vBulletin. Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Please use all necessary and proper safety precautions. STAY SAFE Striper Talk Forums
Copyright 1998-20012 Striped-Bass.com