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04-18-2013, 07:03 AM
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END the FDA
they are less effective than the U.N.
so take Notice
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The FDA Fails to Protect American Consumers
According to a study done by the Environmental Working Group, levels of PCBs in farm-raised salmon were 4.5 times higher than the upper limit set forth by the FDA for weekly consumption of fish. According to EPA standards, farm-raised salmon should have a warning label advising people not to eat it more than 1x per month due to the toxic levels of PCBs it contains. So why hasn’t there been a warning issued?
Well, the EPA only sets standards for wild-caught salmon. It is the FDA’s job to set the standard for commercially raised fish, and their standard is 500x less protective when it comes to PCB levels. No surprise that, once again, the FDA has failed to protect Americans from harm in favor of giving big business a break.
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04-18-2013, 07:05 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Libtardia
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Damn. I love those thick farm raised Atlantic salmon filets.
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04-18-2013, 07:35 AM
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you can have some ASIAN shrimp with them on the side Nebe
you know...the ones with the chicken coop above them
to add extra flavor.
note: less than 5% of imported seafood is inspected
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04-18-2013, 07:38 AM
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I only eat wild caught shrimp. But I love that salmon.
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04-18-2013, 11:18 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Hyde Park, MA
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If I wanted to eat a cardboard box, I'd eat a cardboard box, not something posing as a "healthy" fish!
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I am a legend in my own mind!
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04-19-2013, 09:27 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2008
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The FDA approves things based on research that the companies applying for approval submit to them. I always though the FDA did their own research before approving things. It's pretty scary how things actually get FDA approval if you do some research. FDA approved can really mean nothing at all.
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04-20-2013, 07:39 AM
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Eels
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Cape Cod,MA.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nebe
I only eat wild caught shrimp. But I love that salmon.
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Did you know that they put a dye in their food pellets it will give them that rich pink look.
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Live bait sharp hooks and timing is all you need
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04-20-2013, 07:56 AM
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GrandBob
Join Date: Apr 2001
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I don't think anybody wants to go back to pre-FDA times, but it has always needed fixin and likely always will. Funding for the FDA always seems to be political football at its finest, and that does not help. They have been doing better since W, but it is the government.
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04-20-2013, 08:00 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Libtardia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 5/0
Did you know that they put a dye in their food pellets it will give them that rich pink look.
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Yes. They do it to beef too.
I eat very well lately. I dont eat any beef, only bison.. Eat lots of veggies and even tofu, and will eat lots of fresh caught by me fish this summer, but I will still buy a big slab of salmon once in a while. It's not going to kill me. I should also mention that I buy the farm raised salmon from Norway at whole foods.
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04-21-2013, 06:02 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
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my "GOOD" cholesterol is WAY to low -say the heart DOC's
but i've never been a fan of Salmon
to oily tasting for me... same as NON albacore tuna
taking the fish oil pills is of no help because i seem to always
burp it endlessly and thus completely hate it....
there's an emulsified fish oil product i tried at the health food store
with a really NICE demo lady.... and that's my next purchase
since you cannot taste the fish oil period
cows that ate radioactive grass (west coast) after JAPAN's tsunami
and subsequent nuclear melt down ....after a cloud drifted over here
ended up having tainted milk.
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04-22-2013, 08:39 AM
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D'oh
Join Date: May 2004
Location: RI
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there are more PCBs in butter, beef, or milk than farm raised salmon. and the "dye" they put in the feed is the same compounds that they naturally eat (astraxanthin and others) that make them pink in the wild.
if you really want to pick an argument with salmon, find a real one, like how many forage fish are killed to make the feed. that is probably the only "real" issue with farmed salmon. But it doesn't resonate with the commoner, so the aniti-salmon groups drum up non-stories like PCBs & dye which sound way more scarier... yawn...
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i bent my wookie
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04-22-2013, 10:33 AM
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Not Jack
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Other Cape
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zacs
there are more PCBs in butter, beef, or milk than farm raised salmon. and the "dye" they put in the feed is the same compounds that they naturally eat (astraxanthin and others) that make them pink in the wild.
if you really want to pick an argument with salmon, find a real one, like how many forage fish are killed to make the feed. that is probably the only "real" issue with farmed salmon. But it doesn't resonate with the commoner, so the aniti-salmon groups drum up non-stories like PCBs & dye which sound way more scarier... yawn...
