ReAwaken tour,

[wdmso]

Was reading a story about how the Rights newest ploy is to somehow blame Biden for Putins threats to use nukes .. then I saw a reference to ReAwaken tour, so I did a quick search

Seems it’s some Christian nationalist movement



“We’re under warfare,” one speaker told them. Another said she would “take a bullet for my nation,” while a third insisted, “They hate you because they hate Jesus.” Attendees were told now is the time to “put on the whole armor of God.” Then retired three-star Army general Michael Flynn, the tour’s biggest draw

I heard this brainwashed idea the Christians were under attack 10 plus years ago from another correctional officer I worked with for 20 plus years. It’s what he heard in his church every Sunday

A poll by the University of Maryland conducted in May found that 61% of Republicans support declaring the U.S. to be a Christian nation.

Religion and politics don’t mix

Christian nationalism really undermines and attacks foundational values in American democracy. And that is a promise of religious freedoms for all,”

I agree with that statement .

And some thought I was crazy to compare today’s republicans to the Shia or the Sunnis in Iraq .

When people start looking to build a Army of God .

It goes on.

From the stage, speakers stirred up fear and hatred. Immigrants are rushing over the border “to take your place,” one said. Homosexuals and pedophiles are classified in the same category: sinful people who don’t honor God. Life-saving vaccines are creating “a damn genocide.” “The enemy wants to muzzle you,”

This is the current GOP message all rolled into one

But I’ve been told Democrats want a totalitarian system of Government.. lol

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/a...-america-tour/

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Religion and politics don’t mix

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The USA was literally founded, as an experiment in religious freedom. The Judeo-Christian principles that our founding fathers relied on to construct the nation from the ground up, are the exact reason why (despite our MANY flaws) we are the greatest country the earth has ever known.

Religion is why there aren't any black slaves living on your street. And it's why, for now at least, blacks and whites can go to the same schools and eat in the same restaurants.

When you tell a Christian baker his choices are (1) violate his religious beliefs and stay open, or (2) close his business, that's where we run into problems in this country.

Separation of church and state doesn't mean (doesn't even come close to meaning) that religion is excluded from setting public policy. It means there's no official religion that gets preferential treatment over others. Today, many Christians feel like they're getting the short end of the stick.

I'll take public policy influenced by faith, over godless public policy, any day. Democrats feel the opposite. One reason why I say it's time for 2 countries, because that's a tough divide to bridge.

You say it's brainwashed for Cjristians to feel we're under attack. When many democrats were opposed to Amy Barrett specifically because of her catholicism, that's a direct attack on religious liberty. It's long settled in the US that there's no religious litmus test to serve in public office. We don't exclude people for religious reasons, at least, we didn't used to.

The left, at least the progressive left, despises faith. Because the judeo christian principles that were used as the foundation of the nation, are incompatible with current liberalism. They want people to believe in government, not God. You are absolutely entitled to that, and we are entitled to say "no thanks" to that.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

The USA was literally founded, as an experiment in religious freedom. The Judeo-Christian principles that our founding fathers relied on to construct the nation from the ground up, are the exact reason why (despite our MANY flaws) we are the greatest country the earth has ever known.

Religion is why there aren't any black slaves living on your street. And it's why, for now at least, blacks and whites can go to the same schools and eat in the same restaurants.

When you tell a Christian baker his choices are (1) violate his religious beliefs and stay open, or (2) close his business, that's where we run into problems in this country.

Separation of church and state doesn't mean (doesn't even come close to meaning) that religion is excluded from setting public policy. It means there's no official religion that gets preferential treatment over others. Today, many Christians feel like they're getting the short end of the stick.

I'll take public policy influenced by faith, over godless public policy, any day. Democrats feel the opposite. One reason why I say it's time for 2 countries, because that's a tough divide to bridge.

You say it's brainwashed for Cjristians to feel we're under attack. When many democrats were opposed to Amy Barrett specifically because of her catholicism, that's a direct attack on religious liberty. It's long settled in the US that there's no religious litmus test to serve in public office. We don't exclude people for religious reasons, at least, we didn't used to.

