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09-13-2015, 07:22 PM
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Obama
Will win his second Nobel Peace Prize. What a #^&#^&#^&#^&ing joke
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09-13-2015, 07:34 PM
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Ummmmm....
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09-13-2015, 07:45 PM
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Must be a slow year in the Peace Department.
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09-13-2015, 07:49 PM
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its Bush's fault.
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09-13-2015, 08:09 PM
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I thougt he was winning the.... "Gold Flying Fickle Finger of Fate award ."....how many remember that?.........  |
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09-13-2015, 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Nebe
its Bush's fault.
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LOL Nebe, I never get tired of that post of yours. |
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09-14-2015, 05:12 AM
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Who cares.
Less than 500 days till we are rid of the pos
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09-14-2015, 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie
Who cares.
Less than 500 days till we are rid of the pos
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09-14-2015, 09:03 AM
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I actually read that they're considering changing the name to the Obama Peace Prize and are going to give Barak the first one.
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09-14-2015, 09:38 AM
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As opposed to the Chenny death prize
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09-14-2015, 11:10 AM
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By any stretch the last 6.5 years have not been better than the previous 8 on the global stage.
Difference between a D- and an E+ between Bush and Obama. Sucks any way you slice it but we have gotten worse with these guys at the helm.
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09-14-2015, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnR
By any stretch the last 6.5 years have not been better than the previous 8 on the global stage.
Difference between a D- and an E+ between Bush and Obama. Sucks any way you slice it but we have gotten worse with these guys at the helm.
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Are you talking about "peace" ?
You smoking crack today john?
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09-14-2015, 12:30 PM
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I can't believe nobody has remarked the peace prize story from the OP is fake.
Last edited by spence; 09-14-2015 at 03:08 PM..
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09-14-2015, 12:57 PM
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Where's the link?
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09-14-2015, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Fly Rod
I thougt he was winning the.... "Gold Flying Fickle Finger of Fate award ."....how many remember that?......... |
I Do.....ugh....I'm officially old.
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09-15-2015, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Nebe
Are you talking about "peace" ?
You smoking crack today john?
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Peace? Where? We are closer to real war today then any time since the 1980s.
The wars of the last 30 years? Puhleaze. Those are mere skirmishes, dust ups, and bad times. No disrespect whatsoever to those that have done their duty and fought in some of the most challenging times since Vietnam.
No, today, we are closer to a massive global war at any time since the 1980s, except things are less table than in the 1980s, and in many ways reminiscent in the posturing & turmoil of the 1910s and 1930s. |
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09-15-2015, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnR
Peace? Where? We are closer to real war today then any time since the 1980s.
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But how much of this is really mega-trends shifting geopolitics rather than US policy?
A huge problem here is we started a war without a game plan for when the big gears started to turn. |
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09-15-2015, 11:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnR
Peace? Where? We are closer to real war today then any time since the 1980s.
The wars of the last 30 years? Puhleaze. Those are mere skirmishes, dust ups, and bad times. No disrespect whatsoever to those that have done their duty and fought in some of the most challenging times since Vietnam.
No, today, we are closer to a massive global war at any time since the 1980s, except things are less table than in the 1980s, and in many ways reminiscent in the posturing & turmoil of the 1910s and 1930s.
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It's Bush's fault
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09-15-2015, 12:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnR
By any stretch the last 6.5 years have not been better than the previous 8 on the global stage.
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Global and Domestic issues, the economy, divisions among us, transparency,trust in our leaders.
Best question ever for the middle class, " are you better off now than you were
6.5 years ago in all these issues? |
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09-15-2015, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
But how much of this is really mega-trends shifting geopolitics rather than US policy?
A huge problem here is we started a war without a game plan for when the big gears started to turn.
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You silly goose. The US, both Dem and Rep parties, responsibly worked together for decades to balance and contain the global brushfires. The reason there were no Mega-Trends is that they were mostly held in check. The biggest destabilizer from the 40s to the 80s, was who? Your socialist workers paradise comrades. Who kept them (mostly) in check? More sensible people from the USA. Yes it was fustercluck but was generally a workable fustercluck.
The last 20 (25?) years have been awful - toss Jimmah Carters time in there too.
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It's Bush's fault
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Carter, Clinton, Bush, and Obama wraps it up in a bow.
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Originally Posted by justplugit
Global and Domestic issues, the economy, divisions among us, transparency,trust in our leaders.
Best question ever for the middle class, " are you better off now than you were
6.5 years ago in all these issues?
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I am better off financially but that be about it. The world and the USA is less stable now than it was a decade ago. |
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09-16-2015, 05:44 AM
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Well.....at least Race Relations are steadily improving under him, maybe that's why he's getting it 
Last edited by The Dad Fisherman; 09-16-2015 at 05:52 AM..
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09-16-2015, 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie
Who cares.
Less than 500 days till we are rid of the pos
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wishing we had a countdown clock
then there should be a tremendous celebration |
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09-16-2015, 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Raven
wishing we had a countdown clock
then there should be a tremendous celebration
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So who does the ganja infused farmer support? |
Bryan
Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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09-16-2015, 03:15 PM
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That is like asking who the tree hugging teacher supports
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09-16-2015, 07:51 PM
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That is like asking who the tree hugging teacher supports
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Directed at me?
Biden if he runs or Webb if he ever gets traction. Biden was my initial choice in the pre 2008 primaries |
Bryan
Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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09-17-2015, 08:40 AM
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Sorry, when Obama goes on TV and says "Republicans gotta stop just hatin' all the time", then he forfeits his right to any respect or courtesy from the other side. You reap what you sow, Paul. |
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09-17-2015, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
Directed at me?
Biden if he runs or Webb if he ever gets traction. Biden was my initial choice in the pre 2008 primaries
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Ah,Biden
Isn't he the one who said"Stand up Chuck,let em see ya"?
This was directed towards Chuck Graham. A state senator in a wheelchair.
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09-17-2015, 12:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
But how much of this is really mega-trends shifting geopolitics rather than US policy?
A huge problem here is we started a war without a game plan for when the big gears started to turn.
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Bush eventually (too late, but better than never) did have a plan. It was called The Surge. It was an astonishing, spectacular, success. Listen to Obama's own remarks about the Iraq he inherited.
So your synopsis is wrong. The problem is that Obama demolished that plan by pulling out, and by pulling out of Libya and of not doing anything in Syria. |
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09-17-2015, 01:26 PM
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So your synopsis is wrong. The problem is that Obama demolished that plan by pulling out, and by pulling out of Libya and of not doing anything in Syria.
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The Surge undoubtedly worked in the short-term. Do you feel the military could have sustained that level of effort there, and for how long? Would that make Iraq any more stable? Add to that sending ground-forces en masse to Libya and Syria? You certainly had your Neo-Con Wheaties this morning! |
Bryan
Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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09-17-2015, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Bush eventually (too late, but better than never) did have a plan. It was called The Surge. It was an astonishing, spectacular, success. Listen to Obama's own remarks about the Iraq he inherited.
So your synopsis is wrong. The problem is that Obama demolished that plan by pulling out, and by pulling out of Libya and of not doing anything in Syria.
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I mean strategically they had no plan beyond removing Saddam. Not for Iraq or for the region.
The Surge was a tactic, it was a response to the situation at a point in time. |
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