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Old 03-24-2013, 12:15 PM   #1
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Grip Studs footware spikes

Just picked up some Grip Stud spikes for my wading boots. Installed a few - they are a little longer than Wearbars with a wider thread to insert into your boots. Once installed they appear to hold strong which may prevent them from leaning over like Wearbars. Grip Studs now makes a special stud for surfcasters - the 1800. They come 50 to a box and includes a install tool. Cost was approx $80. I use about 14 per boot. So I have plenty in case of loss.

In photo the Wearbar spike is above the Grip Stud for comparison.
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Old 03-24-2013, 01:20 PM   #2
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Great!

I look forward to hearing how they hold up. I have been watching
forum threads on these 1800s, but no one seems to have posted longer
term evaluations.

I use the wearbars. In my particular case, I think I sort of solved lean
over issue by following someone's recommendation to use a washer.
I have felt soles and have been using a 3/4 " washer whose hole
diameter is close to the thread diameter....also using the longer
threaded studs. It seams to solve that problem, but the problem
with them loosening and dropping out requires constant
maintenance. Some nights I don't loose any. Some nights I have 2-3 disappear.

I have been thinking about trying out the 1800s, but will probably
hold off until I run out of the wearbars I have.

It seems that they are a little more expensive. $1 vs $1.6 per, but if
they stick and stay put... Its definitely worth it...Set it and forget it!
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Old 03-24-2013, 02:10 PM   #3
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DZ - what kind of coating is on the Gripstuds?
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Old 03-24-2013, 02:50 PM   #4
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I got the same brand, but I got the 100 pack of 1800R, which have a longer point.

Also I got a pair of the new wearbars, which have a new coating on them to help prevent corrosion.

I put the grip studs in a pair of Simms headwaters. I used 34 per boot, only because I got 100 and I weigh a lot and want to disperse the weight more.

I put the wearbars in a pair of albrights.

There's a whole very informative thread on the big site, called the bees knees/wading boot thread, covers a lot of info and what works and what didn't.

Looking forward to putting both pairs to the test this year.

The grip studs are designed for autocross/motorcycle/rally car racing events on ice, snow and mud, so they should prove themselves in the surf.
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Dennis they look awesome. Order going out in the AM

No boat, back in the suds.
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Old 03-24-2013, 04:12 PM   #6
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DZ - what kind of coating is on the Gripstuds?
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Say's "rust resistant" which probably means they'll rust just as the Wearbars do. If they rust too much I worry about the slots to remove them. The core and point are tungstun carbide. After installing a few I'm wondering if I'll be able to use the same location for replacement spikes should they fall out as the aggresive screw threads remove much of the rubber. They are heavier than wearbars. Don't want to use too many in my footware and make them too heavy - I'm slim so don't need the extra support. Even though the wearbars bent over they still worked - but as puppet mentioned they (wearbars) would dissapear on some nights that didn't include strenuous walks/wading which was puzzleling. We'll see how these work out.
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Old 03-24-2013, 08:12 PM   #7
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Boots & Studs

Dennis & K...... Def give me a buzz on them,,,, I can share my results,,,,

You need more studs per boot... I had been playing with them for a couple years and over a year ago I had tons of inquiries from guys on them,,,,before last season I applied them to the headwaters from simms and used that combo all last season with great results. This combo by far worked out the best for me,,,,

At the start of the season I pounded them for a month straight on block.. These were all night pounding trips,,,, My season got cut short a t the end but still 127 trips they did not disappoint....

I put them in and never touched them again all season,,, I have even messed around with modifying them to improve them,,,, I will be wearing the same boots with the same studs when I start fishing this year,,,, and still have not touched them since I put them in,,,,, This photo is of the studs and boot at the end of the season,,,, rust was never an issue as they were constantly in use,,,, The 1800s were great,,,
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Old 03-24-2013, 09:31 PM   #8
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Thanks Tom - your input was the reason I'm trying them this season. They look good.

