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Mitt Romney has a slogan to "keep America American". MSNBC claims that is a Klan slogan. Turns out that's factually incorrect, and beyond that, any rational person knows that whatever you think of Romney's politics, he's no racist.
That's your response? Based on your usual insanity every time I box you into a corner, I assumed you'd just deny that anyone at MSNBC said that...that's what you usually do, you deny what you posted 10 seconds ago.
Spence, what difference does it make how often I watch that train-wreck of a network? Please tell us all why that's relevent?
What's relevent is that when conservatives say similar things, like Don Imus, they get fired. You and your liberal ilk get a pass. WHat's relevent is that, instead of telling its audience about the pros and cons of Romney's ideas (and YOU WERE THE ONE who said liberals in the media like to challenge their audience, so the timing here is delicious), they try to dismiss him as a Klan sympathizer.
Meanwhile, the only Klan sympathizer in Washington DC was Senator Strom Thurmond (D-WV), who was an adnitted former member of the Klan. MSNBC never held him accountable for that. But Romney is the scary Klansman?? Not Strom Thurmond, who as president pro tempe of the Senate, was 5th in line for succession to the office of president??
Spence, you and your ilk have no shame, and your hypocrisy knows no bounds. You literally have no shame, and you are pathetic.
That's what matters. Not how often I watch those hate-mongers.
I actually watch a lot of both networks...I used to watch Bill O every night until he got really boring.
-spence
How can you say you watched "every night", and then claim that Alan Colmes isn't on the network?
Either you are lying, or you cannot accept what's in front of your face unless it supports your agenda. There simply isn't a 3rd alternative, so you tell me which it is.
How can you say you watched "every night", and then claim that Alan Colmes isn't on the network?
Either you are lying, or you cannot accept what's in front of your face unless it supports your agenda. There simply isn't a 3rd alternative, so you tell me which it is.
Spence, you're making this too easy for me.
My understanding was his relationship with FOX was for a radio show. I've not seen him on Bill O'Riley much, usually Bill has the babes on.
What's your point though? That a few token lefties makes the network have integrity?
My understanding was his relationship with FOX was for a radio show. I've not seen him on Bill O'Riley much, usually Bill has the babes on.
What's your point though? That a few token lefties makes the network have integrity?
-spence
I already told you my point, but I'll repeat it...It's not possible for an honest, thinking person to (1) watch O'Reilly every night, and (2) claim that Alan Colmes is no longer on Foxnews. Colmes has a regular segment on the O'Reilly factor.
Again, you are either a liar, or someone who cannot process what is taking place in front of his face (that is, unles it supports your agenda).
My understanding was his relationship with FOX was for a radio show. I've not seen him on Bill O'Riley much, usually Bill has the babes on.
What's your point though? That a few token lefties makes the network have integrity?
-spence
"Token" lefties? I already told you, Juan Williams has hosted the O'Reilly factor on many occasions. That's the flagship show on the hottest cable news network. That means Juan Williams is no "token". But despite that irefutable fact, you dismiss him as a "token". That's why I say you're crazy. If an irrefutable fact contradicts your agenda, you have to find a way to dismiss it. Your brain cannot allow for the possibility that Foxnews is the only network that has rational people present both sides. There are smart liberals on O'Reilly every single night. That doesn't happen on MSNBC.
There are smart liberals on O'Reilly every single night. That doesn't happen on MSNBC.
I see Michael Steele on MSNBC almost nightly when I flip through the cable news channels. Maybe he doesn't qualify as a smart conservative, I'll leave that for you guys to judge....
Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
I actually watch a lot of both networks...I used to watch Bill O every night until he got really boring.
-spence
Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
Can I ask a question that is outside of the media discussion?
Was 'Keep America American' actually a prominent Klan slogan?
Even if it was, the reporter was wrong, as Mitt is clearly not channeling his inner Klansman, BUT if it was used in that conitation, maybe Mitt's slogan writers should do some more research, rather than have to backtrack and say he meant 'Keep America, America'
Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
Can I ask a question that is outside of the media discussion?
Was 'Keep America American' actually a prominent Klan slogan?
Even if it was, the reporter was wrong, as Mitt is clearly not channeling his inner Klansman, BUT if it was used in that conitation, maybe Mitt's slogan writers should do some more research, rather than have to backtrack and say he meant 'Keep America, America'
Yes, it was used by the Klan and other hate groups in the early part of the last century.
Yes, it was used by the Klan and other hate groups in the early part of the last century.
-spence
So, the MSNBSocialist reporter was wrong to call Romney a racist (agree, he was wrong), but not wrong that it was a KKK slogan?
changes the story abit, but still doesn't make Mitt a racist.
Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
So, the MSNBSocialist reporter was wrong to call Romney a racist (agree, he was wrong), but not wrong that it was a KKK slogan?
changes the story abit, but still doesn't make Mitt a racist.
He didn't call Romney a racist....he just brought up the story that the slogan was used by the KKK......which could be insinuating that he's a racist.....but they never actually called him that.
I mean its not a leap to think that when reading the story...
"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
He didn't call Romney a racist....he just brought up the story that the slogan was used by the KKK......which could be insinuating that he's a racist.....but they never actually called him that.
I mean its not a leap to think that when reading the story...
No, but it is irresponsible journalism and they should apologize...oops, looks like they already did.
Agree.
It makes Mitt's slogan writer look pretty stupid though. I figured googling a new slogan was like step 1 or 2 when vetting it....
Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
Agree.
It makes Mitt's slogan writer look pretty stupid though. I figured googling a new slogan was like step 1 or 2 when vetting it....
Bry, Romney made a COMMENT, its not his slogan. For the klan, it was a slogan from the 1920s.
How ridiculous is that?
For MSNBC, it was a f'in stretch by any means and one made for the sole intent of disparaging romney. no other reason. they apologized, time to move on. But dont freaking tell me the media is not biased
Bry, Romney made a COMMENT, its not his slogan. For the klan, it was a slogan from the 1920s.
How ridiculous is that?
For MSNBC, it was a f'in stretch by any means and one made for the sole intent of disparaging romney. no other reason. they apologized, time to move on. But dont freaking tell me the media is not biased
I see... it was a comment, no a slogan... you don't think Mitt vet's that stuff in house?
I'm mainly playing devils advocate. clearly Romney is not a racist, and not one person here is claiming MSNBC doesnt lean way left w/ the exception of 1 host and a few commentators.
Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
Bry, Romney made a COMMENT, its not his slogan. For the klan, it was a slogan from the 1920s.
How ridiculous is that?
For the record, the Original post called it a slogan.
I followed using that term....
Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
Somebody should stop those Mormons from going door-to-door pushing their cult on people. I'm sick of it.
Two came to my door the other day and I said "Lady, we're Irish Catholics. We have a history of starving to death before converting. Do you think reading that little booklet is going to do it?"