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Swimmer · 04-08-2009, 08:40 PM

Hopefully the socialist apologist from the south side Chicago Ayers school, will come home before he embrasses the chit out of the country anymore than he has allready. All over Europe he is giving speeches apologizing for our arrogance. Europe from the west coast of France all the way to the pacific would be called Russia if it wasn't for millions of our soldiers, and O'Bama is appologizing. He can't have any Irish in him or he wouldn't being bowing or appologizing to anyone. In 1945, we should have made France and England states. Like Gingrich said tonight, the only thing we asked for in 1945 was space enough on there soil to bury our dead. O'Bama is a dreadful mistake.

Raider Ronnie · 04-08-2009, 08:52 PM

AMEN !

RIJIMMY · 04-09-2009, 08:03 AM

I just saw the whole "bow" thing. Thats pretty lame. This country BOWS for no one.
They should be bowing to us since we built there country for them

EarnedStripes44 · 04-09-2009, 10:16 AM

Whats the harm in humility?

I was told, that you catch more flies with honey, than you do with salt.

striperman36 · 04-09-2009, 10:32 AM

Times have changed, we f----ed the global financial system. Oops our bad, please help.

RIJIMMY · 04-09-2009, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by EarnedStripes44

Whats the harm in humility?

I was told, that you catch more flies with honey, than you do with salt.

wow, thats sad. Humility to a monarch that opresses his people. I guess the Queen of England did not warrant the humility. Her boys only died alongside ours in the wash of the Normandy shores and African desserts.

EarnedStripes44 · 04-09-2009, 11:12 AM

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wow, thats sad. Humility to a monarch that opresses his people. I guess the Queen of England did not warrant the humility.

I dont get it. We have had a very chummy relationship with Saudi Arabia since our geologist discovered oil there eighty years ago. Billions, if not trillions, exhanged. Lots of Texas oilmen got rich off capital investments in Saudi Arabia and vice versa with regard to Financial services in this country. And now were supposed to treat their King (who is no ceremonial figure head like the Queen of England) like some third world chump. Its the epicenter of islam, which, by the way, places considerable emphasis on humility. Hubris is not heralded as a virtue.

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Her boys only died alongside ours in the wash of the Normandy shores and African desserts.

Well thats is certainly true, they were killed by germans. So what would you have him do to Angela Merkel...put her in the headlock till she taps out.

Swimmer · 04-10-2009, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by EarnedStripes44

Whats the harm in humility?

I was told, that you catch more flies with honey, than you do with salt.

You don't show humility to someone who barely tolerates us. The king shouldn't bow to O'Bama or the reverse.

RIJIMMY · 04-09-2009, 11:14 AM

third world chump?
NO PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES HAS EVER BOWED TO ROYALTY EVER!

Im not saying blow the guy off, but a bow is a symbol of servitude, not respect. Who gives a $hit what Mulsims place humitlty as? You libs will be the first one crying separation of church and state if the government does ANYTHING based on religion, this is different? WTF

JohnnyD · 04-09-2009, 11:35 AM

Right. Because when an American is in the room, he should be the most respected person regardless of who's country it is.

This prideful arrogance promoted by Bush is why the world hates Americans. Time for you guys to get off your pedestal and learn some humility.

And this statement is false:

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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

third world chump?
NO PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES HAS EVER BOWED TO ROYALTY EVER!

as US Presidents have bowed to the British Royalty before.

RIJIMMY · 04-09-2009, 11:39 AM

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And this statement is false:

as US Presidents have bowed to the British Royalty before.

Prove it. And dont show me the picture fo Bush lowering his head while a medal is placed around his neck.
The pride and arrogance is not Bush, it has been in place for ALL Presidents. Its called holding a positon of authority.

Cool Beans · 04-09-2009, 11:54 AM

Damn it,, Bush did bow to the Saudi King, I looked it up, trying to prove that JohnnyD was full of crap, but in this case he is correct.

had you going there huh, thought I slipped and hit my head and became a liberal.... nope.

read on,

Bush didn't bow as in servitude, he is lowering his head to receive a medal from the Saudi King.
Here's the actual video, that is so often taken out of context to say Bush bowed to him. OUR PRESIDENT SHOULD NOT BOW TO ANYONE.
http://imagesource.cnn.com/imagesour...480&height=324

spence · 04-09-2009, 11:54 AM

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The pride and arrogance is not Bush, it has been in place for ALL Presidents. Its called holding a positon of authority.

This is perhaps the dumbest thing ever said.

As for this thread. I've listed to most of Obama's recent speeches and don't have any issue with the message.

He's not running around begging for forgiveness. He is, quite artfully, stating that you disliked Bush, not America, and that you have responsibility of your own.

Much of what he's said has been said by US Presidents before, including Ronald Reagan.

Some of you are sounding more and more like the wingnut version of Moveon.org every day.

-spence

Swimmer · 04-10-2009, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by spence

He's not running around begging for forgiveness. He is, quite artfully, stating that you disliked Bush, not America, and that you have responsibility of your own.-spence

I wonder how much repsect all the other world leaders have for O'Bama now that they listened to him in so many eloquent speeches throw his predecessor under the bus in all those speeches. You wouldn't hear Sarkozy do that, or Blair, or any of thier other contemporaries. After listening to O'Bama throw Bush under the bus I doubt any of the other heads of state respect him any more that they respected Bush. Bush might have been arrogant, but O'Bama is childish and naive. Look at North Korea, O'Bama is just hours away from giving a speech about weapons and N. Korea fires off the big missile. Look at those pirates holding the boat captain.

spence · 04-11-2009, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Swimmer

Look at those pirates holding the boat captain.