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Old 03-25-2013, 07:38 AM   #9
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I put them in and never touched them again all season,,, I have even messed around with modifying them to improve them,,,, I will be wearing the same boots with the same studs when I start fishing this year,,,, and still have not touched them since I put them in,,,,, This photo is of the studs and boot at the end of the season,,,, rust was never an issue as they were constantly in use,,,, The 1800s were great,,,
Great review!

Did you set them with epoxy, or did you use any special technique for setting them?

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Great review!

Did you set them with epoxy, or did you use any special technique for setting them?

Thanks!
The review of similar studs in the following link has an interesting tip regarding using an exacto knife to create a pilot hole for the studs.

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The review of similar studs in the following link has an interesting tip regarding using an exacto knife to create a pilot hole for the studs.

Grip Studs - Screw In Stud Kit
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That article is helpful - took me a few tries to get through the felt. I'll try and cut some felt away to make it easier.

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Old 03-25-2013, 09:16 AM   #12
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Good looking studs (sounds awkward).

Another good alternative I've found is the Orvis studs. Little easier to get than some of the others. Stick quite well on shale, granite, and bubbleweed. Haven't lost any and had any wear down like the Simms studs.
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That article is helpful - took me a few tries to get through the felt. I'll try and cut some felt away to make it easier.

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Dont cut any felt away,,, The harder the felt the tougher it will be for the studs to roll,,, slow steady with tons of pressure will get it done,,

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Dont cut any felt away,,, The harder the felt the tougher it will be for the studs to roll,,, slow steady with tons of pressure will get it done,,
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Did you use any adhesive?
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I put some in my headwater felt bottoms and did not use any adhesive but I have not fished in them yet. I don't beleave anyone I know has used adhesive the Auger type threads won't allow them to pull out. Even if u used an adhesive it wouldn't stop them from rolling over.
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Has anyone tried these in rubber soled boots? In particular LL Bean ? Or is felt the way to go?
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Old 03-25-2013, 03:45 PM   #17
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Old 03-25-2013, 05:29 PM   #18
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Friends don't let friends wear korkers... They are quickly becoming an antiquated relic of surfcasting made by a company that refuses to respond or cater to the demands of their target consumer. Good riddance.

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Excellent info Tom. Good to hear they didn't rust. I wonder if they rusted below the felt line. Maybe not since you didn't lose any and you're going on season 2. That's an issue w/ the wear bars (crappy black oxide on them that gives very, very little protection against corrosion) as they rust out under the felt. Looks like it's time to place an order...

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4 trips on them. Granite, walking on the roads, etc.

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Did you use any adhesive?
negative on the adhesive....

I pounded the crap out of the studs in the picture..... and my outings are never short,,, especially on Block,,,

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Has anyone tried these in rubber soled boots? In particular LL Bean ? Or is felt the way to go?
The auger on the 1800s will tear up the vibrams... Pete did some last year and tore the soles up,,,, If I was doing rubber soles I would do the 1740's in the vibrams,,, not going to give you lots of depth in bubble weed but might get it done...

If your traversing the bubble weed on the edge of the canal and getting new boots,,, go felt andy,,,

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negative on the adhesive....

I pounded the crap out of the studs in the picture..... and my outings are never short,,, especially on Block,,,

Thanks so much for the info!
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Has anyone tried these in rubber soled boots? In particular LL Bean ? Or is felt the way to go?
Two trips in the books with #1800 Grip Studs and rubber-soled Cabela Ultra Lites. 17 studs per boot; one for each insert. So far so good...

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This is about 3 months worth of abuse last season. Holding up well in the Albright boots. If the boots soles are thick enough 1800r are best.

I drilled a pilot hole first or the felt gets torn up.

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Yes I found drilling pilot holes first was best.
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As long as it's smaller then the auger thread. I used a very small bit.
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I'll second that advise.

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