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11-12-2021, 02:52 PM
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democrat bill gives big tax cut to very wealtny
the democrat spending bill
increases the deduction you can take for state and local taxes, from $10,000 to $80,000.
If you pay $80,000 in state and local taxes, you are exceedingly wealthy. The democrats are looking to meaningfully decrease the federal tax bill paid by these wealthy folks.
Interesting.
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12-06-2021, 03:08 PM
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Wow, is this true?
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12-06-2021, 03:17 PM
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We’ve already covered this Jim.
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12-06-2021, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
Wow, is this true?
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kind of old, but yes. it’s a huge tax cut for very wealthy people. i don’t think too many people in the bottom half, pay state and local taxes of $80,000 a year.
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12-06-2021, 03:27 PM
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We’ve already covered this Jim.
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yes i saw your spin.
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12-06-2021, 03:29 PM
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12-06-2021, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
yes i saw your spin.
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No spin, I told you exactly what the reasoning was.
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12-06-2021, 04:22 PM
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No spin, I told you exactly what the reasoning was.
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the reason i g is to give a huge tax cut to wealthy people
in blue states, which bus exactly what it does.
your spin compared the impact under hypothetical assumptions you made about what would
expire in 5-10 years. tax cuts usually have expiration dates now, but almost never expire, and we are all
stunned that you relied on assumptions that painted this as something other than a tax cut. we’re all very shocked.
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12-06-2021, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
the reason i g is to give a huge tax cut to wealthy people
in blue states, which bus exactly what it does.
your spin compared the impact under hypothetical assumptions you made about what would
expire in 5-10 years. tax cuts usually have expiration dates now, but almost never expire, and we are all
stunned that you relied on assumptions that painted this as something other than a tax cut. we’re all very shocked.
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No, it was a compromise with progressives that didn't want the SALT cap to go to zero in 2025. Issue is moot as it likely won't survive the Senate.
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12-06-2021, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
No, it was a compromise with progressives that didn't want the SALT cap to go to zero in 2025. Issue is moot as it likely won't survive the Senate.
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never going to survive the senate. But worth noting that house democrats wanted to reduce federal income come tax obligations on people paying $80,000 a year in state and local taxes. in the article i posted, one idiot house democrat referred to this as a tax cut for working class and middle class families.
lots of middle class americans pay $80,000 a year in state and local taxes!
this is normal politics, both sides reward their benefactors.
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12-06-2021, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
But worth noting that house democrats wanted to reduce federal income come tax obligations on people paying $80,000 a year in state and local taxes.
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I believe this was more than offset by the millionaires surtax on those earning over 10M.
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12-06-2021, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
I believe this was more than offset by the millionaires surtax on those earning over 10M.
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Why go for an "offset," do both, no need to reduce the SALT tax if your goal is socking it to the rich.
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