Jussie Smullett hoax

[Jim in CT]

Never heard of this poor guy before this hoax (assuming that's what it was), feel bad for the guy, probably a desperate cry for attention and sympathy.

ONCE AGAIN, the media and the far left (sorry for the redundancy there) saw an opportunity to smear the right, and jumped the gun before anything like due process took place.

HOW MANY TIMES do these morons have to end up with egg on their faces, before they just wait for investigations to take place? Duke lacrosse, hands up don't shoot, the Rolling Stone U-VA rape case, the Covington kids, now this.

This is a great opportunity for us to collectively take a deep breath, and start over. But it won't happen, Trump Derangement Syndrome is way too powerful.

Hope this guy doesn't commit suicide. Pathetic.

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All the coverage I saw of the incident was reported with a healthy bit of skepticism from the beginning. Seems like a poorly planned publicity stunt. You didn't know who the guy was and now you do. If it was a hoax he'll likely be a felon soon.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

All the coverage I saw of the incident was reported with a healthy bit of skepticism from the beginning. Seems like a poorly planned publicity stunt. You didn't know who the guy was and now you do. If it was a hoax he'll likely be a felon soon.

Kamela Harris and Corey Booker said it was a modern day lynching. Nancy Pelosi and Alexandra Cortez said it was a "racist, homophopbic" attack.

If that represents a "healthy bit of skepticism" to you, boy I hope I don't live long enough to see you feel that anyone actually rushed to judgment.

I don't doubt that he'll get what's coming to him (though he may enjoy prison). What about the 4 politicians I mentioned? Will they go on the air and apologize for fanning the flames of racial tensions?

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Kamela Harris and Corey Booker said it was a modern day lynching. Nancy Pelosi and Alexandra Cortez said it was a "racist, homophopbic" attack.

If that represents a "healthy bit of skepticism" to you, boy I hope I don't live long enough to see you feel that anyone actually rushed to judgment.

I don't doubt that he'll get what's coming to him (though he may enjoy prison). What about the 4 politicians I mentioned? Will they go on the air and apologize for fanning the flames of racial tensions?

If an attack like that happened what should people say about it?
Should the first reaction be maybe it didn't happen?
Why do they have to apologize for an honest statement about what they believe happened?

Maybe the guy who is so blind to white privilege and sees black and Latino unemployment went down as something special, "even though they are black I got them jobs, look at me, I'm special" should apologize.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

If an attack like that happened what should people say about it?
Should the first reaction be maybe it didn't happen?
Why do they have to apologize for an honest statement about what they believe happened?

Maybe the guy who is so blind to white privilege and sees black and Latino unemployment went down as something special, "even though they are black I got them jobs, look at me, I'm special" should apologize.

what people should say, is that because of tds. due process comes first. when the covington kids claimed they suffered racist attacks, they were still blamed. all about the narrative.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

what people should say, is that because of tds. due process comes first. when the covington kids claimed they suffered racist attacks, they were still blamed. all about the narrative.
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Might be applicable if any person was accused, was there any perpetrator identified, are you just claiming victim status again or what?
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Maybe the guy who is so blind to white privilege and sees black and Latino unemployment went down as something special, "even though they are black I got them jobs, look at me, I'm special" should apologize.

"Maybe the guy who is so blind to white privilege"

If white privilege was all that it's cracked up to be, why is honkey Liz Warren desperately trying to be Native American, and why is honkey Robert Francis (Beto) O'Roarke desperately trying to be Hispanic?


"sees black and Latino unemployment went down as something special"

I view lowest black unemployment ever recorded, as a good thing. You view it as nothing worth mentioning. You can't bring yourself to concede that it's a great thing, your deranged hatred won't allow you to celebrate something so great. I'm quite comfortable stating that my position is a whole lot less cuckoo than yours.

Take off the tin foil hat for two seconds.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

"Maybe the guy who is so blind to white privilege"

If white privilege was all that it's cracked up to be, why is honkey Liz Warren desperately trying to be Native American, and why is honkey Robert Francis (Beto) O'Roarke desperately trying to be Hispanic?


