When is Jim in NJ

[spence]

Going to open up about the vile behavior of New Jersey Republicans and white wash the entire party in the process?

-spence

[Jimbo]

I'm pretty sure you don't mean me. I can't compete in this forum on any topic. However, I wouldn't stick up for the aides responsible. With out a doubt some of the stupidest people on earth, thinking inappropriate emails sent to/from prominent state officials wouldn't sometime come back to bite them in the a$$ let alone incriminate them.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jimbo

I'm pretty sure you don't mean me.

Innocent.

-spence

[PaulS]

I'm sure Jim started a thread on the IRS scandal and blamed Pres Obama for the actions of some mid-level IRS agent, half way across the country (who was conserv. and targeted groups from both sides of the political spectrum) while he makes excuses for Gov. Christie's aide and childhood friend.

One of many quotes that made me laugh was when he said he wasn't a bully. I'm wondering if the people he has challenged to a fight would agree.

As an aside, I don't think Christie had anything to do with this.

[basswipe]

An atypical response.

Its an election year and Christie's contemplating a run in '16 and there's a "scandal",imagine that!

You guys are #^&#^&#^&#^&ing pathetic.

[Jim in CT]

Spence, if Christie was a Democrat, every single person here knows you'd be bending over backwards to defend him.

I'm more fair than that. If Christie had no first-hand knowledgs of what happened, he still deserves to catch a lot of heat, because the buck stops with him. If he did know, and I presume that he did, he deserves to be impeached. FAIR ENOUGH?

I'd say that what Christie did is slightly more appalling than Obama's closing the open-air WWII memorial, and other un-manned parks, during the shutdown. Both are cases of causing unnecessary stress, to innocent bystanders, for political motives (you will never admit Obama had political reasons for erecting barracades around open air parks). Spence, we all know that you endlessly defended that, as you are physically incapable of saying anything critical of your man-crush.

On these forums, I have, on occasion, lambasted conservatives when they have it coming. I have also stated that I believe conservatives are wrong on some issues like gay marriage and gun control.

That makes me more fair-minded than you are capable of ever being. Spence, I am not the right-wing equivalent of you, not even close, I'm not nearly as radically right as you are left. Not even remotely close. You're a liberal parrot. So please don't ever accuse me of being as blind and as brainwashed and thoughtless and as simple-minded and as predictable as you are. If you can't think for yourself, perhaps you can at least strive for a shred of intellectual honesty here. Is that really asking so much?

Obviously I'm right-leaning. However, you are the fanatic here, not me.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Spence, if Christie was a Democrat, every single person here knows you'd be bending over backwards to defend him.


That makes me more fair-minded than you are capable of ever being. Spence, I am not the right-wing equivalent of you, not even close, I'm not nearly as radically right as you are left. Not even remotely close. .

I'm sure that he would be defending him but the difference is that he doesn't start threads every time he sees something that he doesn't like than state that all repubs. are like that as you do. Finally he doesn't resort to insults as you frequently do.

Is there any wonder this forum has lost so many members since you started posting? I always wonder if you speak like that when you're face to face with people.

I did get a laugh at that last comment though,
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

I'm sure that he would be defending him but the difference is that he doesn't start threads every time he sees something that he doesn't like than state that all repubs. are like that as you do. Finally he doesn't resort to insults as you frequently do.

Is there any wonder this forum has lost so many members since you started posting? I always wonder if you speak like that when you're face to face with people.

I did get a laugh at that last comment though,
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Paul: The IRS didn't single out conservatives, they persecuted liberals too.

Jim: Do you have any facts to support that?

Paul: Everyone is leaving this forum because of you, you big meanie!

Do I have that about right, Paul? Is that what transpired here?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

I did get a laugh at that last comment though,
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My last comment was that Obama apologized for the IRS scandal, and that's funny to you? Well, as usual (not always, but usually) my facts seem to be correct. A quote from Obama...

"If, in fact, IRS personnel engaged in the kind of practices that have been reported on and were intentionally targeting conservative groups, then that is outrageous, and there is no place for it, and they have to be held fully accountable, because the IRS as an independent agency requires absolute integrity and people have to have confidence that they are applying the laws in a non-partisan way. You should feel that way regardless of party."

Paul, you denied that the IRS targeted conservative groups. Obama himself doesn't seem to be denying that, so why would you deny it?

Sorry for being so mean...

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by basswipe

An atypical response.

Its an election year and Christie's contemplating a run in '16 and there's a "scandal",imagine that!

You guys are #^&#^&#^&#^&ing pathetic.

It is a legitimate scandal. Ambulances were late responding to calls, precisely because of the lane closures. Public servents have no business engaging in that kind of vindictive behavior. If Christie's team is pissed at the Fort Lee mayor, why not target their anger at him, instead of dragging all of the citizens into it. Christie is their governor, too, he is supposed to look out for them.

