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02-13-2008, 02:52 PM
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Lubina Estriada!
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 307
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Advice on Bullet Head Jigs
I'm looking for a Bullet style jig head (3/4oz size) with a super strong hook, like a 3x or 4x hook. I've used a lot of brands and from time to time I've had the hook fold or bend. I use the jig heads on long plastics like Sluggo's, Ronz, Hoagies. I prefer the bullet to stay streamlined.
Kalins has the best fit but the hook has been suspect. Any thoughts or suggestions would be great.
A few of us brought this conversation to Pt. Jude a couple of months back but needed more on the board for something to be done.
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Kayak Fishing Baby! Fish Reel Hard!
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02-13-2008, 02:55 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Cumberland,RI
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3/4 OZ is fairly small. the problem is that the jig molds won't hold a big hook size for the 3/4 oz jig head.
you could open up a Do-it mold with a dremel and bur tool to accept larger than standard hook sizes in the 3/4 OZ cavity.
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Saltheart
Custom Crafted Rods by Saltheart
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02-13-2008, 03:12 PM
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Australian Ambassador
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Bikini Bottom
Posts: 250
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I'll second the need for some bullet heads with good hooks. I also use the Kalins 3/4 oz. heads and the wire hook in them is suspect, but they're the best I've been able to find. SOL sells real nice shad and ball jigs with upsized hooks, but no bullet heads. I may get some of their 3/4 oz. ball heads and try those on my 7" sluggos, at that size the circumference of the ball head might be small enough to be somewhat streamlined with the rubber. It would be great if Pt. Jude started to make something to fill this niche, adding to their already excellent line of products of which I own more than a few of already (and need to stock up on at the shows as well).
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02-13-2008, 04:46 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: RI
Posts: 677
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Owner makes one that might be a tad stronger than Kalin.
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02-13-2008, 05:04 PM
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Lubina Estriada!
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 307
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I wish I had the room to add a molding station. Poisoned by rod building
and fly tying that takes up the bulk of the room in a small apartment. But I'm waters edge so that's the tradeoff...even though it's getting mighty wet right now. lol
3/4 oz is what I mostly atleast for where I fish. I just checked out Boone heads. Looks to be a quality hook but don't have it in my hands...and of course they have 1/2 and 1oz, no 3/4.
There has to be a bunch of anglers who are in the same boat. Do you....you.....feel like I do?
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Kayak Fishing Baby! Fish Reel Hard!
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02-13-2008, 08:51 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: jerseyshore
Posts: 4,949
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cow tamer
Owner makes one that might be a tad stronger than Kalin.
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The hook in the kalin 3/4 oz bullet I believe is stronger than the owner..
I have had the trouble with the small owner hook never the kalins..
I make a 3.4 oz bullet head with a 7/0 5319 owner jig hook.U can also substitute a variety of o'shaughnessy type hooks with a size #1 sinker eyelet..I do this also.
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FORE!
It's usually darkest just before it turns Black..
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02-13-2008, 05:38 PM
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Chefskeez6
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Worcester, MA
Posts: 15
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As stated above Owner make some decent jig heads.
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02-13-2008, 08:57 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Libtardia
Posts: 21,694
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NIB has spoken
I make one with a VMC 7/0 live bait hook and the #1 sinker eye..short and strong.. NIB taught me. 
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02-13-2008, 09:40 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: jerseyshore
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http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripert...1&d=1202956052
I looked for a 3/4 but could not find one easily..
Here are some samples of my work.I don't think I use a single mold with the intended hook...
Brass sinker eyelets and stainless ones I make myself out of scrap plug wire..Nothing goes to waste.. 
Top is a 3 oz shad head with a 10/0 owner Nasty..
Next down a 2 oz bullet with a 10/0 mustad 3407 oldie but goodie..
Next down a 2 oz bullet with a 8/0 gami o shaunessy..Great hook..