"sees black and Latino unemployment went down as something special"

I view lowest black unemployment ever recorded, as a good thing. You view it as nothing worth mentioning. You can't bring yourself to concede that it's a great thing, your deranged hatred won't allow you to celebrate something so great. I'm quite comfortable stating that my position is a whole lot less cuckoo than yours.

Take off the tin foil hat for two seconds.

It’s only right wing media obsessed with people’s racial heritage and supposed issues, day after day but with an inept and failing leader what would anyone expect?
Are you arguing for or against identity politics when you claim special status for black unemployment?
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT

If white privilege was all that it's cracked up to be, why is honkey Liz Warren desperately trying to be Native American, and why is honkey Robert Francis (Beto) O'Roarke desperately trying to be Hispanic?

I don't understand this rant. Who's desperate to be what again?

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

If an attack like that happened what should people say about it?
Should the first reaction be maybe it didn't happen?
Why do they have to apologize for an honest statement about what they believe happened?

There is this very critical word that the Press and Politicians must use in these cases: ALLEGED. To proclaim something as racially and incitement-to-violence loaded as this is as fact is the proverbial height of irresponsibility. You, the leftist media, Never Trumpers and Trump haters, excoriate Trump for saying things that you INTERPRET as racist, even if they actually aren't, and claim that they are words that offend and promote far right violence.

But here, for you, these are merely honest statements of belief. Ku Klux Klansmen and Nazis make honest statements of belief that those who made these unsubstantiated statements would brand as criminal, prejudiced, hate speech, and cause for imprisonment.

Maybe the guy who is so blind to white privilege and sees black and Latino unemployment went down as something special, "even though they are black I got them jobs, look at me, I'm special" should apologize.

Maybe all those who are blind to their own hypocrisy should apologize. But they won't. And what is this grand privilege that assumes those who supposedly have it are automatically, ipso facto, assumed guilty before proven innocent? And not apologized to when they are found innocent?

[Jim in CT]

What Kamela Harris said when the actor made his claim...

"This was an attempted modern day lynching. No one should have to fear for their life because of their sexuality or color of their skin. We must confront this hate."

What she said after the story fell apart...

"I’m not going to comment until I know the outcome of the investigation."

So, when the allegation is sympathetic to The Narrative, we can jump all over it and assume it's true. But when the allegation is contrary to The Narrative, we need to wait until all the facts are in.

To repeat, when the allegation smears conservatives, shoot first and don't even bother asking questions. When the allegation targets a liberal cause, refrain from comment.

That's leadership, boy. Not a syllable about the damage that might have been done by her jumping the gun. This is a corrupt skank who slept her way to the top.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

This is a corrupt skank who slept her way to the top.

That statement says far more about the person who made it than anyone else
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

That statement says far more about the person who made it than anyone else
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corrupt: took big $$ from labor unions while giving them favorable rulings, has a history of giving favorable rulings to cronies

slept her way to the top: had a long-time affair with the married mayor of San Francisco, who kept moving her into higher and higher positions.

But her past says more about me, than it does about her. Got it.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

corrupt: took big $$ from labor unions while giving them favorable rulings, has a history of giving favorable rulings to cronies
Not quite as bad as your hero
https://www.newsweek.com/2019/01/18/...b-1285771.html

slept her way to the top: had a long-time affair with the married mayor of San Francisco, who kept moving her into higher and higher positions.

Any high achieving woman is accused of sleeping her way to the top.
You don't find high moral character important in Republicans though.

But her past says more about me, than it does about her. Got it.

Character is destiny

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Character is destiny

not all high achieving women are accused of sleeping their way to the top ( no one accused hilary of that, god knows), but harris is. willie brown admits it.
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT

This is a corrupt skank who slept her way to the top.

You might need to retake your sexism training again.

