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[UserRemoved]

Will this be the "3am call".....

[spence]

You're just itching to make some really dumb Obama jabs huh?
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[UserRemoved]

NO Spence I'm asking a serious question. If I wanted to jab I would have said I think the guy is an idiot already. There's enough of that here.

Originally Posted by spence

You're just itching to make some really dumb Obama jabs huh?
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[UserRemoved]

The US has been asked for help. There's always been talk about him handling a "3am" telephone call which many don't feel he's ever had in office.

Is this the 3am phone call.....

Let's hear your input Spence.

[RIROCKHOUND]

Scott;
What should he do beyond monitoring the situation and sending ships and supplies from neighboring areas? The US has survival and search and rescue efforts over there already. update: 12 ships and millions of pounds of food and medical supplies, plus they have been helping to ferry Japanese rescue teams around.

Beyond blind dislike/trust of this administration, WHAT should they be doing? Fly over there and hold their hands? go over and fix the reactors himself?

I'd rather the administration take a wait and see on a lot of the current issues. One of the best things this administration has been to not rush into Lybia, when many on both sides were pushing for it....

give me a break. damned if he does, and damned if he doesnt....

[scottw]

[QUOTE=RIROCKHOUND;844673]
What should he do beyond monitoring the situation and sending ships and supplies from neighboring areas? WHAT should they be doing? Fly over there and hold their hands? go over and fix the reactors himself?

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actually, at trip to Rio would be really sweet right now.....

Obama Heads to Rio Sunday; Maximum Security Awaits
Mar. 14 2011 - 7:16 pm

[UserRemoved]

I SO wanted to post this earlier. I didn't want to get Spence more irritated

EPIC leadership

Can't wait to see how Spence spins this one. Probably some new trade agreement that they're going to sell 300,000,000 condoms to the people who live in Rio.

Ok now I'm poking the dragon

[QUOTE=scottw;844834]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

What should he do beyond monitoring the situation and sending ships and supplies from neighboring areas? WHAT should they be doing? Fly over there and hold their hands? go over and fix the reactors himself?

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actually, at trip to Rio would be really sweet right now.....

Obama Heads to Rio Sunday; Maximum Security Awaits
Mar. 14 2011 - 7:16 pm

[RIROCKHOUND]

Right... he should be over there in Japan with a hammer and a shovel helping out.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

Right... he should be over there in Japan with a hammer and a shovel helping out.

he'd break a fingernail for sure, that would be a National tragedy...probably be out of commission for 8 weeks...

[UserRemoved]

What do I think should be done? I think they need to assemble a panel of nuke guys with the military and come up with a best case solution to present to these people that could help them end this disaster.

I got to believe that a Hercules could start flying some Quints in there to start dropping the mother of all water streams in there to cool this. Even pumps, they said yesterday that 4 out of 5 pumps they used were out of commission.....I'm sure pumps aren't growing on trees over there right now...

But your right Brian damned if he does something or doesn't...

[RIROCKHOUND]

1. I would wager that we already have our nuke experts offering opinions.

2. Have they been asked to do that? If this was happening at Seabrook would you expect Japan, or France, Germeny, (or any other country with Nuke power) to just start 'helping' with out being asked? Or should it just be we're the USA and we're here to help?

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

1. I would wager that we already have our nuke experts offering opinions.

2. Have they been asked to do that? If this was happening at Seabrook would you expect Japan, or France, Germeny, (or any other country with Nuke power) to just start 'helping' with out being asked? Or should it just be we're the USA and we're here to help?

They're a major ally and we should be doing all we can to help. we step in to help every dirt country where half the people want to see us dead. Maybe we are, I dont know. But I do feel that there seems to be less of a cry to help Japan than there was with Indonesia or Haiti. Maybe its just perception. Lets see if there are a bunch of relief concerts or hollywood lib do-gooders heading over there. That will tell me a lot. I hope so. I feel this is a time when we should step in, this is the good fight we should be fighting. Lets help those that deserve it.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Saltys

What do I think should be done? I think they need to assemble a panel of nuke guys with the military and come up with a best case solution to present to these people that could help them end this disaster.
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You mean like this....

