No more Race Point??

[Rappin Mikey]

I read in the paper this weekend that massive cuts to National Parks are on the way. They spoke specifically about The Cape Cod National Seashore closing "vast portions of THE Great Beach" in order to protect birds. It sounded permant as they would have no one to patrol the beaches protecting them. Even though the fishing isn't like what it used to be. I still caught fish, and loved to bring the family there anyway.

[tattoobob]

I don't think they're going to close the Beach, They did talk about closing the visitor center

[Raven]

who would stop you

[piemma]

Raven has a valid point. If the visitors center is closed and there are no rangers to patrol, who's gonna stop you?

[The Dad Fisherman]

I read this in an article and it made me chuckle....

"Our National Park Service tells us our National Park Service can't be cut or the world will end.

Our national parks were created to preserve nature, undisturbed by man. Now we are told that if we leave nature untouched, it will perish. When did the essential ingredients of biological existence become oxygen, water, sunlight and federal funding? Apparently, the Grand Canyon will cease to be a hole in the ground if the National Park Service loses a few cents of every dollar it has been given."

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by Rappin Mikey

I read in the paper this weekend that massive cuts to National Parks are on the way. They spoke specifically about The Cape Cod National Seashore closing "vast portions of THE Great Beach" in order to protect birds. It sounded permant as they would have no one to patrol the beaches protecting them. Even though the fishing isn't like what it used to be. I still caught fish, and loved to bring the family there anyway.

Scaremongering. Even if the mandatory cuts do take place, federal spending will still be higher this year than last year. All these doom and gloom stories everywhere if we encounter the sequester - yawn.

Just another artificial crisis created by the federal government. Something will pass at 11:59pm the night before - a resolution that will kick the can down the road to sometime around the summer right before elections - rinse and repeat.

[MAKAI]

The guy who put " rinse and repeat " on a shampoo bottle just might be the smartest man there ever was.
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[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by Raven

who would stop you

A gate would be the first thing that comes to mind.

[Uncle Matt]

Gates and locks just slow you down. It doesn't mean no - it merely just a suggestion. To the dedicated person, there is always a way. Don't let a gate or a lock discourage you. Focus and stick to your game plan. Conquer it and put your own lock on it when you go through it.

[piemma]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

A gate would be the first thing that comes to mind.

Come on Chris. They use to fence off everything West of the Mission Bell and we still fished Laures, 2tns Hole and Peaked Hill every night. You can find a way around any gate or fence.

[Raider Ronnie]

It will always be open coming from the west (boat). :-p
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[Jackbass]

I can't imagine the parks giving up the ORV Revenue that essentially costs them nothing.

I agree this is essentially scaremongering to justify a tax hikes on the federal level. The White House also recently released a list of sequestration cuts by state. All the usual heart string stuff. 1 education 2 special education 3 Fire Services 4 job assistance etc, etc.
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[Jackbass]

Regardless of that if they do shut it down my wife will miss the truck bar and I will need to buy a lighter beach chair
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[Guppy]

Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie

It will always be open coming from the west (boat). :-p
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And south
This reminds me,,, jiged up a lure up there last August,,, lose one?

[JohnR]

Welcome to the Government you voted for - both parties.

Reckless spending over decades to get us here, reckless finger-pointing the past few years to make sure we stay here.

We don't have the government we need but we do have what we deserve.

[Raider Ronnie]

A Raider plug ?

Originally Posted by Guppy

And south
This reminds me,,, jiged up a lure up there last August,,, lose one?

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[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by Jackbass

I can't imagine the parks giving up the ORV Revenue that essentially costs them nothing.

"Essentially costs them nothing"? Considering the 3-5 glorified Rent-a-Cops working any one time on the Race - indiscriminately checking coolers for alcohol, harassing fishermen, giving tickets for going 33MPH in a 30 or sitting in your truck to take a break and have a sandwich while night fishing... I'd hardly say it costs nothing. Those idiots need to get paid and I'd bet the 1500 stickers (if they even sold that many last year) barely cover the expenses of hiring two of those idiots for the season.

[The Dad Fisherman]

The Rangers down there are more than likely Temporary Employees, not Permanent. With the Sequestration and the Furloughs coming down, the Temp Employees are the 1st to go before the furloughs will kick in. Pentagon just layed off 46,000 Temps.

So there probably won't be any rangers available to monitor the area. Not sure if the people manning up the visitors center are Temporary employees too....but if they are they will be let go as well.

So take that info for what its worth....but it is realistic that the only thing they will have is gates

[Guppy]

Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie

A Raider plug ?

Sorry, nope, Gup

[piemma]

Originally Posted by Uncle Matt

Gates and locks just slow you down. Conquer it and put your own lock on it when you go through it.

Funny stuff. We did that for years at the Dunes Club in narragnasett. Then they put a big padlock with a combination on it. We figured out the combination and just drove in an out at will.

[2na]

CCNS North district is self funded via sticker income and will be fine. As JD states it is simply scaremongering.

The South district (basically Ballston south to Nauset) doesn't have any revenue source besides parking lots and will be subject, but again,it's BS.

see ya out there Mikey - how's fatherhood?

[Fiske27]

They will just Stop Issueing ORV Permits,Put a Gate up,But keep full force Patrol of the Area. Doesn't make Any Sense?

[Mr. Sandman]

Originally Posted by JohnR

Welcome to the Government you voted for

YEP! I hope they do shut it down, it is the only way people who vote the same way each election will realize that there are consequences for their actions.

[Rappin Mikey]

Originally Posted by 2na

CCNS North district is self funded via sticker income and will be fine. As JD states it is simply scaremongering.

The South district (basically Ballston south to Nauset) doesn't have any revenue source besides parking lots and will be subject, but again,it's BS.

see ya out there Mikey - how's fatherhood?

I love it so far. The only time I've ever had anything but a fish pic on my phone wallpaper. I missed seeing you guys like I'm used to last year. But will see you a bit more I think this year. Thank God she looks like Trishy. That is all I have to say. She is a doll in the fullist. Just keep those grren cans away from her for a while please.

[Green Light]

OMG.

[Mr. Sandman]

CCNS is not carried by fees and stickers...the dept of the interior does most of the heavy lifting with something like annual 7.5 mil support. It is a national park. Fees also do not cover the operation of the Province Lands Visitor Center, the Seashore's seasonal visitor center in Provincetown, which makes it a target for closure this summer

The cut would only be a few hundred K so that is not a major impact but anytime you take money away from dems they complain the world is coming to an end.