[Jim in CT]

Pete, from usatoday, which ain’t foxnews. while she was dating brown, he appointed her to jobs paying over $400k.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...er/2695143002/
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Pete, from usatoday, which ain’t foxnews. while she was dating brown, he appointed her to jobs paying over $400k.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...er/2695143002/
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Maybe you should read what you link
"I have also helped the careers of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Gov. Gavin Newsom, Sen. Dianne Feinstein and a host of other politicians," he added.

"The difference is that Harris is the only one who, after I helped her, sent word that I would be indicted if I 'so much as jaywalked' while she was D.A.," Brown wrote. "That’s politics for ya."

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Pete, from usatoday, which ain’t foxnews. while she was dating brown, he appointed her to jobs paying over $400k.

Why does any of this matter? Is there any evidence she was appointed to jobs over more qualified people? Her relationship wasn't hidden, you'd think people would be up in arms if there was an issue. 400k over 5 years isn't a lot of money in CA even back then. She seems to have built a very solid resume, she doesn't get to take any credit for her hard work?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Why does any of this matter? Is there any evidence she was appointed to jobs over more qualified people? Her relationship wasn't hidden, you'd think people would be up in arms if there was an issue. 400k over 5 years isn't a lot of money in CA even back then. She seems to have built a very solid resume, she doesn't get to take any credit for her hard work?

some people are offended by crony-ism, more so when the bedroom is involved.

"Her relationship wasn't hidden"

Pete posted an article denying there was an affair.

It's gross. Trump has done many things at least as gross, but it's gross.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

some people are offended by crony-ism, more so when the bedroom is involved.

"Her relationship wasn't hidden"

Pete posted an article denying there was an affair.

It's gross. Trump has done many things at least as gross, but it's gross.

What article was that?

You have a real reading comprehension problem.

Here is the first sentence of what I posted
"Kamala Harris and Willie Brown had a relationship in the mid 1990s."

You sound like you got passed over for a promotion by a woman and now you are a poster boy for Misogynist Magazine.

Look at the list of people you have hated and attacked

Clinton
Lynch
Pelosi
Feinstein
Warren
AOC
Harris

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

What article was that?

You have a real reading comprehension problem.

Here is the first sentence of what I posted
"Kamala Harris and Willie Brown had a relationship in the mid 1990s."

You sound like you got passed over for a promotion by a woman and now you are a poster boy for Misogynist Magazine.

Look at the list of people you have hated and attacked

Clinton
Lynch
Pelosi
Feinstein
Warren
AOC
Harris

The link you posted, said it wasn't an affair.

Add Trump to that list. But I attack him when it's accurate to do so.

And I love Cortez, I absolutely love her, hope she rises through the ranks for decades.

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Pete posted an article denying there was an affair.

It's gross. Trump has done many things at least as gross, but it's gross.

Sounds like Brown just had an open relationship.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

Sounds like Brown just had a quid pro quo relationship.

fixed it

were these government jobs she was getting?...isn't that essentially using tax payer money to pay for your sex? which is probably fine if you are a democrat.......

[Sea Dangles]

Ha
That’s funny
A new hero for the #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&s
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[Sea Dangles]

That’s what I am talking about PeteF. Put her on the ticket.
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[Pete F.]

I see you’re sitting in the low chair again.
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[Jim in CT]

Pete, your article said this..."However, the claim that Kamala Harris had "an affair" with Brown, implying not only that they had a relationship but that it was furtive and seedy, doesn't check out."

How the hell could the author know it wasn't seedy, was he in the bedroom with them?

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Pete, your article said this..."However, the claim that Kamala Harris had "an affair" with Brown, implying not only that they had a relationship but that it was furtive and seedy, doesn't check out."

How the hell could the author know it wasn't seedy, was he in the bedroom with them?

He had been separated for years.
I think David Pecker is looking fo reporters, you’d fit right in, Character is Destiny
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

He had been separated for years.
I think David Pecker is looking fo reporters, you’d fit right in, Character is Destiny
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he gave plum, lucrative positions to his lover.

after she had
no more use for grandpa, she said he was “an albatross around my neck.”. yes, it’s the classic
american love story. move over, romeo and juliet.
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