Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

     

Left Nav S-B Home FAQ Members List S-B on Facebook Arcade WEAX Tides Buoys Calendar Today's Posts Right Nav

Left Container Right Container
 

Go Back   Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating » Main Forum » Boat Fishing & Boating

Boat Fishing & Boating A new forum at Striped-Bass.com for those fishing from boats and for boating in general

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-29-2014, 08:39 AM   #1
Raider Ronnie
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
Raider Ronnie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: On my boat
Posts: 9,703
Send a message via AIM to Raider Ronnie
electric trolling motor question

Anyone using one either salt or fresh water with battery knowledge ?
Wondering as to battery suggestions.
I assume deep cycle but battery size (group 24, 27, 31, 8d)
My main question is (depending on which battery) how much usage/running time I should expect with a 3hp motor on a 12ft aluminum ?
My son Matty & I went out on one of our lakes in Wrentham last evening.
Used the gas outboard to get out to some spots then the 3hp electric to move around slow and battery went dead 20-30 minutes of use (fully charged the deep cycle the day before but admittedly the battery is a few years old)
Thanks in advance.

Also.
Matty caught a handful of large mouth and I just sat back and smiled.
Nice change of pace from the salt !
Raider Ronnie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-29-2014, 11:36 AM   #2
Rockfish9
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
Rockfish9's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Reading Mass/Newburyport/merrimack river
Posts: 3,748
Quote:
Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie View Post
Anyone using one either salt or fresh water with battery knowledge ?
Wondering as to battery suggestions.
I assume deep cycle but battery size (group 24, 27, 31, 8d)
My main question is (depending on which battery) how much usage/running time I should expect with a 3hp motor on a 12ft aluminum ?
My son Matty & I went out on one of our lakes in Wrentham last evening.
Used the gas outboard to get out to some spots then the 3hp electric to move around slow and battery went dead 20-30 minutes of use (fully charged the deep cycle the day before but admittedly the battery is a few years old)
Thanks in advance.

Also.
Matty caught a handful of large mouth and I just sat back and smiled.
Nice change of pace from the salt !
use the biggest battery you feel like lugging... my electric gets more use than my outboard... I normally get 10-12 hours from a group 31 on a Motor guide 55lb thrust pushing a 2200 lb boat... I use an on board smart charger and plug in every night.. I tend to change batteries every 3 years weather they need it or not..

A good run is better than a bad stand!
Rockfish9 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-29-2014, 11:46 AM   #3
BigBo
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
BigBo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: RockVegas
Posts: 3,228
Ronnie, most electric motors are rated in lbs of thrust instead of hp. If possible, try to determine the amperage required at full throttle. For example, I have a 55lb thrust motor that draws @5 amps at low and 40-45 amps at full throttle. So now take a look at your battery and instead of looking at the group number, look at the AH (amp/hour) rating.
So if I have a battery that is rated for 45AH, that battery will only last one hour with my motor at full throttle. The trade off is that the higher the rating, the heavier the battery becomes (more lead plates) and as you probably already know, the price goes up.
The other problem is that lead cell AGM batteries, while a good bang for the buck, do not drain linearly. They get to a certain level and they go dead very quickly. And can only be recharged a given number of cycles.
There are other alternatives, but they get very expensive and when you're talking about getting out on the pond with the boy in a 12' tinnie, are hard to justify.
So, just look into a higher AH rating in a lead cell and go have fun with the boy.

The future ain't what it used to be. --Yogi Berra
BigBo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-29-2014, 02:59 PM   #4
Raider Ronnie
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
Raider Ronnie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: On my boat
Posts: 9,703
Send a message via AIM to Raider Ronnie
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigBo View Post
Ronnie, most electric motors are rated in lbs of thrust instead of hp. If possible, try to determine the amperage required at full throttle. For example, I have a 55lb thrust motor that draws @5 amps at low and 40-45 amps at full throttle. So now take a look at your battery and instead of looking at the group number, look at the AH (amp/hour) rating.
So if I have a battery that is rated for 45AH, that battery will only last one hour with my motor at full throttle. The trade off is that the higher the rating, the heavier the battery becomes (more lead plates) and as you probably already know, the price goes up.
The other problem is that lead cell AGM batteries, while a good bang for the buck, do not drain linearly. They get to a certain level and they go dead very quickly. And can only be recharged a given number of cycles.
There are other alternatives, but they get very expensive and when you're talking about getting out on the pond with the boy in a 12' tinnie, are hard to justify.
So, just look into a higher AH rating in a lead cell and go have fun with the boy.


What I have is a Mincota 3 hp
3hp is actually the model name.
To the best of my knowledge it's a 55 lb thrust motor.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
Raider Ronnie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-2014, 08:46 AM   #5
nautibuoys
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: NorthShore
Posts: 65
I have one of those 3 HP electric motors and per MK, they were top of the line at their time. It's roughly a 50lb thrust motor. They also said the HP stood for High Power, not horsepower. However, it has the digital maximizer in it and with my Group 27 deep cycle battery I can push my 15' square back canoe with 2 big guys around all day and only be down less than half a battery.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
nautibuoys is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-2014, 09:43 AM   #6
Raider Ronnie
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
Raider Ronnie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: On my boat
Posts: 9,703
Send a message via AIM to Raider Ronnie
Quote:
Originally Posted by nautibuoys View Post
I have one of those 3 HP electric motors and per MK, they were top of the line at their time. It's roughly a 50lb thrust motor. They also said the HP stood for High Power, not horsepower. However, it has the digital maximizer in it and with my Group 27 deep cycle battery I can push my 15' square back canoe with 2 big guys around all day and only be down less than half a battery.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device


Thanks.
That's the info I was looking for.
Going to buy a new group 31 deep cycle.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
Raider Ronnie is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:34 AM.


Powered by vBulletin. Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Please use all necessary and proper safety precautions. STAY SAFE Striper Talk Forums
Copyright 1998-20012 Striped-Bass.com