The Danny Roll

[EricM]

I'm not a knowledgeable metal lip swimmer guy, but with the proliferation of options out there I've branched out from the atom40 and augmented my collection with a sprinkling of swimmers from some of the custom plugbuilders out there.

I noticed that some of these plugs really roll in the water right out of the package, so it must be an action that is built into the plug on purpose, but it looks a bit unnatural to my eyes, Maybe a side to side movement looks more like what I'm used to. So tell me, what is the story with the roll, is it desirable, or should I be breaking out the pliers and tuning those plugs ASAP?

[JFigliuolo]

Originally Posted by EricM

I'm not a knowledgeable metal lip swimmer guy, but with the proliferation of options out there I've branched out from the atom40 and augmented my collection with a sprinkling of swimmers from some of the custom plugbuilders out there.

I noticed that some of these plugs really roll in the water right out of the package, so it must be an action that is built into the plug on purpose, but it looks a bit unnatural to my eyes, Maybe a side to side movement looks more like what I'm used to. So tell me, what is the story with the roll, is it desirable, or should I be breaking out the pliers and tuning those plugs ASAP?

Roll dosen't bother me one bit... UNLESS the plug rolls out on me.

[Nebe]

i dont like roll if the plug has big eyes or is 2 tone- if its a \ solid color, its fine IMO...

to reduce roll, you can bend the eye loop up, but this may make the plug dive deeper than the original eye placement. You can also up up in belly hook sizes to give the plug more 'keel' effect or if your really desperate, you can also pour hot lead in the belly swivil holes- Ive done this to a few 2 hook dannies that i only wanted one hook on the belly and the results were fantastic. keep in mind I over think a lot of things

[ThrowingTimber]

properly made, properly tuned danny style lures will snake in an "S". Similar to a down hill skier.

[UserRemoved1]

All danny lures roll.

[Nebe]

not piemma's and not beachmasters

[njrisurfcaster]

piemma's?

[Nebe]

hes a member here.... he doesnt sell but he may do a trade or give you one..... but thats up to him- his metal lips have some of the best action i have ever seen.

[njrisurfcaster]

hmm..cool, I didn't recognize the name from commercial sellers, well if he's reading this and feeling generous, I'd love to see this non-rolling danny...I'd even trade something...
Thanks

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by Nebe

hes a member here.... he doesnt sell but he may do a trade or give you one..... but thats up to him- his metal lips have some of the best action i have ever seen.

He just needs to put bigger hooks on em

[EricM]

To roll or not to roll...I'm talking about egregious roll, where the danny is moving through the water like Ian Thorpe freestyling his way to the gold...I obviously have too much time on my hand to be thinking about this....

[Pete_G]

I'm anti-roll.

To me the snakey way a Beachmaster Danny moves through the water is why it works so well.

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by EricM

To roll or not to roll...I'm talking about egregious roll, where the danny is moving through the water like Ian Thorpe freestyling his way to the gold...I obviously have too much time on my hand to be thinking about this....

if you have a small propane torch, go outside with the plug and a pair of plyers and a small sinker and melt some lead into the belly swivel holes. it will make a big difference. take the hooks off and the split rings off first and dont breathe the fumes. I do this to needlefish to ge them to balance better and to dannies to slow that annoying roll...if you dont want to hurt the paint, put a few layers of masking tape over the hole then cut out an opening in the tape with a razor blade.

[Steve K]

I thought that this thread was about sushi. Mmmm Danny Roll...

[baldwin]

Roll or not, the Gibbs Danny is an extremely effective plug, if used right. That action works. If you want your Gibbs Dannies to have the action of a Beachmaster Danny, why not just buy a Beachmaster Danny? Different plugs work best in different situations.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by baldwin

If you want your Gibbs Dannies to have the action of a Beachmaster Danny, why not just buy a Beachmaster Danny?

Easier said than done

[Zeno]

I don't like roll on my Danny's at all.Wiggle is all I want.............subsurface metal lip swimmers ,especially when used in current is another thing.There I want more roll and less wiggle.
In heavy current plugs that wiggle tend to go nuts and over-wiggle ,looking very un-natural