It always makes me chuckle

[RIJIMMY]

here I go the crazy anti-liberal media guy, I know its all my imagination but....do remember all the media over the last few years on Iraq and Afghanistan and the military leadership? they were painted as Dark Lords operating for the evil #^&#^&#^&#^& Cheney. They were always under fire from congress and painted as incompetent death mongers.....
we'll Johnny D hates opinion pieces so here is a news piece (which wink wink IS an opinion piece for the libs) about Gen. Petraus

take a read and see if you notice a change in tone from the media? Gotta love the rock star comparison, it worked for O, might work for them.

Here is my favorite part -
"About Iraq he said, "in the three years since the surge was launched, levels of violence down by well over 90 percent now, violent civilian deaths down by well over 90 percent, high-profile attacks down by over 90 percent and all the rest."

hmmm, shouldnt a news report mention that the president and ALL OF THE CONGRESSIONAL LEADERS were against this surge??? Isnt that something to report????? I know, I'm looney.



What's Petraeus selling on his '2010 World Tour?' - CNN.com

[scottw]

I think you mean ... General Betray-US...isn't that what they were calling him back then?

the surge has failed...the war is lost...who said that??? I'm trying to remember....

[ecduzitgood]

Doesn't surprise me at all: if there is a Democrat in charge it all hunky dorey.

[FormerUser]

ITS NOT HIS FAULT!!!Barack said so on TV today,so it must be true!

After one year we don't have a president...we have an apologist.Great,I feel better about the future.

[scottw]

did you catch the Cry Baby-in -Chief today ?

I can sum it up...

"Waaaa...haa..haaa...haaaa !!!"

"This is NOT about ME....I...I..ME...I....I....I...I...let me be clear...this is not about me...I..ME ...I....I....I...
...this is about YOU...I....I....I....ME....I....I...I...I..."

heh heh

[spence]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

....do remember all the media over the last few years on Iraq and Afghanistan and the military leadership? they were painted as Dark Lords operating for the evil #^&#^&#^&#^& Cheney.

Do you consider Moveon.org part of the media?

They were always under fire from congress and painted as incompetent death mongers.....

For a time they were under fire, as civilians in charge of the Legislative Branch wanted answers as to why civilians in charge of the Executive Branch were making so many mistakes.

take a read and see if you notice a change in tone from the media?

So you're blending Moveon.org, some out for political gain in Congress and the media into one convenient soup?

That's mighty convenient of you. Sure makes your argument a lot easier.

Do you also bend spoons?

Here is my favorite part -
"About Iraq he said, "in the three years since the surge was launched, levels of violence down by well over 90 percent now, violent civilian deaths down by well over 90 percent, high-profile attacks down by over 90 percent and all the rest."

hmmm, shouldnt a news report mention that the president and ALL OF THE CONGRESSIONAL LEADERS were against this surge??? Isnt that something to report????? I know, I'm looney.

The report is about the superstar status of the General, not a chapter from a history book.

I'd note there are other Generals worth reading about.

Pick up a copy of "The Fourth Star" which is a great read...or if you're nice I could loan you my copy.

Amazon.com: The Fourth Star: Four Generals and the Epic Struggle for the Future of the United States Army (9780307409065): Greg Jaffe, David Cloud: Books

-spence

[scottw]

I'm thinkin' that Faux-Bama ought to rethink the State of the Union...maybe have the teleprompter prepare a slide show lasting 50 minutes or so.... on Obama's golf game and handicap...since it's the only thing he's actually worked hard at and actually improved over the past year

[justplugit]

Ya, he told the people in Ohio at the Town Meeting ? it
felt good for him to get out of Washington.
Has he ever been there???

[spence]

Originally Posted by justplugit

Ya, he told the people in Ohio at the Town Meeting ? it
felt good for him to get out of Washington.
Has he ever been there???

President Obama’s Vacation Days | FactCheck.org

-spence

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by spence

President Obama’s Vacation Days | FactCheck.org

-spence

Let's see on top of the approx month's vacation time, depending on his time out west, going on his word wide Apology tour, accepting his Nobel Peace Prize, a worthless Copenhagen trip, campaigning in Va. and Ma. and 3 times in NJ, and going to Ohio to escape Washington doesn't sound like he's been handcuffed there.

I thought he campaigned so he could be in Washington.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by justplugit

Ya, he told the people in Ohio at the Town Meeting ? it
felt good for him to get out of Washington.
Has he ever been there???

Only for the parties ...

He managed to use the word "I" 57 times in a speech that "wasn't about him" at that town meeting

Factcheck that Spence

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

Do you consider Moveon.org part of the media?-spence

What the media chooses to report is a major "part" of the media. When it uncritically provides a platform for Moveon.org to present its point of view, that message becomes "part" of the media-- especially when that platform is so often provided to what most consider a fringe organisation and not so often given to other fringe organisations that have opposing views.

[spence]

Originally Posted by detbuch

What the media chooses to report is a major "part" of the media. When it uncritically provides a platform for Moveon.org to present its point of view, that message becomes "part" of the media-- especially when that platform is so often provided to what most consider a fringe organisation and not so often given to other fringe organisations that have opposing views.

I guess I'm missing something. When again has the "media" provided an uncritical platform for Moveon.org?

-spence

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

I guess I'm missing something. When again has the "media" provided an uncritical platform for Moveon.org?

-spence

Reporting (to which I was referring when I said "What the media chooses to report") as opposed to editorializing, is supposed to be unbiased, non-critical. (Often, admittedly, it is tainted by the reporter's attitude, tone of voice, facial expression on TV, which questions are asked and which are not, etc.)

So, the uncritical platform was provided every time the "media" reported a Moveon.org rally, protest. And whenever in those reports the "media" stuck a microphone in one of their faces.

[spence]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Reporting (to which I was referring when I said "What the media chooses to report") as opposed to editorializing, is supposed to be unbiased, non-critical. (Often, admittedly, it is tainted by the reporter's attitude, tone of voice, facial expression on TV, which questions are asked and which are not, etc.)

So, the uncritical platform was provided every time the "media" reported a Moveon.org rally, protest. And whenever in those reports the "media" stuck a microphone in one of their faces.

Not sure that answers my question.

I watch a lot of news, and about the only time I can even think of Move.on even being mentioned in regular news was during some controversy like the General Betrayus ad, which didn't exactly receive a glowing endorsement. Some of the more liberal MSNBC personalities might mention them here or there.

You appear to be working under the assumption that it must be true as to you they're two peas...

Any anecdotes, examples or references?

-spence

[RIJIMMY]

what what a great spence-ism. he adds move on.org to the discussion and then looks for others to explain it.
Spence, can you really tell me that media did not cover the congressional hearings on iraq and afghanisatn and HIGHLIGHTED the grillings by Kennedy and others? Can you really tell me that THE SURGE received no media attention? That the critics didnt get the bulk of the press??????