Have you lost your mind?

-spence

JohnnyD · 04-11-2009, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Swimmer

Bush might have been arrogant, but O'Bama is childish and naive.

These are two descriptions of Obama thrown around a lot by Conservatives, yet they fail to support it or support it with vague detail. Could you please support how he's "childish and naive"?

Keep in mind, according to Webster:

childish
1: of, relating to, or befitting a child or childhood
2: marked by or suggestive of immaturity and lack of poise

naive
1: marked by unaffected simplicity : artless , ingenuous
2: deficient in worldly wisdom or informed judgment

Let's leave vague complaints out. I'm curious for concrete examples of him being childish and naive.

RIJIMMY · 04-09-2009, 02:05 PM

and your take on the president bowing is?

justplugit · 04-09-2009, 09:27 PM

Whitehouse said he didn't bow.

Go figga.

spence · 04-10-2009, 05:37 AM

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and your take on the president bowing is?

Seems like a silly slip up, it didn't look at all like he was attempting to bow out of deference.

Besides, this is 2009, not the middle ages.

-spence

PaulS · 04-10-2009, 06:46 AM

I gotta agree w/everyone here against showing any respect to foreigners. We're the US dammit and if you don't like it, tough luck - we don't need your stinkin oil or help with anything

buckman · 04-10-2009, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by spence

Seems like a silly slip up,
-spence

At least your consistant Spence

RIROCKHOUND · 04-10-2009, 07:00 AM

http://www.colbertnation.com/home
watch 'threat down - Robert Gates' et al..

4min 38sec in.

RIROCKHOUND · 04-11-2009, 11:26 AM

I have a question.
Someone point out to me what any of this has done to negatively impact foreign policy. Do you really believe the rest of the world now thinks the USA is a big old pussy and we are fair game. Seriously, if you believe that suddenly we are less safe today than a week ago, I'd like to know why you feel that way.

"The new admininstration thinks that they can make a perfect world through words and legislation and it wont happen." So, again, he didn't suddenly disband the army, send everyone home and give them flowers. I prefer words over bombs and invasions under false pretenses.

"You don't show humility to someone who barely tolerates us. The king shouldn't bow to O'Bama or the reverse."
Nope, you hold his hand, kiss him on the cheek and buy a %$%$%$%$load of oil from him...

The Somalian pirate issue is not even remotely relevant, as they've been doing this for years, and it is only 'news' because it involved Americans for a change, and not some poor Filipino or Indonesian sailors.

TheSpecialist · 04-12-2009, 04:44 PM

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I will not stop until this man-made disaster is resolved

This statement says it all, this guy is a %$%$%$%$ing p%&Y^y. It is an act of terrorism, the crew was terrified, the captain is terrified, the us public is
terrified, the world is terrified.

JohnnyD · 04-12-2009, 06:00 PM

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This statement says it all, this guy is a %$%$%$%$ing p%&Y^y. It is an act of terrorism, the crew was terrified, the captain is terrified, the us public is
terrified, the world is terrified.

And now they're dead. In the end, the authorization to shoot-to-kill if necessary had to be provided by that "%$%$%$%$ing p%&Y^y" you mentioned.

That "%$%$%$%$ing p%&Y^y" has also authorized a number of bombings of terrorist camps in Pakistan.

Also, piracy is not the same as terrorism.

scottw · 04-13-2009, 01:05 AM

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Also, piracy is not the same as terrorism.

this is correct, pirates wear eyepatches, have parrots on their shoulders and some have peg legs and/or hooks where their hands once were....

[QUOTE=Spence]
Actually I was making fun of you.

-spence

that's why I love you Spence Alinsky, you have an incredible sense of humor...

Cpt. Crunch · 04-11-2009, 09:07 PM

Question--why should you always take two Republicans fishing with you?

If you take only one, he'll smoke all your pot, but if you take two, they won't smoke any.

Bronko · 04-12-2009, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Cpt. Crunch

Question--why should you always take two Republicans fishing with you?

If you take only one, he'll smoke all your pot, but if you take two, they won't smoke any.

BSSB is funny.

JohnnyD · 04-13-2009, 11:24 AM

The ignorance of some that post here shines through as brightly as the sun on a warm day.

Looks like a new day means a new definition needed for the disillusioned:

Terrorism as defined by the US Federal Criminal Code:
... activities that involve violent… or life-threatening acts… appear to be intended (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping

Someone explain to me how the Pirates taking over ships for nothing more than profit is terrorism.

The Somalians are no different than bank robbers on steroids. They aren't trying to affect government policy or incite fear into the population. They are trying to extort money from companies.

They aren't terrorists, they're extortionists.

scottw · 04-13-2009, 11:31 AM

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The ignorance of some that post here shines through as brightly as the sun on a warm day.

"They are trying to extort money from companies
They aren't terrorists, they're extortionists.

"

So you are saying that Obama and the Democrats are actually Pirates? OK, I'll go along with that...