US experts to help battle Japan's nuclear crisis

Mar 15 11:27 PM US/Eastern

Eight experts from the US Nuclear Regulatory Commission were to arrive Wednesday to help Japan battle its nuclear crisis, the foreign ministry said.
It said they would provide technical advice on managing the situation at the Fukushima No 1 atomic power plant 250 kilometres (155 miles) northeast of Tokyo.

A fresh fire broke out at the plant early Wednesday, compounding the emergency. It went out of its own accord later in the morning.

"The government of Japan will cooperate closely with these experts as it makes utmost efforts to solve the problems" at the plant, the ministry said in a statement.

Washington, a close ally of Tokyo, earlier sent a naval task force led by the aircraft carrier USS Ronald Reagan to assist in relief after last Friday's devastating earthquake and tsunami.

The disasters knocked out cooling systems at the plant, causing fuel rods to overheat.

[UserRemoved]

1. maybe I dunno.

2. I personally wouldn't sit and watch on the sidelines...esp if it has a serious effect on my country.

I'd be there offering regardless. Maybe he has.

I'm still interested in hearing though if people think this will be "the call" that everyone has previously said has never happened.

[UserRemoved]

Brian btw I had a nice conversation with your buddy at the show the other day. Don't remember his name now but nice guy.

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by Saltys

Brian btw I had a nice conversation with your buddy at the show the other day. Don't remember his name now but nice guy.

Someone from S-B? Did they say how they knew me? No one mentioned talking to some ugly bald guy at the show....

Jimmy: on top of what they (Administration) are doing now, what else would you guys like to see? Do you really think that this is it? hands washed, good luck Japan, see you when you recover? This is going to be a grind.

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

S
Jimmy: on top of what they (Administration) are doing now, what else would you guys like to see? Do you really think that this is it? hands washed, good luck Japan, see you when you recover? This is going to be a grind.

I'd like to see a full court press. Tripping over ourselves trying to help Japan. Maybe we are, so I'm not being critical.
I think the US will be a partner in their recovery.

[RIJIMMY]

this is good
United States

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-- White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said U.S. officials "stand ready to assist the Japanese ... in any way that we can."

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-- The U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) is coordinating the overall American response. The United States is also sending experts from the Department of Energy and the Nuclear Regulatory Commission to offer technical assistance to the Japanese government.

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-- Eight U.S. Navy ships are now at work off the Japanese coast, with five more on the way in coming days and weeks, Pentagon spokesman Col. David Lapan said.

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-- Two search-and-rescue teams from the United States are working in the hard-hit coastal city of Ofunato, which was severely damaged in the quake.

[UserRemoved]

I don't remember except he said he knew you and was going to hook up with you. Talked to too many people this weekend.

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by Saltys

I don't remember except he said he knew you and was going to hook up with you.

Bryan's next question - "gee, was he cute?"

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

Bryan's next question - "gee, was he cute?"

No, rich. I'm a whore.

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

No, rich. I'm a whore.

best comeback ever.

[UserRemoved]

'Military flying in US Navy pumping equipment in a last ditch effort to cool those rods in the nuke plant. Flying out of Yokota Air Base. Wish us luck!'

[spence]

This isn't a 3am call...while this is an epic disaster the simple fact that it's "over there" changes the game dramatically for Obama. The US will likely see global economic impact but I'm not sure this will be dramatic.

And it also seems like we're doing about all we can. This isn't one of those situations where you can just throw resources at a problem. It's quite possible that doing the wrong thing could be worse than doing nothing. It does sound like we've sent a lot of expertise already.

Additionally, Japan is a sovereign nation after all...

Let's just hope the remaining 50 can work some magic, from what I hear they're getting a lot of radiation and probably won't be around much longer. My heart goes out to them...

-spence

[Raven]

i was just watching a report on the news service about falsified
reports on the reactors cooling systems for the last decade.

This goes a long way to show why there is such
a big problem to correct.... when the sh1t hits the fan

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by Raven

i was just watching a report on the news service about falsified
reports on the reactors cooling systems for the last decade.