The left, at least the progressive left, despises faith. Because the judeo christian principles that were used as the foundation of the nation, are incompatible with current liberalism. They want people to believe in government, not God. You are absolutely entitled to that, and we are entitled to say "no thanks" to that.

If the authors of the constitution had wanted a religious state they would have written it.
They didn’t.
They were wise enough to realize organized religion is a means of control and purposely differentiated it from government.

When 2/3 of the Supreme Court is compromised of one religion and the Court has issues as an institution, perhaps it is wise to question.

Mario Cuomo said in 1984:

“The Catholic who holds political office in a pluralistic democracy — who is elected to serve Jews and Muslims, atheists and Protestants, as well as Catholics — bears special responsibility,” Cuomo said. “He or she undertakes to help create conditions under which all can live with a maximum of dignity and with a reasonable degree of freedom; where everyone who chooses may hold beliefs different from specifically Catholic ones — sometimes contradictory to them; where the laws protect people’s right to divorce, to use birth control and even to choose abortion.”
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

If the authors of the constitution had wanted a religious state they would have written it.
They didn’t.
They were wise enough to realize organized religion is a means of control and purposely differentiated it from government.

When 2/3 of the Supreme Court is compromised of one religion and the Court has issues as an institution, perhaps it is wise to question.

Mario Cuomo said in 1984:

“The Catholic who holds political office in a pluralistic democracy — who is elected to serve Jews and Muslims, atheists and Protestants, as well as Catholics — bears special responsibility,” Cuomo said. “He or she undertakes to help create conditions under which all can live with a maximum of dignity and with a reasonable degree of freedom; where everyone who chooses may hold beliefs different from specifically Catholic ones — sometimes contradictory to them; where the laws protect people’s right to divorce, to use birth control and even to choose abortion.”
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they didn’t want a state sanctioned religion. but they didn’t exclude religion from the public square. Religion is on our currency, hindus mentioned in the founding documents, congressional
sessions often start with prayer…

there’s no official state religion like there is in Iran. but our principles are rooted in judeo christian principles. no one cares if you don’t happen to like that.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

they didn’t want a state sanctioned religion. but they didn’t exclude religion from the public square. Religion is on our currency, hindus mentioned in the founding documents, congressional
sessions often start with prayer…

there’s no official state religion like there is in Iran. but our principles are rooted in judeo christian principles. no one cares if you don’t happen to like that.

Actually Jim our laws are based on English law and many of those are based on Norse laws.
Probably the Vikings, Scots, Gauls and so on would disagree with you, though they at best would run you out as a Papist, if they let you live.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Actually Jim our laws are based on English law and many of those are based on Norse laws.
Probably the Vikings, Scots, Gauls and so on would disagree with you, though they at best would run you out as a Papist, if they let you live.
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so, judeo christian principles didn’t play a meaningful
role in the founding of the USA. my bad, thanks for clarifying.

England had a monarchy. We didn’t. So we didn’t replicate english law.

[wdmso]

So you’ll be attending the next ReAwaken tour, when it comes Around . Got it
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

So you’ll be attending the next ReAwaken tour, when it comes Around . Got it
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never heard of it. But you’ll say they speak for
me.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

never heard of it. But you’ll say they speak for
me.

Guess you didn’t take the time to read the article

But had time to write a lengthy response about a group you never heard of.?
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Guess you didn’t take the time to read the article

But had time to write a lengthy response about a group you never heard of.?
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i didn’t write one syllable about that group, i have zero knowledge for jen and can’t say anything about them

Me thinks this is going to be a very fun election night.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Was reading a story about how the Rights newest ploy..... then I saw a reference to ReAwaken tour, so I did a quick search

Seems it’s some Christian nationalist movement

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keep doing that solid research...

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by scottw

keep doing that solid research...

Keep hiding your head in the sand . you are very proficient at it .

[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Keep hiding your head in the sand . you are very proficient at it .

do they have good music on that tour?

[Pete F.]

Evangelicals spent a thousand years railing about the AntiChrist, when he shows up they elect him President.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Evangelicals spent a thousand years railing about the AntiChrist, when he shows up they elect him President.

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wasn't the Evangelical church founded in 1730?

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by scottw

wasn't the Evangelical church founded in 1730?

Sitting in the low chair still, aren’t you?
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