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When will we be judged not by the color of our skin, but by the content of our character, or additioanlly by the quality of our work.
Spence will soon tell me I am a Limbaugh follower, although I have never heard the man speak. Remember when McCain's advisor said American's are whiners? I wonder what the noise will be around President Obama's advisor..........crickets.......
While I agree that race has no place in how a stimulus plan is executed, I think the video commentary has some of that tasty Fox News-esque spin.
"Conspiring to FORCE SOCIAL ENGINEERING and WEALTH DISTRIBUTION"
This is suppose to be the punctuated point of the video when really it's the same collection of buzzwords the conservatives have been tirelessly using since the early days of the campaign. Also "Conspiring" implies they're trying to hoodwink the American people - CSPAN is probably not the best place to develop a conspiracy.
With regard to stimulus plans in general, they're a joke. A quick, feel-good, 'fix' that really has no long term benefits. And this goes for the Bush plan and now Obama's. A few hundred bucks isn't going to change that people are without jobs, or laid-off and in a new job making significantly less money. All that money will do is increase the US deficit and take money away from other areas that would actually be useful to the American people and the economy.
I only posted that clip becasue it was the only view of his comments I could find. I ignore the commentary, but the language itself is very distrubing. If this was a republican that said it, it would be headline news.
Although it was not the main cause, we cannot ignore that one of the things that got us into this mess was giving $ to those that can't afford it. I'd hate to think we give jobs away to those not qualified OR pay additional money to train those not qualified. This is not a charity.........or is it?
Spence will soon tell me I am a Limbaugh follower, although I have never heard the man speak. Remember when McCain's advisor said American's are whiners? I wonder what the noise will be around President Obama's advisor..........crickets.......
Robert Reich is one of about two dozen economic advisors on Obama's team. This video tried to make it look like he's the only one, which is deceptive.
Obama's economic team is actually quite diverse, and I'd note that his pick for the Treas. Sec. - someone who actually implements policy - (Geithner) appears to be quite the darling of many Senate Republicans as a supremely qualified and non-partisan selection.
Reich is a big liberal, Rangle is a big liberal...big deal. They are only two people and don't alone set policy!
So my analysis of this thread is that you're using a misleading video to prove a point already contradicted by observable facts.
Robert Reich is one of about two dozen economic advisors on Obama's team. This video tried to make it look like he's the only one, which is deceptive.
Obama's economic team is actually quite diverse, and I'd note that his pick for the Treas. Sec. - someone who actually implements policy - (Geithner) appears to be quite the darling of many Senate Republicans as a supremely qualified and non-partisan selection.
Reich is a big liberal, Rangle is a big liberal...big deal. They are only two people and don't alone set policy!
So my analysis of this thread is that you're using a misleading video to prove a point already contradicted by observable facts.
-spence
one of Obamas advisors made a blatant racist comment and your response is "so what"
one of Obamas advisors made a blatant racist comment and your response is "so what"
Reich is a pretty smart guy and I'm sure his brian is stuffed full of demographic statistics for just about every segment of the population both living and dead.
In the context of the discussion he came off to me as an academic citing a legend on a chart in his head. Percentage of workers in skilled labor by race, or something like that...
Does Reich have a history of bigoted comments? I'm not aware of any.
I'm afraid I don't see how your assertion that he made a blatantly racist comment is supported by the facts presented in that video.
Reich is a pretty smart guy and I'm sure his brian is stuffed full of demographic statistics for just about every segment of the population both living and dead.
In the context of the discussion he came off to me as an academic citing a legend on a chart in his head. Percentage of workers in skilled labor by race, or something like that...
Does Reich have a history of bigoted comments? I'm not aware of any.
I'm afraid I don't see how your assertion that he made a blatantly racist comment is supported by the facts presented in that video.
-spence
Let's say he said" would go to white construction workers" would that be racist?
I think the color of your skin has no place in any discussion. In a truly color blind society, it has no bearing pro or con.
Let's say he said" would go to white construction workers" would that be racist?
No, you can't take his statement out of context just so you can wave the hypocrite flag.