U can by something like this from cabela's
next one down is the same with a different line tie placement.
Bottom Is a 1 oz bullet with a 5/0 gammi siwash..I will take the same 1 oz head an make it out of tin to give me close to 3/4..I use the siwash in smaller baits.Longer baits like a sluggo get the 5319 7/0 owner jig hook.One of the best..This is just a small sampling of what U basically have to do as IMO, there's just not anything made the way NIB Likes it...
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FORE!
It's usually darkest just before it turns Black..
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02-14-2008, 11:35 AM
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Lubina Estriada!
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 307
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Thanks for posting NIB. Nice work.
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Kayak Fishing Baby! Fish Reel Hard!
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02-14-2008, 11:37 AM
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Also known as OAK
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Westlery, RI
Posts: 10,408
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nebe
NIB has spoken
I make one with a VMC 7/0 live bait hook and the #1 sinker eye..short and strong.. NIB taught me. 
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 Maybe we need to make some 1.5oz for Plan B before the season...
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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02-14-2008, 06:48 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: jerseyshore
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
 Maybe we need to make some 1.5oz for Plan B before the season...
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In 1.5 I use the owner bullet.Already has the dollar hook in it.
I just love the head..It fishes real well it's the only one I buy.I get em by the case..For around 4 dollars a 3 per pack.U have to know someone for that price..
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FORE!
It's usually darkest just before it turns Black..
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02-15-2008, 08:33 AM
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Also known as OAK
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Westlery, RI
Posts: 10,408
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NIB
In 1.5 I use the owner bullet.Already has the dollar hook in it.
I just love the head..It fishes real well it's the only one I buy.I get em by the case..For around 4 dollars a 3 per pack.U have to know someone for that price..
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thats rich for my blood T. We lose a lot of gear fishing Plan B....
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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02-16-2008, 03:43 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: jerseyshore
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
thats rich for my blood T. We lose a lot of gear fishing Plan B....
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Rule #1:
Never fall in love with a jig..They don't stick around long enough.
Like I said the hook I use cost's a buck so it cost's me 33 cents per.I will pay someone to pour em for .33 per everytime so I don't have to deal with em.
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It's usually darkest just before it turns Black..
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02-14-2008, 07:06 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Libtardia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
 Maybe we need to make some 1.5oz for Plan B before the season...
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sure thing hound... when the furnace is on, we will make a bunch.
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02-15-2008, 10:30 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: newport
Posts: 1,136
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
 Maybe we need to make some 1.5oz for Plan B before the season...
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See me at the shows Bryan,I think I got something for Plan B. Is 4,5 oz too big?
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02-16-2008, 03:47 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: jerseyshore
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pt.JudeJoe
See me at the shows Bryan,I think I got something for Plan B. Is 4,5 oz too big?
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Pt. Jude Joe has some cool stuff..
Stuff so cool. I cannot even talk about it..
Took some nice fish on em here in NJ last fall when everyone was crying how bad it was.. 
U'll just have to go an get the whole line to figure out what they where.

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FORE!
It's usually darkest just before it turns Black..
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02-15-2008, 12:51 PM
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Also known as OAK
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Westlery, RI
Posts: 10,408
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Joe... mainly 1.5-3oz... 4.5, MAYBE if it is a cranking west tide...
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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02-15-2008, 06:45 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2001
Posts: 7,649
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I thought that was a secret I only knew about 
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02-15-2008, 08:14 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: SOCO
Posts: 1,995
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ned Schneebly
sure thing hound... when the furnace is on, we will make a bunch
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I have about a hundred pounds of good lead 
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02-15-2008, 08:22 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Libtardia
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you can partake toonoc, bring lead and beer.  I'll let you know when
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02-16-2008, 03:38 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: jerseyshore
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nebe
you can partake toonoc, bring lead and beer.  I'll let you know when
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Lead, Beer, an Nebe's Infurnace (2000 degree's)
Sounds like my kinda party
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