Yup, if Tepco is guilty of many violations and not informing the public
in Japan, where the people are very fastidious in what they do,
I wonder what safety violations have occurred in our country.

The new generation reactors are close to zero fallibility. Time to
rebuild our generators built in the 60's and 70's and build more to the new specs.
Keep them away from faults like where Indian Point was built.

[UserRemoved]

damn straight

[UserRemoved]

FLIGHT SUIT? Didn't you know he only needs to go in the closet and pull out his cape?

Kick his dog I love it

HOW is he going to find out his secret information now...the Japanese have blacked out around the reactor MAKES SENSE HUH>>>>>>

U.S. radiation experts try to decipher reports from Japan - USATODAY.com

U.S. radiation experts try to decipher reports from Japan - USATODAY.com

[UserRemoved]

Screw the dog I'm goin straight for the dragon

See you guys in a few days. Off to Somerset. If I don't die from radiation sickness first.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Or maybe like this.....

Yuma Marines expected to arrive in Japan within next several days
March 15, 2011 4:59 PM

BY JAMES GILBERT - SUN STAFF WRITER

Marines and sailors from the 31st Marine Expeditionary Unit, which includes a squadron of Marines from Marine Corps Air Station Yuma, continue to move toward Japan to take part in humanitarian assistance operations taking place throughout the country.

The 2,200 Marines and sailors are expected to be off the coast of mainland Japan within the next several days. Local Marines from Marine Attack Squadron 211 are currently attached to the 31st Marine Expeditionary Unit (MEU) aboard the USS Essex.

According to a news release issued by the USMC's Consolidated Public Affairs Office in Okinawa, Marines and sailors from the III Marine Expeditionary Force continue to provide support for foreign humanitarian assistance operations from Okinawa to mainland Japan.

The operation, known as Tomodachi, means “friends” in Japanese and was chosen by Japan.

On Tuesday, III Marine Expeditionary Force personnel and gear departed the Naha Military Port at 9 a.m. on the High Speed Vessel en route to mainland Japan. The HSV will deliver a Forward Arming and Refueling Point (FARP) for use in the assistance operations.

A FARP is a temporary facility normally located close to the area of operations that allows aircraft to conduct continuous operations without having to return to an established airport to obtain fuel. This capability enables helicopters to fly rescue and transport missions almost non-stop.

The news release also stated that the high speed vessels are also transporting additional supplies, communications equipment and personnel that will be used in the relief operations. The FARP and other supplies will arrive at Marine Corps Air Station Iwakuni for further transportation to the identified FARP location.

Two KC-130J cargo aircraft returned from Marine Corps Air Station Iwakuni to MCAS Futenma at 1:30 p.m. on Tuesday to pick up a Deployable Joint Command and Control (DJC2) system and transport it to Naval Air Station Atsugi.

The DJC2 system provides an integrated, rapidly deployable, modular Joint Command and Control system to support Joint Task Force command and control operations.

A third KC-130J cargo aircraft is scheduled to depart MCAS Futenma Tuesday evening with personnel from the maintenance detachment of Marine Aerial Refueler Transport Squadron 152, Marine Aircraft Group 36, 1st Marine Aircraft Wing, III MEF to MCAS Iwakuni to support the aircraft flying on mainland Japan during the assistance operations.

The location of MCAS Futenma and its close proximity to Marine units and supplies supporting the relief mission has proved critical to the III MEF disaster response effort.

Eight CH-46E transport helicopters of Marine Medium Helicopter Squadron 265, MAG-36, 1st MAW, III MEF normally located at MCAS Futenma are now positioned at NAS Atsugi and available to conduct relief operations. The mission of the Marine Corps rotary wing aircraft in support of relief operations is survey, recovery and humanitarian assistance support.

The news release stated that humanitarian assistance survey teams are in place and ready to begin assessing the damaged area and assisting the government of Japan with providing accurate information to disaster relief planners, both military and civilian.

The HASTs are capable of distributing supplies and providing basic medical care for those in immediate need of aid.