Given Reich's profession and the context of the discussion it's quite reasonable to assume he was citing a statistic. We do not live in a color blind society and the government does measure metrics based on race at the very least to understand the distribution and consumption of government services.
60 years ago we still had segregated schools you know.
Robert Reich is one of about two dozen economic advisors on Obama's team. This video tried to make it look like he's the only one, which is deceptive.
Obama's economic team is actually quite diverse, and I'd note that his pick for the Treas. Sec. - someone who actually implements policy - (Geithner) appears to be quite the darling of many Senate Republicans as a supremely qualified and non-partisan selection.
Reich is a big liberal, Rangle is a big liberal...big deal. They are only two people and don't alone set policy!
So my analysis of this thread is that you're using a misleading video to prove a point already contradicted by observable facts.
-spence
Well it does show the direction his economic team is heading and they way they are thinking. The money will not be used to stimulate the economy it will be used to redistribute wealth. That's not an economic plan it's socialism.
Well it does show the direction his economic team is heading and they way they are thinking. The money will not be used to stimulate the economy it will be used to redistribute wealth. That's not an economic plan it's socialism.
Unfortunately, that's extremely false. Obama has selected quite a diverse crowd. Even threw you right-wingers a bone with Gates.
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Well it does show the direction his economic team is heading and they way they are thinking. The money will not be used to stimulate the economy it will be used to redistribute wealth. That's not an economic plan it's socialism.
Have to agree with JohnnyD on this one.
Besides, we do have a serious infrastructure problem in this country. Even if tax revenues did go towards civil projects, everybody benefits in the end, and the rich benefit more as they can exploit the improved infrastructure as it makes trade and business easier.
I don't think this could be reasonably called redistribution of wealth.
Glad to see the "stimulus" word in this thread.Last years' "freebie"...100% taxable.I was lead to believe this would be a true freebie by W.It ain't,must be claimed.SOB goddammit!
The new admin can keep my money and not give it back to me just so that I can repay it the following year on my return.
Let that idiot Sharpton and his worshipers keep it.What the government gives shall be taken away(later).Welfare and socialism is alive and well here.
Glad to see the "stimulus" word in this thread.Last years' "freebie"...100% taxable.I was lead to believe this would be a true freebie by W.It ain't,must be claimed.SOB goddammit!
The new admin can keep my money and not give it back to me just so that I can repay it the following year on my return.
Let that idiot Sharpton and his worshipers keep it.What the government gives shall be taken away(later).Welfare and socialism is alive and well here.
I said it had to be claimed. It is going to cost you about 35 % of the entire check.
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But if there aren’t enough skilled professionals to do the jobs involving new technologies, the stimulus will just increase the wages of the professionals who already have the right skills rather than generate many new jobs in these fields. And if construction jobs go mainly to white males who already dominate the construction trades, many people who need jobs the most — women, minorities, and the poor and long-term unemployed — will be shut out.
What to do? There’s no easy solution to either dilemma…
People can be trained relatively quickly for these sorts of jobs, as well as many infrastructure j0bs generated by the stimulus — installing new pipes for water and sewage systems, repairing and upgrading equipment, basic construction — but contractors have to be nudged both to provide the training and to do the hiring.
I’d suggest that all contracts entered into with stimulus funds require contractors to provide at least 20 percent of jobs to the long-term unemployed and to people with incomes at or below 200 percent of the federal poverty level. And at least 2 percent of project funds should be allocated to such training. In addition, advantage should be taken of buildings trades apprenticeships — wich must be fully available to women and minorities.
So I guess I missed that this ecomnomic dilema we are in is due to a lack of unskilled workers. That WAS NOT a cause of this problem.50% of my team was layed off a month ago, very talented, educated, hard working people. SO our stimulus $ should go to train people?
This current economy is putting BILLIONS ion he hands of democrat administration and democrat congress. They are drooling at the opportunity to throw BILLIONS at the people that put them in power, NOT the people that keep this country moving.
Treating people differently due the color of their skin IS RACISM!
QUOTE - And if construction jobs go mainly to white males who already dominate the construction trades, many people who need jobs the most — women, minorities, and the poor and long-term unemployed — will be shut out.
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