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I'm terrified of Aquadvantage...
also, farmed salmon tastes like poop.
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04-22-2013, 11:01 AM
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D'oh
Join Date: May 2004
Location: RI
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JackK
I'm terrified of Aquadvantage...
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some legit concerns around GM salmon for sure... but not approved yet, afaik?
Quote:
Originally Posted by JackK
also, farmed salmon tastes like poop.
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I wholeheartedly disagree.
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i bent my wookie
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04-22-2013, 11:07 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Libtardia
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farm raised steelhead is the bomb. sorry. 
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04-22-2013, 11:08 AM
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I load it with soyyaki sauce and grill it skin side down with asparagus or spinach... epic mealtime.
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04-22-2013, 11:09 AM
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Registered User
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Location: Libtardia
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There is so many worse foods out there that i wont even touch..
remember when people were told eating eggs or avacados were a bad thing?? LOL
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04-22-2013, 11:27 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nebe
farm raised steelhead is the bomb. sorry. 
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do steelhead taste more like trout Nebe?
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04-22-2013, 11:45 AM
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Yes
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04-22-2013, 11:57 AM
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Red Eye Jedi
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: East Facing
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nebe
farm raised steelhead is the bomb. sorry. 
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Just had this last night, prepared like salmon. Dijon mustard coating with lemon. Chit WAS the bomb. I only eat wild salmon from Whole Foods, but I will definitely eat farm-raised steelhead again 
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04-22-2013, 12:10 PM
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Try that soy Yaki sauce in the blue bottle next time.
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04-22-2013, 12:22 PM
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Also known as OAK
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Westlery, RI
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nebe
Try that soy Yaki sauce in the blue bottle next time.
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Roast with a past of ancho chile powder, fresh garlic and olive oil...
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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04-22-2013, 12:42 PM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Georgetown MA
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Blacken that Beyotch.... 
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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04-22-2013, 01:35 PM
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nope
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
Blacken that Beyotch.... 
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ya need Mongolian fire oil...
so your butt can breathe fire like Genghis Khan 
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04-22-2013, 01:39 PM
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Not Jack
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Other Cape
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zacs
I wholeheartedly disagree.
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It's cool... I don't like ANY cooked salmon (raw or cured for me) so I'm biased 
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04-22-2013, 07:08 PM
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Red Eye Jedi
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: East Facing
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Eben I will try that.
The woman is making us a mediterannean tilapia right now. her mom made the steelhead last night with a bomb corn, grape tomato, vinegar, and avacado-southwestern style salad. my mother made us wild salmon last week.
Life is good 
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04-22-2013, 10:05 PM
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Tilapia is the one fish I won't touch. But I hear its tasty.
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04-22-2013, 10:18 PM
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D'oh
Join Date: May 2004
Location: RI
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some tilapia taste OK, some are disgusting. chinese tend to be about 80% gross. Indonesia are 50/50. Central America are only 25% gross. imho... why won't you touch, nebe? they are more like a farmed chicken than a fish...
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i bent my wookie
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04-22-2013, 10:23 PM
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They eat #^&#^&#^&#^&.
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04-22-2013, 10:24 PM
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Registered User
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Farm raised shrimp is also something I avoid.
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04-22-2013, 11:36 PM
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D'oh
Join Date: May 2004
Location: RI
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nebe
They eat #^&#^&#^&#^&.
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they don't eat sh*t. i've been to tilapia farms all over the world. I promise you they don't eat #^&#^&#^&#^&. They eat nasty algae and pond scum, which can make them taste like a dirty aquarium, but I can assure you they don't eat sh*t.
I have also been to many shrimp farms and never seen them eat sh*t, although i have heard rumors of it in China. I doubt you would see it in thailand, indo, india or cent america. if you buy shrimp at BJ's, Costco, Whole Foods, you know it will be good. If it is dirt cheap, there is usually a reason. i avoid china shrimp, and advise most people to stay away from grocery store shrimp in general, other than the retailers mentioned above. agree that good shrimp is hard to find, but the problem is usually oversoaking with chemicals...
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i bent my wookie
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