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ecduzitgood · 09-13-2010, 07:52 AM

Should people who receive money from the taxpayers have the right to vote?
Shouldn't there be some sort of conflict of interest?
I mean think about it, the more people on the public dole the better for the politicians that need their vote. If I was the party in control and wanted to ensure my parties reelection I would increase the number of people who benefit from other peoples money which would ensure their support. It seems to me that the politicians are not looking out for the good of the country as a whole but just looking to ensure that they can retain power at the expense of others.

RIJIMMY · 09-13-2010, 08:43 AM

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It seems to me that the politicians are not looking out for the good of the country as a whole but just looking to ensure that they can retain power at the expense of others.

like legalizing "illegal aliens" of which 99% will support Democrats?
WE've posted before that were are very, very close in this country to having all of the taxes paid by the minority of voters. So basically you pay the bills and have no majoirty voice!

FishermanTim · 09-13-2010, 09:28 AM

Maybe there should be a test for voter registration, to at least guarantee that the voter knows what he/she is voting for and why?
Unfortunately we have too many people that vote as a sort of popularity contest, not as a means of obtaining the best for the people. The politicians are no better, since they ALL lower their standards and pander to whoever will give them their vote.

Maybe the next politician that utters the immortal words "No new taxes!" should be kicked in the crotch and given a "swirley" in a port-pottie!

We need to make sure that voters are informed and not just led to the polls like sheep to the slaughter house!

RIJIMMY · 09-13-2010, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by FishermanTim

Maybe there should be a test for voter registration, to at least guarantee that the voter knows what he/she is voting for and why?
Unfortunately we have too many people that vote as a sort of popularity contest, not as a means of obtaining the best for the people. The politicians are no better, since they ALL lower their standards and pander to whoever will give them their vote.

Maybe the next politician that utters the immortal words "No new taxes!" should be kicked in the crotch and given a "swirley" in a port-pottie!

We need to make sure that voters are informed and not just led to the polls like sheep to the slaughter house!

then we would be discriminating against dumb people

FishermanTim · 09-13-2010, 10:54 AM

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then we would be discriminating against dumb people

OK, so we let them vote..... for something like "What flavor of Slim-Jim goes best with cheap beer?" or "When dating relatives, how soon is too soon to announce your engagement?" or maybe "Whose huntin' dog has the pretty face?"

Since proof of citizenship is no longer verified for voting, why not have a questionaire with questions you would have to answer when applying for citizenship? It could potentially solve 2 problems at one time!

As I have said before, "Let the campaign circus begin!"

The Dad Fisherman · 09-13-2010, 10:18 AM

its America....every citizen over the age of 18 has the right to a vote....period

not even debatable...

buckman · 09-13-2010, 02:52 PM

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its America....every citizen over the age of 18 has the right to a vote....period

not even debatable...

I agree.
However, Ma. Aholes have fought the Feds, tooth and nail to restrict the right of our men and women over seas their right to vote.

Vote them out

spence · 09-13-2010, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ecduzitgood

Should people who receive money from the taxpayers have the right to vote?
Shouldn't there be some sort of conflict of interest?

I think you should add corporate CEO's and lobbyists to the list then, if they're in industries that negatively impact the environment add their entire families.

-spence

Bronko · 09-13-2010, 11:00 AM

Nope ,unfortunately the leches and layabouts who drain more from the country than they contribute definitely have a right to vote as well. I am sure our founding fathers never envisioned a mass of people living off the hard work and sacrifices of others or the constitution would have definitely looked a lot different. And I know they would be horrified by the size and current exponential growth of the government. Use your vote in November wisely.

scottw · 09-13-2010, 11:58 AM

with all of the dead people and illegal aliens that vote for democrats each election cycle, it really wouldn't be fair to tell any legally eligible citizen that they can't vote.....

justplugit · 09-13-2010, 02:03 PM

Yup, all American citizens have a rigth to vote, just require last years tax return as proof of citizenship when registering.
Two birds with one stone.

spence · 09-13-2010, 04:01 PM

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Yup, all American citizens have a rigth to vote, just require last years tax return as proof of citizenship when registering.
Two birds with one stone.

Having a tax return doesn't make you a citizen...it just means you've paid your taxes!

-spence

PaulS · 09-13-2010, 03:02 PM

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Nope ,unfortunately the leches and layabouts who drain more from the country than they contribute definitely have a right to vote as well. I am sure our founding fathers never envisioned a mass of people living off the hard work and sacrifices of others or the constitution would have definitely looked a lot different. And I know they would be horrified by the size and current exponential growth of the government. Use your vote in November wisely.

So everyone who gets back more than they contribute can't vote?? You've just knocked 50% of the voting pop. out.

If I pay more in taxes than you, am I suppose to consider you a leach?

spence · 09-13-2010, 03:58 PM

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If I pay more in taxes than you, am I suppose to consider you a leach?

My father was upset when he heard that Medicare Advantage was under fire in the new health bill. I did explain to him that Medicare Advantage participants actually received a higher share of taxpayer dollars...

He's a leech too.

-spence

Bronko · 09-13-2010, 06:50 PM

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So everyone who gets back more than they contribute can't vote?? You've just knocked 50% of the voting pop. out.

If I pay more in taxes than you, am I suppose to consider you a leach?

Did you even read my post? I said everyone has the right to vote whether we like it or not. I do have a problem with the amount I am taxed and to whom that money goes. That is my problem and I will vote accordingly.

PaulS · 09-14-2010, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Bronko

Did you even read my post? I said everyone has the right to vote whether we like it or not. I do have a problem with the amount I am taxed and to whom that money goes. That is my problem and I will vote accordingly.

The question was "Should people who receive money from the taxpayers have the right to vote?"

Your response was "nope, unfortunately...."

I guess writing isn't your strong suit.