It's a real scandal. What's phony is the liberal outrage to this behavior, when those same liberals (read: Spence and everyone at MSNBC) refuse to criticize any Democrat for equally repugnant behavior. But the conservatives, unlike liberals, believe in family values, and we need to practice what we preach.

I cannot believe Christie would do something so asinine.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

I'm sure Jim started a thread on the IRS scandal and blamed Pres Obama for the actions of some mid-level IRS agent, half way across the country (who was conserv. and targeted groups from both sides of the political spectrum) .

I have a hunch your facts are a bit mixed up here. I could be wrong, but I think the IRS was targeting conservatives, the IRS was not equally targeting conservatives and liberals.

And the person leading the Justice Department probe into the IRS scandal, is an Obama donor. Shocking.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

I have a hunch your facts are a bit mixed up here. I could be wrong, but I think the IRS was targeting conservatives, the IRS was not equally targeting conservatives and liberals.

And the person leading the Justice Department probe into the IRS scandal, is an Obama donor.

Shocking.

There were far more cons groups then lib. groups who applied.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

There were far more cons groups then lib. groups who applied.
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Is there any evidence that liberal groups were targeted specifically for their political beliefs?

[PaulS]

Bump up the thread that I'm sure you started and we could rehash the things which were already discussed.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Bump up the thread that I'm sure you started and we could rehash the things which were already discussed.
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Seems to me that you are the one who initiated the rehashing of the IRS scandal, if you read the posts in this thread. I'm just responding to your accusation. If you used this thread to comment on the IRS scandal, I fail to see why I can't do the same.

I don't know if I started one. I don't think liberal groups were complaining that the IRS was targeting them specifically for their political beliefs. I have heard Obama apologize for the fact that the IRS was targeting conservatives.

[PaulS]

Is that what happened?

No, I don't think you are a meanie. I would say you are something else but since I can't say it to your face I won't say it.k
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[spence]

You guys are funny. Here's Christie in a pickle and you just can't help but make it about Obama. I should trademark "Benghazi" as I'd make a fortune.

Records being released make it seem impossible Christie isn't lying about his knowledge, even if he didn't have a hand in the actual event.

-spence

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

You guys are funny. Here's Christie in a pickle and you just can't help but make it about Obama. I should trademark "Benghazi" as I'd make a fortune.

Records being released make it seem impossible Christie isn't lying about his knowledge, even if he didn't have a hand in the actual event.

-spence

The conservatives here seem to have concluded that Christie deserves whatever heat he takes. When did you say that about Obama? When the stimulus failed to keep unemployment under 8%? After Benghazi? After the IRS scandal? After the Obamacare website disaster? Answer: nope.

Spence, you began this thread with the assumption that I was a hypocrite who would point out liberal flaws, but give Christie a pass. Clearly you were mistaken, yet again.

Spence, there is one, and only one, ideological fanatic here who refuses to criticize his own party no matter what. That could not be more clear. It is demonstrably true.

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

The conservatives here seem to have concluded that Christie deserves whatever heat he takes. When did you say that about Obama? When the stimulus failed to keep unemployment under 8%? After Benghazi? After the IRS scandal? After the Obamacare website disaster? Answer: nope.

Spence, you began this thread with the assumption that I was a hypocrite who would point out liberal flaws, but give Christie a pass. Clearly you were mistaken, yet again.

Spence, there is one, and only one, ideological fanatic here who refuses to criticize his own party no matter what. That could not be more clear. It is demonstrably true.

Benghazi happened just as originally described. There was no coverup. The ties to al Qaeda were fabricated by a corrupt journalist to sell a story, which the GOP ate up with great delight. That is, unless my facts are wrong.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Benghazi happened just as originally described. There was no coverup. The ties to al Qaeda were fabricated by a corrupt journalist to sell a story, which the GOP ate up with great delight. That is, unless my facts are wrong.
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Whether it was Al Queda or not (that may still be open for debate), it certainly had nothing to do with a video, yet the administration kept playing that card, which essentially was blaming an American citizen for what happened in Benghazi (the video was made by an American). What do you think of that? Then we have a senior administration official (Clinton), saying "what difference does it make" what the root cause was. What difference does it make. Tell that to the families.

Obama also (1) spent almost $1 trillion on a stimulus that he said would keep unemployment below 8%, and unemployment shot over 10%; (2) claimed to be post partisan, yet his IRS was targeting the tea party; (3) said "if you like your plan or doctor, you can keep them - period".

Not one critical syllable from you-know-who on any of those flubs.

So who is the fanatic? Hmmmmmmm...

Et tu, Nebe?

[spence]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Benghazi happened just as originally described. There was no coverup. The ties to al Qaeda were fabricated by a corrupt journalist to sell a story, which the GOP ate up with great delight. That is, unless my facts are wrong.
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Nebe, bin laden ordered the hit. Hillary was smuggling manpads in her slacks to Iran in exchange for a discount at the rug emporium around exit 38 on the Long Island expressway. This is all about Chicago and Acorn, the Rev Wright and pot in Hawaii. It would be funny if he were really an American citizen.

Benghazi.
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

Nebe, bin laden ordered the hit. Hillary was smuggling manpads in her slacks to Iran in exchange for a discount at the rug emporium around exit 38 on the Long Island expressway. This is all about Chicago and Acorn, the Rev Wright and pot in Hawaii. It would be funny if he were really an American citizen.

Benghazi.
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Phew! Thank you for admitting it was about these loony tunes, not about Bush. And yet . . . you still have your nose up their butt.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Benghazi happened just as originally described. There was no coverup. The ties to al Qaeda were fabricated by a corrupt journalist to sell a story, which the GOP ate up with great delight. That is, unless my facts are wrong.
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"The ties to al Qaeda were fabricated by a corrupt journalist to sell a story"

Interesting. The US Senate, which last time I checked was run by the Democrats, issued a report saying definitively that there were ties to Al Queda.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014...nghazi-report/

Our presidential front runner, Mrs Clinton, said during the hearings "what difference does it make" who was responsible. HOW ABOUT THIS...the difference is, the truth tells us accurately, who we need to go after to seek justice. That means nothing to the woman who was in charge of the department that lost 4 of its employees?

I don't get the liberal willingness to let politicians get away with absolutely anything, especially if their name is Kennedy or Clinton. I truly do not get it.

[PaulS]

[QUOTE=Jim in CT;1028711Our presidential front runner, Mrs Clinton, said during the hearings "what difference does it make" who was responsible. HOW ABOUT THIS...the difference is, the truth tells us accurately, who we need to go after to seek justice. That means nothing to the woman who was in charge of the department that lost 4 of its employees?

I don't get the liberal willingness to let politicians get away with absolutely anything, especially if their name is Kennedy or Clinton. I truly do not get it.[/QUOTE]

So when she made that statement, was she refering to "who was responsible" as you indicated b/c the way you wrote that it sounds like she didn't care who was responsible?

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Interesting. The US Senate, which last time I checked was run by the Democrats, issued a report saying definitively that there were ties to Al Queda.

The report you cite was a product of the Senate Intel Committee which isn't run by democrats...it's bi-partisan. From what I've read it pretty much aligns with the independent review from a year ago.

It doesn't appear to establish anything new. It's been known for some time that participants in the attack had some level of linkage to groups claiming to be al Qaeda in north Africa, but there's still no evidence of material involvement by those groups or involvement by core alQaeda in Pakistan.

Anyone can raise a black flag and claim to be alQaeda.

Our presidential front runner, Mrs Clinton, said during the hearings "what difference does it make" who was responsible. HOW ABOUT THIS...the difference is, the truth tells us accurately, who we need to go after to seek justice. That means nothing to the woman who was in charge of the department that lost 4 of its employees?

To Paul's response...she said those responsible would come out in the investigation but the priority should be on the initial actions necessary to protect out people. Funny, Jim never posts the entire remarks...

-spence

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

"The ties to al Qaeda were fabricated by a corrupt journalist to sell a story"

Interesting. The US Senate, which last time I checked was run by the Democrats, issued a report saying definitively that there were ties to Al Queda.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014...nghazi-report/

Our presidential front runner, Mrs Clinton, said during the hearings "what difference does it make" who was responsible. HOW ABOUT THIS...the difference is, the truth tells us accurately, who we need to go after to seek justice. That means nothing to the woman who was in charge of the department that lost 4 of its employees?

I don't get the liberal willingness to let politicians get away with absolutely anything, especially if their name is Kennedy or Clinton. I truly do not get it.

jim you quoted fox, how dare you....how about CNN?
Spence, once again you are totally WRONG a

CNN) -- The deadly attack on the U.S. diplomatic compound in Benghazi, Libya, was "likely preventable" based on known security shortfalls and prior warnings that the security situation there was deteriorating, the majority of the Senate Intelligence Committee concluded in a report released on Wednesday.Separately, the findings also noted what the FBI had told the panel -- that 15 people cooperating with its investigation had been killed in Benghazi, undercutting the investigation. It was not clear if the killings were related to the probe.

Moreover, it said that people linked with various al Qaeda-related groups in North Africa and elsewhere participated in the September 11, 2012, attack, but investigators haven't been able to determine whether any one group was in command.


http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/15/politi...html?hpt=hp_t2

carry on - and BTW, you people are all insane.

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by spence

You guys are funny. Here's Christie in a pickle and you just can't help but make it about Obama.

-spence

Christie's guilt is still unproven, and again if he is guilty I will be the first to say he
should face the consequences.
I will say this for him, he was willing to face it head on, not claiming he read it in the press, LOL, and he faced the charges in front of the press answering every question for an hour and a half including apologizing profusely.

I doubt the Rose Garden has been open for that much questioning or answering time about the many scandals in the last 5 years.

[Nebe]

Lmao!!
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[Nebe]

Pinkies up spence!
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[Nebe]

Scott. Here is your facts. Old news....

http://www.theeverlastinggopstoppers...ication-video/
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